Matt D Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Johnny's Stu impression is awesome and the Patterson one's pretty great too but I'm not a fan of the Vince one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 His best one is Paul Lynde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 His best one is Paul Lynde. Â As in Goober Pyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm partial to his Capt. Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 There's never really been a Paul Lynde-based heel, has there? Â The Hooded Claw would have been a perfect Chikara character, but I think a Lynde-styled manager would have gotten tons of heat in certain parts of the country during the territory days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 His best one is Paul Lynde.  As in Goober Pyle   Never mind. Got Paul confused with George. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Johnny's best impression by far is Lou Albano, 100% match. His Blassie is good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Johnny's best impression by far is Lou Albano, 100% match. His Blassie is good too. I can't listen to the Titans show since I'm too unfamiliar with the specifics of the material. It's stuff I might pick up some day though and if I do I'll be sure to listen. For now I have to miss out on that part of the Johnny Sorrow Michael Winslow comedy review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I don't think you have to be too knowledgeable of the era to enjoy Titans. It's mostly Sorrow impersonations, pointing out funny-looking fans at ringside, and jokes about Bruno's rug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I've been traveling for a week and had my ipod charger, but not the computer Its synced with , so I'm a couple episodes behind this and a couple other podcasts I frequent. Going to be a long catchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 It's going to be a longer catch up because we just recorded another one tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I was a tad worried listenting to this one going in but it ended up being a very civil talk here about Bret's career. Way, I look at it. Flair has had the better career but I enjoy watching Bret more. Johnny's Stu impression was excellent. Nobody listed Bret/Owen from WrestleMania as their favorite match at the end. Unless, I missed it but that was surprising. Glad you all skipped Montreal and kept the talk about his WCW career short. Good show everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 . The goal was never to slag Hart. The show really was an open forum to say what you wanted about Bret... Including the idea that he isn't even close to Flair in the GOAT list. It also destroyed the stupid notion that Loss is too involved in the Flair-Bret debate to talk about Hart fairly and critically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Definitely a fair podcast, though I do think the goalposts move a bit but that's on both sides and with a lack of clarity. Flair beats Bret in a GOAT poll to me. Flair beats Bret in a "who has the more impressive career" poll. I like Bret's idea of what a wrestling match should be and and how he follows through on it better than Flair's. So it's all about how you define the question I think. BUT that's not important. What's important is that this was an unquestionably fair podcast. Â Neither here nor there, I think an interesting counter to Flair's week that was brought up would be June 12-13, 1993. Obviously the scope of what Flair did is bigger but Bret had the 40 minute Backlund match which I think is really good, and then the three matches the next night with both the Bam Bam and Perfect matches being really good and all fairly different. I wish we had more of the Luger single matches from that June too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 No idea how that double post happened. Sorry. Â Since it was mentioned: Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Neither here nor there, I think an interesting counter to Flair's week that was brought up would be June 12-13, 1993. Obviously the scope of what Flair did is bigger but Bret had the 40 minute Backlund match which I think is really good, and then the three matches the next night with both the Bam Bam and Perfect matches being really good and all fairly different. I wish we had more of the Luger single matches from that June too. That's actually a fantastic point in Bret's favor I've never thought of before. Â Also, while I'm not a huge fan of the match, he had the Ironman with Owen which is pretty well regarded and the Kid title defense from RAW within a few days of each other too. So Bret probably does have stretches like that too. Great wrestler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Neither here nor there, I think an interesting counter to Flair's week that was brought up would be June 12-13, 1993. Obviously the scope of what Flair did is bigger but Bret had the 40 minute Backlund match which I think is really good, and then the three matches the next night with both the Bam Bam and Perfect matches being really good and all fairly different. I wish we had more of the Luger single matches from that June too. That's actually a fantastic point in Bret's favor I've never thought of before. Â Also, while I'm not a huge fan of the match, he had the Ironman with Owen which is pretty well regarded and the Kid title defense from RAW within a few days of each other too. So Bret probably does have stretches like that too. Great wrestler. Â The Backlund Superstars match that you like is sandwiched in-between those two matches also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 The best part of Johnny's Stu impression was the very understated (I think Will was laughing over this - can't blame him) "What's that Richie? You want to fight me?" part at the very end of his first bit. Cracked me up as it sounded totally in character.  I totally want to check out the Yoko/Bret match that Loss was talking about. They also had a very good match in White Plains in Nov 93 that made Bret's recent set as a Blu-ray exclusive:  WWE Championship Match Bret Hart vs. Yokozuna White Plains, New York • November 29, 1993  That one is definitely worth checking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 The fact Bret and Yoko had awesome matches outside of Mania 9 and 10 makes it all the more sad that they couldn't have a classic at Mania. The Hogan factor at nine and Luger factor at ten ruined what could have been another classic matchup between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Boricua Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Neither here nor there, I think an interesting counter to Flair's week that was brought up would be June 12-13, 1993. Obviously the scope of what Flair did is bigger but Bret had the 40 minute Backlund match which I think is really good, and then the three matches the next night with both the Bam Bam and Perfect matches being really good and all fairly different. I wish we had more of the Luger single matches from that June too. That's actually a fantastic point in Bret's favor I've never thought of before. Â Also, while I'm not a huge fan of the match, he had the Ironman with Owen which is pretty well regarded and the Kid title defense from RAW within a few days of each other too. So Bret probably does have stretches like that too. Great wrestler. Â The Backlund Superstars match that you like is sandwiched in-between those two matches also. Â One additional detail to these two days (and someone correct me if I am confusing this with some other occasion) is that Bret injured his ankle in the match against Backlund and worked KOTR injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Listening to this now. One thing, you guys talk about Bret Hart's first feud as WWF champ being with Shawn Michaels. I would argue that's not correct. They never feuded in 92 they had one random meaningless match at Survivor Series booked that happened to then become a world title match when Bret got the title. But there weren't any angles or a storyline to this match. Bret was instead going around the horn with Nailz of all people for the first few days after winning the title. After that he seemed to face Papa Shango around the horn a decent number of times then Rick Martel (who seems to be subbing for the Mountie). Bret wasn't given a fair chance IMO at the start he didn't have a main even opponent for house shows, he didn't have a ready made feud, instead he fought a bunch of mid carders same as he did on tv. A program with Shawn MIGHT have been a good idea but with the roster stretched the way it was the IC champ feuding with the World champ might not have worked. Â Eventually Flair comes back and is put into a program with Bret. Flair however was not a great draw in the WWF, decent against Hogan, mediocre against everyone else in that 91-93 run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 I think Bret's early tv defenses are very interesting. Berzerker, Shango, Kamala, Virgil all within a few week period, all in pretty short matches that I actually don't think did him any favors though they were supposed to make him look like the most fightingest champion ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 As a 12 year old those matches really excited me because Superstars and Challenge were all I got and it made it seem to me that Bret wasn't too good to appear on those shows the way the rest of the champs had traditionally been. It made me a big fan of his title run. Looking back at it, I think I take your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Flair has had the better career but I enjoy watching Bret more. This sums up my feelings exactly. Also, I think Will's point about people's upbringing influencing their tastes is right on. Guys like Loss who grew up on JCP learned to accept the things that annoy people like me about the style. By the same token, a lot of the complaints people have about the current WWE product are things I don't give a second thought to. Â Also, for the record, when I talked about Flair becoming less relevant, I didn't mean any time in the near future. I was thinking more 30 or 40 years down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhindsight Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Given it is Bret's birthday - a little retro bump for those new to PWO that may have not listened to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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