cm funk Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Way to prove my point, crazy man If the product sucks as much as you claim, why do you keep watching? Because it's the only game in town? It isn't. Evidently you have a comprehension issue. I stopped watching last night and won't watch again until Rumble time. Funny how someone endorsed that on Facebook who paid to see HIAC. Sorry bro, you lost me right there. But keep on complaining about the things you love to hate I wish you the best. Honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapshot Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 He lost me after Triple Hepatitis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tofu_chipmunk Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 He lost me after Triple Hepatitis. Yeah, I originally thought this was going to be a new stable of Nigel McGuinness, Sean Waltman, and Bob Orton Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 I honestly can't believe that in 2013 they are pushing Big Show as a major main event star in their biggest angle of the year. He is decent in the role, no question about that, it just seems so backwards thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Yes and it's driven by WWE paranoia and nepotism. For the former, the company seems unduly worried that TNA might rise out of the ashes by signing one of their big, disenchanted stars. On the other, driven by the former, the upper brass can't help itself but push around talent. Maybe Vince deep down feels the Cliq pulled a coup on him and that it's better to collaborate than risk a new Cliq or Austin from arising. Fucking hell Neil, take a breather mate. Your favourite guy didn't win last night. He still might win in the end. WWE being worried about TNA is the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've read on here. Nobody makes a difference in TNA. They've had Foley, Hardy, Nash, Angle, Ric Flair, HULK fucking HOGAN . . I'm sure Vince is shitting it. I'm sure WWE stars long to jump to a company where even the top stars are behind on pay and where ex-stars are trying to sue for shoddy treatment. I don't think WWE's been particularly good myself although it's nice to see the Wyatt's in program with a bit more meat to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 It's almost like they scoured the internet for the worst fantasy booked episode of Raw they could find, they even hit the meme of changing Kane's mask. Following that thinking, The Wyatts will be revealed as Vince's pets, Vince will be the devil who made them do it and we'll have The Wyatt Family for Vince vs The Shield for HHH. I wonder (and am hoping) that Punk and Bryan both being taken out by the Wyatts is the start of THE INTERNET DREAM TAG TEAM~! of Punk and Bryan that will continue for the next couple of months until one or the other's ego (if not both) fucks up the team, and we get Punk vs. Bryan at Mania. Honestly, I'd prefer those two to even get 10-15 minutes against each other than some 20+ bloated affair against a Clique member. It's not like they haven't done rematches at Mania before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 It's almost like they scoured the internet for the worst fantasy booked episode of Raw they could find, they even hit the meme of changing Kane's mask. Following that thinking, The Wyatts will be revealed as Vince's pets, Vince will be the devil who made them do it and we'll have The Wyatt Family for Vince vs The Shield for HHH. I wonder (and am hoping) that Punk and Bryan both being taken out by the Wyatts is the start of THE INTERNET DREAM TAG TEAM~! of Punk and Bryan that will continue for the next couple of months until one or the other's ego (if not both) fucks up the team, and we get Punk vs. Bryan at Mania. Honestly, I'd prefer those two to even get 10-15 minutes against each other than some 20+ bloated affair against a Clique member. It's not like they haven't done rematches at Mania before. The Nerd Megapowers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Only if they break up because of Punk's lustful eyes toward Brie Bella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Vince just called SummerSlam a "swing and a miss" in a conference call, which is a good indicator of why Bryan got taken out Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 What else could he say? It was important that he emphasized that SummerSlam's drop was an isolated event and not an indicator of their overall performance. It did more buys than Cena-Punk two years ago and Punk headlined plenty of PPVs after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Anyone hear of any updated info on a timeline for Mysterio to return? I'd love to see him on Team Yes! against the Wyatt Family/Shield at Survivor Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Vince just called SummerSlam a "swing and a miss" in a conference call, which is a good indicator of why Bryan got taken out Monday. Hardly. Bryan's been taken out for two months now on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Anyone hear of any updated info on a timeline for Mysterio to return? I'd love to see him on Team Yes! against the Wyatt Family/Shield at Survivor Series. Last I read secondhand on the internet is that they're not confident he's 100% healed and they want to make sure he's healed enough, at least, that he's not risking more damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Vince just called SummerSlam a "swing and a miss" in a conference call, which is a good indicator of why Bryan got taken out Monday. Hardly. Bryan's been taken out for two months now on a regular basis. That didn't seem like the type of take out where Bryan would be back next week. They did that to Punk, but Bryan getting slammed into the fence like that makes me think they could pull him off TV for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWOOD Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Another quality six man set up during the show tonight. I'm sure it won't spoil much to say that it's Cena and Rhodes Bros vs. Real Americans and Sandow. Real good stuff. Dustin did the FIP for most of the match and it seemed decently heated but you never know with Smackdown. On a side note, Darren Young is a great face in peril. His constant "Titus" shouting while he attempts to make a tag are great, so is his bumping. Ambrose teamed with Rollins tonight instead of Reigns. Hmmm. With all the talk about WWEs failure to deliver they sure have had a lot of really great TV mathes lately that seem to be building to ... something. Survivor Series looks more up in the air than it was last year, but in a good way. Cheers guys have a good weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 The Jim Ross Blog from his website yesterday afternoon: Article Link Based on the WWE conference call this morning, executives were apparently disappointed with the Summer Slam PPV buys and the term 'attraction' was used as the reason. Couldn't agree more. PPV's are all attraction driven and they've always been. However, the more that is given away on free TV and the more free TV that is provided in general the harder it is for attractions to be considered worth spending extra, big bucks on and adding to one's cable or satellite bill. Plus, too often