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that match sucked Also, I would love love love a heel Bryan vs. face Ryback feud.

I think knowing the outcome and looking back, all the move spamming and kickouts work well. The problem with that stuff is that it seems lame and too much in a match that isn't legitimately epic and important. Given the outcome, that match was legitimately epic and important.

Kevin Steen beating John Cena clean as a whistle on his "PPV" debut might be more improbable than Daniel Bryan main eventing Wrestlemania.

The rematch didn't have anywhere near the energy of the Casket match but I still liked it a lot, and would probably like it even more on rewatch not mentally comparing it to the casket match. I hope Mil goes on the smash through the roster. It seems the logical outcome in Fenix getting the medallions which some how give him an advantage to challenge Mil for the blow-off. I really hope this gets a second season, there's still tons of interesting things they can do. I really want a run for Aerostar in some top angles/feuds.

Is this a 2009 match that was put online by the promotion that ran it and shortly later taken down? Or am I thinking of something else? I know there was a great trios match in 2009 with a crazy line up like that that was online for a bit, by the promotion, then taken down.

Kind of funny that this is the first time ROH will ever have TV in the Philly or NYC market. I don't keep up with ROH's TV because I'm never too impressed by their iPPVs when they have them, but I'll start giving it a shot now.

Requests: Shane McMahon Nikki Bella

These teams have insane chemistry. That match was awesome, both teams are such good foils and I LOVED LOVED LOVED the finish. This feud should never end.

I liked the main event a lot -- really it was the only thing on the show I particularly liked. Still hurt by the very mild crowd, although it was cool how they were massively pro-BC the whole night but finally they booed when one of the Young Bucks broke up Strong's superplex spree.

The Liger tag I mean come on. I know Liger was just there last year but a legend like that should be a pretty big deal for a show like this, and matches with him should be worked like he's a big deal. But instead the heels got the heat on Liger, he never really got a run of offense to make up for it and the match ends after he stooges for Maria's gimmick. Felt like a throwaway TV tag match. I guess the atmosphere didn't help either, this crowd gave Liger a decent enough pop but hasn't been into much tonight. Commentary sucks as always. Hopefully some of the later matches are better, I'm pretty down on the show so far.

KUSHIDA match became a triple threat huh. Lame, would've preferred the singles. Crowd blows so far.

I might be remembering wrong but wasn't Nigel's heel turn in 2007 precipitated by fans booing him for not working while seriously injured -- short months after Benoit killed him family which was blamed largely on the toll his body and mind suffered working a hard style with accumulated injuries?

***** Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue, 6/9/95 Misawa/Kawada, 6/94 El Dandy vs. Angel Azteca, 6/90 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue, RWTL 96 Bryan Danielson vs. Morishima, 8/07 Lawler/Dundee, 6/83 El Dandy vs. Negro Casas, 7/92 El Hijo del Santo vs. Negro Casas, 97 Atlantis vs. Villano III, 2000 Hokuto/Kandori El Satanico vs. Gran Cochisse Sangre Chicana vs. MS1 Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Yoshihisa Yamamoto, 99 This is what I'm sure of right now. Maybe a few more I'll try to rewatch and see.

Best RAW since the night after last Summerslam unless I'm forgetting something. It's shocking the amount of obvious effort that's been put into it.

That was a hell of a debut and the crowd was super hot, so it's hard to be too negative, but WWE really passed up an easy chance to hit it out of the park. Starting the match during the break and the arm injury thing (assuming it wasn't real, it sure didn't seem it but I guess I'll allow the possibility) were two dumb decisions that made it less than it should've been. They should've had a straight forward competitive match, given them 20 minutes, told them to tear the house down and given Sami a run of nearfalls to the end. I still thought there was good stuff in the match and it was effective overall, just sort of glaringly lesser than it should've been. Still a legit great overall segment and this whole RAW has been shockingly good.

For overbooked clusterfucks it doesn't get much better than that trios final.

Though I wouldn't say it's more enjoyable, it is more of a habit. I've gone periods of a year+ watching hardly an wrestling over the past 7 years but even if I hadn't watched a minute of a show or a match in months I never really stopped browsing forums somewhat regularly.

I think a plain old WWE board would work best. WWE discussion would still dominate all other current discussion and there isn't so much thread making for current Japan, indies etc anyway. You would have the main wrestling board looking like it did before the megathread closed with maybe a couple extra threads on the current scene and then a WWE forum with lots of new threads that would have otherwise been unorganized conversation in the big megathread.

I knew you were referring to anarchist previously..sorry for being unclear. The problem with being publicly traded isn't that shareholders can vote, it's that having to report the financials every quarter is a killer. Say you want to turn Cena heel.....you know you'll take a short term hit on March, but also know that a year from now at Mania 32, Cena vs whoever could do HUGE business. The quarterly reports make the merch issue bigger than the long term vision. Add in that have to avoid controversial story lines, which is often the best way to get some eyes on the product and build to something. But when controversy literally costs you millions in stock drops, it's not worth it. So you end up with a milquetoast company. If the shareholders can't vote for any change then drop in stock prices isn't a problem. A falling share price doesn't hurt WWE's revenue if their ratings, attendance, merch sales are unaffected. The only reason a falling share price should be a concern is if it angers shareholders enough that they vote for a change in management, which isn't possible in WWE. Short-term drop in stock price is 100% a non-issue for WWE.

I don't get why crowds can be so much quieter in non-smart cities than smart cities. If you're a crowd full of "less-hardcore" fans, wouldn't you expect them to eat up the product more and react more how WWE expects them to? Rather than sit on their hands? In theory RAW crowds everywhere should be more enthusaistic. With their nationwide touring, to any town pretty much ever RAW is as special an occasion as the post-WM RAW. It should be a pretty big deal to go and the crowd should be enthused like the post-WM crowd is.

Rusev is over. The crowds react more strongly for him than almost anyone else. His segments got super reactions last year even against guys otherwise dead in the water like Big E and Jack Swagger. He gets booed by smart fans vs. Cena (even though they're still booing Cena -- it's Cena vs. a guy they don't want to cheer and STILL the angles and matches get very strong, enthusiastic crowd responses). I'm baffled that the value of Rusev's gimmick is questioned. The evidence in favor of it being a good act is overwhelming. And clearly PWO needs an anarchism forum.

Rewatched Brock/Roman and am debating whether or not it's the best Wrestlemania match ever.

Everything about that main event was out fucking standing. Beautiful.

ronda has more charisma than almost the entire roster combined though

the ronda thing is kinda cool but fuck this is so long