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Dave pimping things influences a lot of other people, especially people who don't watch that much or haven't been watching that long and unfortunately, it drowns out anyone like myself who have been watching that long and has seen that much. Not thinking Omega is the greatest wrestler ever and not liking the Okada/Omega match is legit seen as trolling and "trying to be edgy". The Omega/Okada thing was also a really special case due to Dave basically saying that this match was better than every other match in the history of wrestling. I wouldn't even feel comfortable giving you a list of the top 20 matches ever, yet alone saying something like that.

Add Tanahashi facing Billy fucking Gunn (https://twitter.com/jaudiowrestling/status/874100231587090432) and the interest in those shows is getting lower by the minute for me. I hope the tournament is fun at least. That's straight Japanese style. Reminds me of when Kobashi wasn't buying it when Gabe told him that people wanted to see him be Kobashi and not some stupid Japanese heel when he came to ROH.

Stardom women only work Stardom so why would places like Sendai Girls, Ice Ribbon, SEAdLINNNG, and others hurt from talent they don't use signing to WWE? The joshi scene is much healthier than the 2000s, the decade where AJW and Gaea japan both shutdown in the same year. Joshi didn't stop in 1999 and restart in 2014 so don't give me this shit that it's unhealthy or whatever, Pure-J and Sendai Girls have both gained a new trainee to their dojos, Chihiro Hashimoto, Tokyo Sports Rookie of the Year 2016, and Mika Shirahime aren't even two years into their careers and are already proving to be promising wrestlers. The joshi world doesn't revolve around Stardom and Rossy's hat, the scene will recover, Stardom and Weekly Playboy are the only ones who'll truly hurt from losing Io and Kairi to WWE. Akira Hokuto found a way to have a kid in 1998 and continue her career, fucking Jaguar Yokota had a kid in her 40s and still wrestles so that talking point can stop right there. I don't think the current scene is healthy at all. Too many promotions splitting up a very small fanbase. It's also mostly Tokyo based. Joshi just lost probably 2 of its biggest stars to WWE. That's not good. The 2000's are not a good example, but yes it was a bad period for joshi. There's not a lot of people on Io's skill level around in joshi and she's not that replaceable. She's the biggest female wrestler right now in Japan. And I can list multiple examples of people who got married or left and didn't come back.

Orton and Batista, with Batista probably getting Cena's spot.

I'm not sure what the long term plan is. We know about the women's tournament, but WWE isn't ready for an all-women's show. At this point, I'd say the 205 in 205 Live represents the number of people who actually watch it. And I don't want Asuka, Io or Hojo anywhere the main rosters.

I would go: **The Bruno to Backlund Territorial era**(5/17/1963-12/6/1983) - Starts to end when Bruno loses his belt for the last time, Backlund is the last real WWF territorial star and one of the first top faces to be booed. We see the end of the territorial way of promoting wrestling in the WWF. **The Vince vs The World/Hogan Era**(1/23/1984-1992/1993) - Backlund gone, Vince expands and takes down the world, Everyone appears on WWF TV at some point, Hulkamania grows and WWF becomes the top promotion, WWF gets cartoony and it ends as Hogan wraps up in 1992/1993 **The New Generation Era**(1993-1996) - Post-Hogan and post-steroid era with people like Bret, everyone has a 2nd job while being a wrestler, HBK/Diesel/Sid are the top stars, WWF and wrestling in the US have some of the worst ratings and attendances ever **The Attitude Era/Monday Night Wars**(1996-4/1/2001) - WWE copies from ECW and the shows become more vulgar, Bret gets screwed, Austin and Rock become stars, WWF has a boom period and gets in a war with WCW. The Attitude era ends as Austin joins Vince at Wrestlemania 17 and WWE business is never the same again. **The Ruthless Aggression Era/Post-WCW Era**(4.2.2001-2005) - WWF becomes WWE, WCW and ECW invade, The first ever Brand Split, Triple H's reign of terror, Rock and Austin start to go away, Brock/Orton/Cena rise **The Cena/PG Era**(2005-2/24/2014) - Cena as the corniest champ ever and top dog, tons of drug test failures, Benoit's double homicide, no blood, CM Punk's Pipe Bomb and the Rise of Daniel Bryan and the fans taking over shows, etc **The WWE Network Era**(2/24/2014-present) - The WWE debuts the Network changing the way wrestling is promoted, NXT becomes a super indy promotion, WWE starts to sign international stars and people of various shapes and sizes, Women start to be featured and taken seriously, Vince forces Roman Reigns down everyone's throats

>Also William Regal was at today's SEAdLINNNG show, (he's apparently been at every Korakuen show this week) and supposedly talked to both Arisa Nakajima and Sareee. Heard Hiroyo is a possibility as well. WWE's already got Asuka, Io and Hojo. They do not need any more joshi wrestlers and those three are already enough, yet alone grabbing Arisa and Sareee as well. Having too much of anything in wrestling is never good. Big Show was never really that special because they had Kane and then had Khali. 1 tall guy was special, 3 aren't. It's the same with the various guys WWE have signed lately. Itami was special...then they signed Nakamura. Getting Tozawa and Dar was cool, then they got Spanky and Mascara Dorada. It's too much. All of the joshi girls are mostly similar. Their main thing is in ring work, not promos or characters. It limits and kind of makes it hard to do some things with them. They can learn English and learn to talk, but that's going to take a while and who knows if that'll ever come to fruition. There's also only one champion. Everyone can't be the ace of the promotion or there is no ace. Someone's gonna have to job for someone else, and if you are an outside of WWE signing, that's the last thing you want to do. Moderation is also really key. Most wrestlers get stale after a few years. There's only so much you can do with them - try booking someone 52 times a year and tell me you still have ideas after. They don't have to get all of these girls now. They aren't going anywhere most likely and with WWE money/fame, they can coerce them to come back. WWE also has to be careful because the joshi scene is not healthy. There's a limited amount of girls and way too many promotions. They are going to be hit hard by all these signings and they just don't have the girls to replace them. And why would they? Who wants a job where you get hurt, don't get benefits and don't make that much money, especially as a Japanese girl who usually favors kids/marriage over work? They take everyone now and their might not be anyone left to take next time around. See the WWF in the early 1990's for how that turned out.