major storylines are 1. over thought and 2. over exposed in largely a 'sameness' presentation on free TV to make them feel special enough for one to want to invest significant money on PPV to see more. I'm a believer that TV ratings can be achieved without giving away multiple, PPV attractions but only if long term, creative planning is firmly in place. Changing things on the fly and making 11th hour decisions regarding direction, etc will never be a successful formula. PPV's should generally feature one of two things. if not both, in different, main event level bouts, 1. The 'blow off' of a well told storyline or 2. The first bout of a well set up issue. It gets very tricky when one is trying to get multiple, PPV's out of two talents on successive PPV events. It can be done but it's getting harder and harder or so it seems. Storylines need to be simplified and made to be more plausibly believable and relatable to the average fan. That allows for the talents to create a discernible, personal issue and create an emotional investment that is required to manufacture success and to warrant spending more PPV dollars. How some in the business can discount the lack of disposable income for the average Joe to buy monthly PPV's is beyond incredulous to me. Most fans cannot buy 12 PPV's in today's economy...no matter if it be in pro wrestling or MMA.....or both. Plus, what new talent in the business today is truly "hot?" What new talent(s) provides must see TV and is in a professional ascension? Until someone new gets hot and connects organically with the audience then the shift in the perception of the genre, in general, isn't likely to change any time soon. Stars sell tickets, it's always been that way, and until company's figure out how to commit to making new stars the business is going to on its current course. The good news in another big picture item for WWE is that their TV rights fees are dramatically under valued, another prime example of the old, pro rasslin bias in my view. When WWE TV programming gets what they deserve and what the market will bear, business, at least on the financial side, will definitely pick up. Getting several emails here and Tweets @JRsBBQ about 'deserving' NXT talents not being called up to the main roster in a more timely fashion. Firstly, specifically why are they "deserving?' Secondly, any new talent who's naive enough to think that they can become a star simply by showing up on TV without introductory vignettes and an established game plan in place for the first 12 months of their 'run' is being naive and foolish. If the powers that be cannot agree upon an introductory 12 month plan then the talent is better off staying 'off Broadway' and refining their game. Plus, it's obvious that several TV wrestling talents have arguably overstayed their welcome and either need to go away and regroup or simply just go away. It's not automatic that everyone who's currently appearing on a weekly TV wrestling show deserves to be there or that the business is their calling. Rosters need to change and to be tweaked regularly and to systematically add 'new' talents to the mix. However, that requires that all decision makers make a commitment and to encourage that their support staffs have the courage to stand by their ideas and to also think outside the box. The creative aspect of the sports entertainment genre is one of the most over thought, under achieving elements within the business especially when many fundamental aspects of the business are largely ignored and those within creative are afraid to express themselves or feel compelled to reinvent the wheel in hopes of endearing themselves to those in power. Top talents back in the day had an open door to the bookers who made the decisions regarding the matches and the creative utilized in all bouts because the goal was to sell tickets as that was the way that revenue was generated, by and large. The talents had an agenda, to draw money, in which everyone involved benefited. When the business started becoming more diverse it was thought that a 'writing team' had to be created, then expanded and to eventually to experiment with more 'entertainment' ideas rather than 'competition' ideas which seems, in hind sight, to have been a fundamental mistake. Too many cooks in an unorganized kitchen doesn't produce tasty meals Decision makers have to establish the long term direction of their companies and then rely on the creative minds within the organizations to help navigate the pre-determined route. The lack of adequate, long term planning in the world of TV pro wrestling creative is the proverbial kiss of death. That issue is followed closely by the lack of talent development as fans of every sport's team and entertainment entity love to have something 'new' added to the mix. (Think the NFL Draft...the introduction or a breakout star in a film, etc.) We live in a society of 'new' and that self indulgent theory isn't likely to change any time soon. Wrestling decision makers have to start looking longer at how an idea might be successful rather than automatically reacting to a suggestion as to why said idea won't work. Feel like he touched on several talking points that a lot of us could agree with. Found it interesting & thought I would post it here for people to read if anyone missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 I watched the SD! Main Event Six Man and Team Goldust can do no wrong right now. Great Goldust FIP section. Cody has really good babyface offense. Hot finish with everyone hitting their finisher. HOt crowd as far as I could hear. Cesaro over as a mother fucker with that big swing. I even enjoyed the tag champions and Cena raising their belts in unison to end the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Fuck, I could watch this six man combo every night of the week. I like the Goldust FIP better than a Cena FIP but great stretch run and another super fun match. The legend of Goldust and Cesaro continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 That Cena hurricarana was a great moment. Better executed than the time he did it to Punk. Great TV match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yeah John was off the chain tonight, that crazy counter he did on Sandow before the tag was great too. Even not being an FIP, Goldust manages to be one of the better hot tags in the business. Loved how prominent the Cena/Cesaro showdown was, here's hoping for an extended Smackdown match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 It is the year of the six man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Also man, after that Tyson Kidd match Michael Cole announcing that Tyson Kidd was the #1 twitter trend in the world and saying how it "shows the power of Total Divas" was quite a low blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 CORPORATE KANE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Kane has offered his destructive powers to the Authority. Tune in Monday nights to see Kane unleash hell on Earth by handing other people chairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Business man Kane made me legitimately LOL. Needs the hat, sunglasses and gloves to be a modern Curtis Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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