The Thread Killer Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Anyone watching episodes from 2007 knows what happened, anyway, so I see no reason not to put it up. Because it's a two hour tribute show to a guy who brutally murdered his wife and kid ? And that's it's totally offensive and hurtful to the living relatives ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 So it looks like they just put up the 6/25/07 Raw. Honestly can't imagine it stays there once people familiar with it are clued in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 It's the international version that was the best of ppv matches that year or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 It's the international version that was the best of ppv matches that year or something. That's a relief, and actually sounds like a fun highlight show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Okay I was wondering what that was. At first I wonder if there was a west coast version of RAW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Anyone who actually bitches that the Benoit murder RAW isn't on the network should invest in weight machines , tiny bibles, and dogs in enclosed pool areas . Jesus fucking Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 It is kind of jarring to see how hard they were pushing the angle with Vince blowing up in his limo and the subsequent investigation prior to everything happening. Obviously, they had to do it, but it sucks to watch the build up knowing what is going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Not to be too morbid/insensitive but considering that the Limo Angle just morphed into the Paternity Angle and that the Paternity Angle ended up being a total joke with a lame punchline (it was...Hornswoggle! So funny I forgot I laugh!), I kinda wish that entire storyline would've been in the house when Benoit did his thing. And, while I know the original concept had some people intrigued (probably myself included back in 2007), when you consider the way Mr. Kennedy turned out in TNA and you really look at his track record of even just "good" matches, I don't think even the original concept, executed perfectly, would've bore fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Yea I'm really not sure how the whole Kennedy hype train even got started as I never thought the guy was all that good. If the angle had played out as planned as he'd have been the illegitimate McMahon I'm pretty sure that would have lead to a huge push for him and I'm quite glad that never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Yea I'm really not sure how the whole Kennedy hype train even got started as I never thought the guy was all that good. If the angle had played out as planned as he'd have been the illegitimate McMahon I'm pretty sure that would have lead to a huge push for him and I'm quite glad that never happened. He wasn't good but this was during a weird time where everyone they bringing up through developmental was so identical, if you did anything different to stand out you were considered good. See also: Carlito. They have the entire year up now. I really loved that anniversary show they did in December that had the random appearances from Bastion Booger and Sunny. Much better than the terrible 2003 anniversary show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Yea I'm really not sure how the whole Kennedy hype train even got started as I never thought the guy was all that good. If the angle had played out as planned as he'd have been the illegitimate McMahon I'm pretty sure that would have lead to a huge push for him and I'm quite glad that never happened. He wasn't good but this was during a weird time where everyone they bringing up through developmental was so identical, if you did anything different to stand out you were considered good. See also: Carlito. They have the entire year up now. I really loved that anniversary show they did in December that had the random appearances from Bastion Booger and Sunny. Much better than the terrible 2003 anniversary show. Funny you say that about Carlito because I almost mentioned him in that post as a guy in that same boat. But even though I never thought Carlito was all that good in the ring I thought he was a more interesting character than "all I do is say my name twice" Mr. Kennedy. At least around the time that he debuted and they were doing the whole "did Carlito stab John Cena?" deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 I think people got on the hype train because Kennedy had the Vince seal of approval that basically guaranteed a big push. As I recall, Vince personally chose to give his middle name for use as Anderson's new surname, then he started getting PPV matches with the Undertaker pretty early into his run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 I think people got on the hype train because Kennedy had the Vince seal of approval that basically guaranteed a big push. As I recall, Vince personally chose to give his middle name for use as Anderson's new surname, then he started getting PPV matches with the Undertaker pretty early into his run. Well times have certainly changed then if that's the case because now having the Vince seal of approval just means everyone hates you even if you're putting on the best matches in the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 I think people got on the hype train because Kennedy had the Vince seal of approval that basically guaranteed a big push. As I recall, Vince personally chose to give his middle name for use as Anderson's new surname, then he started getting PPV matches with the Undertaker pretty early into his run. Well times have certainly changed then if that's the case because now having the Vince seal of approval just means everyone hates you even if you're putting on the best matches in the company. Like political/social issues debates, how much do you want to put the blame for that on the rise of the more "quick hot take" nature of social/network media platforms that rose in the ensuing years? Twitter, Tumblr-esque gifs and memes, podcasts, YouTube channels, etc. Though to be fair, Kennedy/Anderson was presented as a guy who wasn't given the keys to the kingdom the way Reigns has, or seemingly fell into the business because of failures at other things (Cena/body building, Reigns/football). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 It's the international version that was the best of ppv matches that year or something. That's a relief, and actually sounds like a fun highlight show. That's a very reasonable compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 I think people got on the hype train because Kennedy had the Vince seal of approval that basically guaranteed a big push. As I recall, Vince personally chose to give his middle name for use as Anderson's new surname, then he started getting PPV matches with the Undertaker pretty early into his run.Well times have certainly changed then if that's the case because now having the Vince seal of approval just means everyone hates you even if you're putting on the best matches in the company. Like political/social issues debates, how much do you want to put the blame for that on the rise of the more "quick hot take" nature of social/network media platforms that rose in the ensuing years? Twitter, Tumblr-esque gifs and memes, podcasts, YouTube channels, etc. Though to be fair, Kennedy/Anderson was presented as a guy who wasn't given the keys to the kingdom the way Reigns has, or seemingly fell into the business because of failures at other things (Cena/body building, Reigns/football). This has always been the absolute dumbest criticism of Reigns to me because there is an incredibly long list of wrestlers who didn't make big names in professional football but became huge stars in wrestling. I guess we should all hate The Rock, Butch Reed, Jim Duggan, Ron Simmons, etc etc etc now though since they didn't have lengthy All Pro careers in the NFL before getting into wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 I think people got on the hype train because Kennedy had the Vince seal of approval that basically guaranteed a big push. As I recall, Vince personally chose to give his middle name for use as Anderson's new surname, then he started getting PPV matches with the Undertaker pretty early into his run.Well times have certainly changed then if that's the case because now having the Vince seal of approval just means everyone hates you even if you're putting on the best matches in the company. Like political/social issues debates, how much do you want to put the blame for that on the rise of the more "quick hot take" nature of social/network media platforms that rose in the ensuing years? Twitter, Tumblr-esque gifs and memes, podcasts, YouTube channels, etc. Though to be fair, Kennedy/Anderson was presented as a guy who wasn't given the keys to the kingdom the way Reigns has, or seemingly fell into the business because of failures at other things (Cena/body building, Reigns/football). This has always been the absolute dumbest criticism of Reigns to me because there is an incredibly long list of wrestlers who didn't make big names in professional football but became huge stars in wrestling. I guess we should all hate The Rock, Butch Reed, Jim Duggan, Ron Simmons, etc etc etc now though since they didn't have lengthy All Pro careers in the NFL before getting into wrestling. Not sure which is worse, that Reigns only became a pro-wrestler because he failed at football, or the hate because he replaced Chris Hero in CM Punk's original concept of The Shield (I try not to look into crazy anti-Reigns corners but I have to assume replacing an IWC darling in a concept created by an IWC darling who is noted for creative clashes and being proven "right" more often than not is high up on their list of reasons to despise him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 It is kind of jarring to see how hard they were pushing the angle with Vince blowing up in his limo and the subsequent investigation prior to everything happening. Obviously, they had to do it, but it sucks to watch the build up knowing what is going to happen. I always remember this for Bret Hart doing a pre tape, marking the first time he was filmed specifically for Raw since 97. It took a further three years for him to feel comfortable enough to enter a ring, live. Apparently Vince's brother was meant to get involved with this storyline also until the Benoit incident. My memory is suggesting he was even at that "tribute" Raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Was there going to be a Vince McMahon Tribute show, or am I making that up? That would had been amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Was there going to be a Vince McMahon Tribute show, or am I making that up? That would had been amazing. Yeah, they had a three-hour Raw special scheduled before the Benoit situation derailed everything, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 The night of the Benoit Raw was supposedly going to feature the first appearance of his brother Rod McMahon on WWE TV. He was backstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Rod McMahon is #1 and the best, and it's horribly disappointing that Chris Benoit robbed us of seeing him on WWE TV (though it is more disappointing that he murdered his wife and son, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 The Legends with JBL episode with Booker T debuted last night and was very good. It mostly dealt with his personal life, but man, he is so lucky that he was able to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmistguy90 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 I wonder if we will ever get evolve on the network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 I wonder if we will ever get evolve on the network Now that Evolve seems to be set up as a co-feeder system with NXT, there's probably a good chance if/when someone coming from there ends up being a fixture on WWE TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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