UKWildcat Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I agree with the others. Flair is fantastic in this setting. This is a MUST listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapshot Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 The burial of Honky Tonk was a joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I liked the sober ones more. Sad to hear Flair as elderly, semi-irate drunk, esp. after he looked so old on the Dusty roundtable. Past episodes have been great and it's definitely still worth listening to weekly (Funk, Steamboat, Bret, Meltzer in particular). But this was Flair slurring his speech more than ever, and dragging out his well-worn grudges with Bischoff/NWO. Conrad was smashed too, when he's the one often able to reset the show and get Flair back on track. That said, certain things on there are really fascinating, even if they're false/exaggerated: claiming Beefcake stole jewels from Hogan's house, crazy drinking stories, burying Honky, Sullivan's secret plan to pop the Network, etc. I actually thought the most interesting thing was how little Flair thought of Bill Dundee, acting gobsmacked that Dundee had a place in the WCW booking committee, when most evidence would suggest Dundee was a vastly better booker than Flair, and likely a better one than Sullivan. They were also way off on the timelines and locations in certain stories, but such is the nature of old wrestlers telling tales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I haven't finished the Sullivan podcast yet, but damn near had to pull the car over I was laughing so hard at the candle story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Brutus Beefcake stealing Hogan's jewelry? LOL. "Keep that yard of foreskin reeled in, man!" Just classic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Flair and Conrad are so hammered on this show. 😆 I love it. That's my podcast gimmick! 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Who exactly is this Conrad fella? Just a long-time friend of Flair's? The show is pure gold and world's better than I would've imagined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I really liked the Mean Gene interview, I just wish they would have talked more about Gene's AWA & WWF days. I did kind of enjoy the bit at the end where Flair is like "I don't remember us having any problems Gene" and Gene was like "yea well I wasn't too happy with that time you had a fake heart attack in the ring with me" and Flair just starts laughing like "Hey that was their idea" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted July 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 About half-way through the Sullivan show. I've listened to a hell of a lot of Sullivan on his own show recently, so was more interested in the interactions between these two. I would much prefer a sober Flair, just I much prefer a sober Johnny Sorrow. But there have still been some funny moments here. "What's the Honkytonk Man going to get me on? Not being able to work or not being able to play guitar?" Most interesting thing probably is something that most people would likely miss: Flair is putting Sullivan over as a genius on this show, and yet when Bret buried him in show 1 ("Who's Kevin Sullivan, y'know?") Flair bit his lip. Just a little bit of a reveal into a couple of things: 1. Flair was clearly prioritising mending bridges with Bret in that show. 2. He put that priority over defending his friend in that situation. Just interesting that he didn't pipe up. Although I guess in another sense, Flair was sitting back and letting Bret hang himself since he didn't say anything about Hogan either. You can tell which people in the business are close to Flair and which aren't. One other thing is that Arn Anderson is coming out of these shows as a real character as the "master jouster". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Meh. It's not like it's exclusive to Flair's show or anything though. Austin has run into the same situation a couple of times. You can't have such a wide range of guests without coming across a few burnt bridges or guys who still hold onto some old grudges or whatever. I get that Bret's a case where the bitterness is a little stronger than most though. But yeah. There have been plenty of people on Austin's show where he lets them say their piece, doesn't disagree, and just moves on. Shane Douglas sure didn't have many nice things to say on the topic of Shawn or Flair PERSONALLY, but he's mature enough to recognize their place among elite workers in the eyes of the boys and all that. But Austin's a smart host, and he's not about to blast someone over a personal opinion or bad experience. I'm actually glad to hear Flair took the high road. I'm backtracking through all the episodes and haven't come across the Bret one yet, but it's good to know he's taken the hosting gig seriously. And yeah. I realize the ridiculousness of saying that on the week that he drops a podcast all liquored up. But hey. It's Naitch. It was bound to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I don't think it's that he takes the hosting gig seriously but that he's at an age and has experienced enough loss that he realizes how fickle life is and he wants friends and not enemies (except for Honky Tonk Man and even then, he was pretty drunk). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKWildcat Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I don't think it's that he takes the hosting gig seriously but that he's at an age and has experienced enough loss that he realizes how fickle life is and he wants friends and not enemies (except for Honky Tonk Man and even then, he was pretty drunk). ...and Beefcake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I don't think he's really taking the hosting gig all that seriously. Which is probably why it's actually good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZThomas Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Flair may have the best podcast of all the wrestlers, I goes by so quick that he forget to ask alot of questions. Like he could have Steaboat back on and it would be completely frest to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Flair's podcasts with Mean Gene & Sullivan both went by really fast but at the end felt like there was a ton left that wasn't discussed, so hopefully he has both of them back at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Finally started listening to this today. It's pretty great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The new one has JJ and Flair is eating his dinner on the air. It's really kinda gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Punting the wife's handbag across the bar, and drunk driving home to get the daughter before passing out with JJ out cold in the Cadillac was like a scene straight out of the Wolf on Wall Street!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The new one has JJ and Flair is eating his dinner on the air. It's really kinda gross. The eating was actually enough for me to shut it down. I don't need impeccable production or sound quality but I won't listen to chewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Probably one of the things that make the Flair podcast so great is that it is so unprofessional whether it is eating on the mic or getting drunk or exposing backstage stuff that he probably shouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The new one has JJ and Flair is eating his dinner on the air. It's really kinda gross. The eating was actually enough for me to shut it down. I don't need impeccable production or sound quality but I won't listen to chewing. God forbid you should ever see the 13-hour shoot where he's got the chewing tobacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Probably one of the things that make the Flair podcast so great is that it is so unprofessional whether it is eating on the mic or getting drunk or exposing backstage stuff that he probably shouldn't The material doesn't bother me. Perhaps sad at times, but it doesn't trouble me. But the chewing is like nails on a chalkboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 The new one has JJ and Flair is eating his dinner on the air. It's really kinda gross. The eating was actually enough for me to shut it down. I don't need impeccable production or sound quality but I won't listen to chewing. God forbid you should ever see the 13-hour shoot where he's got the chewing tobacco.It's unwatchable. And I am also anti-chewing, so I am not looking forward to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Cornette sort of felt like the first guest he had that really understands how these things work. There were times he was trying to steer Flair away from things in a "don't you realize other people listen to this and we're not just talking for fun?" which was sort of amusing. It's pretty plain to see that Flair had been censored by CBS after the last couple of weeks too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Cornette sort of felt like the first guest he had that really understands how these things work. There were times he was trying to steer Flair away from things in a "don't you realize other people listen to this and we're not just talking for fun?" which was sort of amusing. It's pretty plain to see that Flair had been censored by CBS after the last couple of weeks too. Yeah, he makes mention of the fact that he isn't drinking or eating this week on several occasions to the point it was clear someone has had words with him about him. Another great interview and considering how many shoots/interviews Cornette has done, nice to hear a couple of stories that I haven't heard him mention before (the one about Flair coming to a WWF PPV with Reid in the late 90s and one with Nikita Koloff for starters). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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