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Well, thanks. I'm both moody and lazy, which sometimes produces some bad stuff. Sorry about that when it happens.

Damn, I didn't see that one. Ah ah !

I'm an ECW fan, so I don't hate the style. I don't think Spike is good at much of anything but be thrown around like a rag doll, and even that gets old after a while because I can't stand the character so I have zero interest in what happens to him. Total one trick pony to me, his single matches consist of him trying to hit his one annoying spot (which wouldn't be as annoying if he had anything else worth a damn in his repertoire). I can't stand the gimmick, which is something I went through in great lenghts in the past already. Mediocre at best worker, annoying as fuck character. Balls is a decent worker ruined by his godawful gimmick of trying to permanently maim his opponents by hitting them with ridiculous unprotected chair shots to the head. I thought it was retarded back in the days, it's even worst today. It's too bad because of all these guys, he's probably the best worker if you take the gimmicks away. And yeah, like Tim Evans said in his review, Balls took insane bumps just for the sake of it, in a proto-Abyss (the stupidest "mainstream" worker ever in my book) way. As soon as you get the gimmicks away from Balls, I enjoy him much more (cf his matches with Matt Striker in WWECW for instance, which were fine and kinda fun too, final chairshot aside) I think the Duds were complete garbage worker, and I'm not talking about the style. Bubba is decent but was much more fun as a goofball fat guy bumper before teaming with D-Von, who's just plain bad. They got better in the WWE, and there I'm getting both redondant and irrelevant since I was supposed to tall about Balls & Spike. (and yeah, I know some people love Spike, including Dylan who has him in his top 10 ECW workers ever, we discussed that to no end a few years ago already. )

So, from the Yearbooks, they had at least four matches together. Since I had to go search for it myself, it's this one : http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/28425-dudley-boys-vs-spike-dudley-balls-mahoney-ecw-061799/?hl=%2Bballs+%2Bmahoney So that would be their first. Then you have the Heatwave match, on which I actually left a comment on last year. Then two more. It's after the Heatwave debacle that I gave up and fast forwarded through their stuff (I mean, I already had to watch the Duds vs Balls & Axl earlier in the year and I think in late 98 too after the feud with Dreamer & Sandman ended). So, no dice, I actually saw the "famous" Chicago TV match. So my opinion of this combination sucking comes straight out of it. It could have well have been from another one, but since it's the first of the series, yep, I watched it. Awful match. Terrible team.

3. Does a podcast. Taker should vanish forever. No speach. That's what would make him unique to the end.

When did Yatsu fell off a cliff already ? I like him even passed his prime (hell, I like him in SWS), but in 86 or so while teaming with Choshu, Yatsu looked like one of the best wrestler in the world. And then whooop. He's kinda the Barry Windham of Japan, although he fell much quicker and was never as good as Barry was once he did.

No idea which match it is exactly. It's been a while ago, and like I said, all those Dudleys vs Balls & whoever totally blended together to the point I wouldn't bother. Yeah, pretty much what I thought looking at those. Now, this one in particular watched in a vaacum and not on a binge ECW watch, I have no idea what I'd think of it if, and I emphasize the if, it's one I actively fast forwarded through. That being said, both Spike & Balls were pretty much unbereable to me on their own already, so...

I blame the Hardies for being one of the firsts, along with Edge, to bring awkward indierrific moves with useless body movements into the mainstream. But apart from that, there were a good tag team. I really liked the MNM match from that WWECW PPV a lot.

Everyone and their dog doing a podcast. It's getting ridiculous. Latest in the game : Bill Demott. First guest : Vince Russo. No comment.

Probably because you had some DOA vs Recon & Sniper match on the other channel.

Tito Santana would disagree. But yeah. People often gush about "storytelling" in wrestling, but the truth is, not that many stories are told. Not that much variations, which is too bad.

Indeed.

I missed the part when I said anything about people wanting to vote for Ken Wayne. Oh, that's right, I didn't say anything. I just agreed with someone who previously said he couldn't separate the man from the worker. There you go. If I hadn't been called a hypocrite, there wouldn't have been any "horrifying" post. How much better is my moral compass ? What ? I'm just explaining why I feel the way I do after being called a hypocrite, Mister. You're the one passing judgment. I am not doing any moral competition. I didn't insult anyone either. So, deal with it. On the matter at hands, I do like Danny Davis quite a bit. (is that pro-wrestling only enough ?)

No. And if some people have issues with my perspective, too bad. I think I'm being perfectly clear about why I think the way I do. (Horrifying ? Seriously ? Let's keep the big words for the serious issues. That's a plea.)

This. Child sex exploitation. I'll pass. I find your stance very hypocritical considering you're still planning on putting Benoit on your list. Please, not this again. Do I need to explain for the billion time that we, ok let's say *I*, grew up with Benoit and that he only snaped and commited his awful crime after years and years of watching him and having made my mind about his quality as a wrestler ? While the Nightmares, well I probably saw some stuff when I watched some Memphis TV a few years ago, but it's not like I have any opinion or attachment to their work whatsoever, it would be new to me. And I just have no interest in watching a child molestor just because he was an entertaining rassstler. So hypocritical my ass. And then, at the risk of shocking people, a guy who by all acount has been a decent human being for most of his life before snapping for a reason we'll never know and murdering his family is less morally shocking to me than a life-long child abuser and rapist like say, Buck Zhumofe. That's where I stand to begin with. The Benoit crime is and will forever be a mystery and a tragedy, and what he did was of course godawful. But the other ones are legit human pieces of trash to me, and probably have been all their lives. So there.

Really, they blend together and when I was going through the entire ECW history a few years back, TV shows, com tapes, whatever house show I could find and PPV's, by 99 I was less tolerant of what I didn't like, and I truly hated those Dudleys vs Spike & Balls matches. By the end I was fast forwarding them because I could not handle it anymore. To me Spike is mediocre at best, I can't watch Balls because of his gimmick which ruins whatever talent he does have and the Duds are just that once they get to the wrestling part (I liked Buh Buh before he teamed with D-Von, who's a really shitty worker to me. They got better in WWE, yeah, that's me saying that, stupid crowd reactions aside, but I really like them less than most I believe). Along with RVD and New Jack, Spike & Balls were the two acts I just couldn't bare at all by the end of my ECW watch.

This. Child sex exploitation. I'll pass.

Those matches were unwatchable to me. So yeah, not enough.

If/when I'll watch those Portland TV shows, I'll see what's that.

Nah. Their best work was in 96 when Luger was a goofy tweener. And that's not about in-ring work. The 1990 Steiner match is one of the most overrated match of the 90's (along with the Steiner vs Hase & Sasaki match from the Dome. See the pattern ?).

I'm an ECW and a Sabu fan. But RVD is a no no. Clusterfuck Express.

Oh yeah. The Old Ace & the Young Ace together against the Funks. Terrific team of the 70's.

*vomit*

Ah ah ah !

I don't even see what's sleazy about it if it were true honestly. Ok, they're friends and swingers. And what ? They have nice orgies together and then make money in the same company. Ok. Good for them.