For fuck's sake. Are we comparing a terrible angle (which is scripted stuff executed by an employee) and cheating on your boyfriend (throw the first stone, people, there's nothing scandalous here) with actual *criminal activities* ? This is not a matter of "private life". It's the fact Moolah, from all accounts, was a true scumbag of a human being. Neither here nor there since it's the Mae Young Classic anyway. What the fuck was classic about Mae Young, you tell me. I remember her "flashing" her boobs at the Royal Rumble 2000, giving a birth to a hand and taking the table bump from the Dudleys at the highest of the mysoginic WWE booking. And well, there's a wee bit more about Mae too actually. Maybe Bix wants to post his article over here. As far as the tournament goes, good for the girls getting exposure. I may watch this, it's more interesting to me than the cruiserweight or UK indies stuff since the women have been more or less the saving grace of WWE in the last year or so. Like I said, it's a slippery slope when you start getting into not doing things because of people's outside of wrestling lives.

Again, if you want to go into real life things people did, there's no one left. I'd be complaining if it was Trish. Remember the bark like a dog angle? She didn't win any fans making a jerk of herself on Tough Enough either. Wendi maybe, but WWE forgot her. Sherri? Sure. Luna? Sure. Madusa, not really a WWE girl. Lita? Matt Hardy scandal. Jacqueline? Sure. Sable? No. Rockin Robin? Who? But I never cared about what wrestlers did in their private lives, just as I wouldn't anyone else.

Or Moolah. in kayfabe, she was the best women's wrestler ever in the US. It would make a ton of sense If you want to go into their personal lives, no one involved in wrestling could be honored, because everyone has done something. And for the people who haven't, I'm sure there's people who hate them that can find something.

No to the AOP vs DIY 5/20 match. Too many big spots that didn't have that much meaning.

I really would have rather seen a normal AOP vs DIY match. That ladder to the chin spot was so reckless and they did too many spots.

In Sumo, he was the master of using his long limbs to keep opponents away and slap/push people out.

There's really not many sumo moves used in wrestling to be honest. Some of the throws are definitely applicable though. Sumo's a really weird sport in that it is a fighting/physical type of sport but has almost no influence on any other sport. Sumo is a great sport though.

One of these things is not like the other. I mean Omega and Osperay botch a little less, but they'd be perfect partners/opponents for each other.

They draw similar numbers like this in NYC and they drew 3k+ for Mania weekend.

I didn't really get into all of it but getting the most out of everything > doing a whole bunch of stuff and getting little out of it. Randy Orton is a safe worker, but also my pick for the longest main event wrestlers with the worst run. If he were 5'9 Randy Jordan, he'd be nobody. I really don't like the indy style that prioritizes match quality over everything else. That's not what wrestling is about. The actual match part of wrestling is usually just a vehicle for something else. Characters and booking are much more important and are the real meat to the story. I can put Lawler in a million different situations and he would make it work. I can't say the same for a lot of the new GOATs like Omega, Osperay and Brian XL. Alot of the buzz right now about wrestling is coming from people who don't watch wrestling. Normally, this would create a boom and would be great for wrestling, but wrestling isn't doing great and the extra people are drowning out the people who've stuck with it through thick and thin. I don't want reddit and buzzfeed determining the future of wrestling and I hope they get their fill and move on to something else.

Yep. He had one match on TV under the gimmick and it wasn't a good showing for that gimmick. We know who Patrick Clark is from Tough Enough and a lot of us liked him as himself. Why they felt the need to change who Patrick Clark is, I'm not sure. Who's "they?" How do we know he didn't come up with the gimmick himself? Okay, it's a bad idea that the creator of it, whoever that may be, came up with. Does that please everyone? Patrick Clark being himself already got over, so I think it would get over again.

Yeah even other worked sports like roller derby don't use it.

Yep. He had one match on TV under the gimmick and it wasn't a good showing for that gimmick. We know who Patrick Clark is from Tough Enough and a lot of us liked him as himself. Why they felt the need to change who Patrick Clark is, I'm not sure.

You'd have to be more detailed here as to what you mean. There's a definite increase in buzzwords these days compared to before.

Halle Berry says hello. There is not one girl I can name who looks better with short hair than long hair and I've seen thousands of women. This is just my opinion though. I would think if a study was done, men would prefer long hair but I'd love to a true study on it.

Looks are a really important part of wrestling, especially in the "looking like a person who can beat someone up" department. If I can buy that you can hurt someone, you won't actually need to hurt someone for me to buy it. NXT has gotten to the point where the male wrestlers who were signed for their appearance/size stick out in the land of flippy guys under 5'10. You have to moderate it some though. Too many guys of any size/look/style ruins the effect of it. Wrestling can't really be fair unless everyone is 50/50.

Wreddit and the site as a whole is pretty bad. The popular opinion wins out every time and people who have just been watching wrestling for a year or two are determining who the best talent are. The whole set up of the downvoting system is constantly abused as well.

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