iamthedoctor Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 One thing that struck me about that ECW doc, well two actually. Bubba was spot on saying ECW was the Napster of wrestling. They changed the business then went away. Also it was something to see everyone on the panel still having such passion for ECW. I can't imagine anyone currently in the business having the same feelings for any company today. I felt that had ECW continued on RVD would have beaten Rhyno for the ECW World Title. I agree with what Bubba said, ECW heavily influenced the Attitude era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Like they said , the poster for the show was Sabin and Taz. After so many examples why are some people so OCD about a main event must be the last match or even a title match? Thanks for the clarification. If it was the most heavily promoted and fan anticipated, I don't have an issue with it. I wasn't watching ECW then, so I didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Weren't the Insane Clown Posse on a Disney label until someone found out what their music actually was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Disney owned Miramax, so they distributed both Pulp Fiction and Clerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I know countdown shows are pretty much BS, but someone explain to me how fans tossing dozens of chairs on top of Public Enemy, Cactus and Terry Funk, as well as the Beulah-Kimona kiss ranked above Shane Douglass throwing down the NWA title and essentially creating ECW? I'll listen to a conversation that will put the lesbian kiss in a top 5 moments all-time, if you want to take it from a "see, we were progressive and trail blazing on social issues on our television" sort of standpoint (plus it was a storyline advancement), but the chairs moment seems more like a list filler moment (ahhh, we need something in slot 45 sort of thing), rather than THE OMG moment of ECW history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I know countdown shows are pretty much BS, but someone explain to me how fans tossing dozens of chairs on top of Public Enemy, Cactus and Terry Funk, as well as the Beulah-Kimona kiss ranked above Shane Douglass throwing down the NWA title and essentially creating ECW? I'll listen to a conversation that will put the lesbian kiss in a top 5 moments all-time, if you want to take it from a "see, we were progressive and trail blazing on social issues on our television" sort of standpoint (plus it was a storyline advancement), but the chairs moment seems more like a list filler moment (ahhh, we need something in slot 45 sort of thing), rather than THE OMG moment of ECW history! Agreed. Was pretty stunned that the belt getting thrown down wasn't #1. The chairs in the ring was a pretty big deal (it was the end of the opening of the show for years), but it's more top 10 than number 1. Regardless of the rankings themselves, the show was pretty fun, with a wide-ranging group of people talking about the moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 And they hit some of the points that I would have assumed would be swept under a rug like the crucifixion angle. The only obvious stuff they left out that I could think of from the top of my head was the Mass Transit incident, the "December to Forget" (as Mick Foley called it in his first book), Vic Grimes' scaffold bump and the Tanaka vs. Awesome and Tajiri vs. Super Crazy vs. Little Guido rivalries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Paul Heymen is the greatest worker of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 "ECW is negotiating with Buena Vista" is a story that was around at the time, even if it was never true, or if it was and just had nothing to do with a sale. At the very least, it wasn't Heyman pulled completely out of thin air for the new special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 I can buy it. Keep in mind, Disney isn't just Mickey Mouse. They have many subsidiaries (and Paul did say he was negotiating with one of those). For example, in the '80s, Touchstone Pictures - a Disney company - released movies geared towards teens and adults. Things are a little different now. By purchasing Marvel and Lucasfilm, they've narrowed the focus a bit and are seemingly less concerned with putting out the kind of films they did with Touchstone (which may very well released it's last movie this year) and helping invest in what Miramax did. I think about the only thing they have left that isn't at least partially aimed at a young audience are ABC's original prime-time dramas. But as it was in the 90's, I could have seen them get in the wrestling game. ECW, even owned by the same Disney company that helped bring Pulp Fiction and Michael Bay to the masses, would have been considerably watered down. They probably would have just wound up doing with it what WCW was essentially doing around this time, remaking itself in the WWF's image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Been watching the Legends with JBL on Bruno Sammartino, was a great interview much like the second part of the Booker T one. I really want to see the upcoming Madusa one as it sounds interesting and I want to hear about the name she is going to let the cat out of the bag on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 "ECW is negotiating with Buena Vista" is a story that was around at the time, even if it was never true, or if it was and just had nothing to do with a sale. At the very least, it wasn't Heyman pulled completely out of thin air for the new special. That was a rumor. Part of that rumor was that ECW would end up moving from MSG Network and TNN to ESPN 2. Another rumor was that due to the AOL Time Warner merger, WCW would get the plug pulled and ECW would get Thunder's slot. Another rumor was that some record executive was going to buy the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 They finished the 2011 uploads so the entire run of Raw is up except for the Raw Bowl episode that apparently ran afoul of the copyright gods for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 "ECW is negotiating with Buena Vista" is a story that was around at the time, even if it was never true, or if it was and just had nothing to do with a sale. At the very least, it wasn't Heyman pulled completely out of thin air for the new special. That was a rumor. Part of that rumor was that ECW would end up moving from MSG Network and TNN to ESPN 2. Another rumor was that due to the AOL Time Warner merger, WCW would get the plug pulled and ECW would get Thunder's slot. Another rumor was that some record executive was going to buy the company. I remember them talking to USA Network, since they lost Raw too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Past and present WWE Network subscribers, check your registered email for a recent survey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Past and present WWE Network subscribers, check your registered email for a recent survey. I hear about these surveys from time to time but have never received one. Wonder how large a sample they use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirJordanFan93 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Past and present WWE Network subscribers, check your registered email for a recent survey. I hear about these surveys from time to time but have never received one. Wonder how large a sample they use. Are you on their mailing list. I haven't gotten anything about the Network for a year now since I unsubscribed from their mailing list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirJordanFan93 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 They finished the 2011 uploads so the entire run of Raw is up except for the Raw Bowl episode that apparently ran afoul of the copyright gods for some reason. Finally can relive that awful October 31st 2011 RAW once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 They finished the 2011 uploads so the entire run of Raw is up except for the Raw Bowl episode that apparently ran afoul of the copyright gods for some reason. I can't imagine what the issues could be. They managed to skate around the whole Kid Rock deal with Raw #366, even while showing Joe C. in backstage vignettes and running in during the tag titles match. So, I imagine that, they're just trolling the OCD types, by purposely holding that one episode out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Past and present WWE Network subscribers, check your registered email for a recent survey. I hear about these surveys from time to time but have never received one. Wonder how large a sample they use. Are you on their mailing list. I haven't gotten anything about the Network for a year now since I unsubscribed from their mailing list. Yeah, regularly get emails from them at 2 addresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Past and present WWE Network subscribers, check your registered email for a recent survey. Well, what's on the thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Funny enough, received an email survey from them today. First time since launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Got one today as well. Essentially: -Who are your favorite superstars? -What is your opinion of each brand (rating 1-10) -Sort the divisions (singles, tag teams, cruiserweight, women) in order of interest -How often do you watch? -How often do you engage on various social media platforms? -What types of programming are most important? -How do you view programming? (I.e. Smartphone, tablet, streaming device on tv) -Demographics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I got that survey, I can only wonder the troll responses that will come as a result with WWE thinking their most popular stars are James Ellsworth and Liv Morgan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 James Ellsworth might actually be their most popular guy, though. He's been getting better reactions than Dean Ambrose for a month and a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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