Boon Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 If it's sort of 11pm English time that would make it 6pm eastern? Edit: really stating the obvious, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 No need to be on the same time. Just run the draft through the board (or email if that's easier) and assign a block of time for everyone to make their pick. Do our best to assign the UK folks a block when they're actually awake. At the very worst, people can do round by round draft sheets and someone can make the pick for them based on who's left and who's on top of the person's sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Just throwing this out there, but whoever gets Central States ought to get 1st draft pick. The only person you could even contemplate using your save on is Manny Fernandez and he wouldn't get saved in any other territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Boricua Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Wouldn't Harley Race be Central States? Then again, if he is NWA champ that does cut down notably on his availability to the territory. Besides me (still deciding on what my top 3 list would be), who has not yet posted their top 3 territory preferences? I've got the following so far (let me know if i missed someone's listed choices): 1. Grimmas - Montreal, Toronto, Florida 2. Kris Zellner - GCW, JCP, Florida 3. Beast - JCP, WCCW, PNW 4. Cross Face Chicken Wing - AWA, Mid-South, PNW 5. JerryvonKramer - WWF, Mid-South, GCW 6. Jesse Ewiak - WCCW, PNW, Southwest 7. DylanWaco 8. goc - Southwest, Florida, Montreal 9. El Boricua 10. dedhemingway 11. Boon - Southeastern, Memphis (CWA), PNW 12. dkookypunk43 13. dawho5 - GCW, Mid-South, Stampede 14. TravJ1979 - Memphis (CWA), GCW, WWF 15. Flyin Brian - ICW, Southeastern, Stampede 16. Peachchaos - Memphis (CWA), ?,? 17. RockinCrypt - Mid-South, ICW, PNW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Race is NWA champ yes so he is working everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Ewiak Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 WCCW, PNW, Southwest for me, but I'm open to anything if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravJ1979 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 In regards to draft coordination, I like the idea that once the order is determined just put a clock (12 hours?) on the pick and if no pick is made within the allotted time, it is made for you via random draw of remaining wrestlers. Before draft I would also like a complete list of available talent. Doesn't necessarily have to be broken up by promotion since that won't matter once the draft gets going. Looking at the earlier list, why is Terry Funk in retired if we are starting July 1? Wasn't his first in late August? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Terry Funk worked the AJPW retirement tour and that's it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I saw for In regards to draft coordination, I like the idea that once the order is determined just put a clock (12 hours?) on the pick and if no pick is made within the allotted time, it is made for you via random draw of remaining wrestlers. Before draft I would also like a complete list of available talent. Doesn't necessarily have to be broken up by promotion since that won't matter once the draft gets going. Looking at the earlier list, why is Terry Funk in retired if we are starting July 1? Wasn't his first in late August? Pick in order and you have 10 hours to pick if it is your turn. Once you pick, the next person has 10 hours. If you miss the ten hours then you can pick asap, but others can go on. Just like the NFL draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Boricua Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 We're going to have to clear up before the draft which wrestlers have Japanese commitments and which ones (if any) would be freelancers where you have to ask for dates. Although I think there is an almost complete overlap of the guys one would think of as freelancers and the ones with Japanese commitments. Maybe it would make sense just to have them be draftable and any dates would be worked out with the person who has the wrestler? Or maybe set up where they rotate within a few set territories and that could switch every certain amount of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 New Japan started a tour on 7/1/83 Abdullah the Butcher Adrian Adonis Brian Blair Dick Murdoch Tiger Chung Lee Paul Orndorff (7/22 - 8/4) All-Japan started a tour on 7/8/83 Alexis Smirnoff Gypsy Joe Jerry Oates Terry Funk Nick Bockwinkel Gerry Morrow Tiger Jeet Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Boricua Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Thanks Kris! I actually thought it would have been more wrestlers than that. What are the end dates for these tours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Does anyone want to book All Japan? That would be a more interesting way to decide who is and isn't going on tours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Does anyone want to book All Japan? That would be a more interesting way to decide who is and isn't going on tours. Yeah, we have enough people to expand to NJ and AJ and that can decide tours well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 GCW, Mid-South and Stampede would be my picks for promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Both tours ended on 8/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Here is what I am thinking for rules. Let's use this as a base and hammer out if there are any disagreements. Start Date: July 1, 1983 (July 1, 2015) We follow the days and months of our year, but subtract 32 from the years. So you post your card from July 4, 1983 on July 4, 2015 and so on. Holidays can be from this year, no need to look up what day Thanksgiving was in 1983 and use the one from 2015. Picking a promotion: 1) Everybody puts in a top 3 list and I try to make it fair, if there is any conflict there will be a discussion between the parties in conflict. 2) You get the owner, announcers and referees from that promotion. 3) You get to take one talent from that original roster onto yours. Whether a manager or wrestler. If you want a tag team, then you forfeit your first round pick. Picking your Talent: 1) There will be a snaked draft from the remaining available talent. 2) It will be done on the board. 3) Once a pick is made, the person on the clock has 10 hours to pick. if they miss their 10 hours then the next person can pick and the person who missed their pick can insert their pick ASAP (like the NFL draft, put 10 hours instead of 6 minutes) 4) If you pick a tag team you forfeit your next pick. 5) You can pick any available talent (ie everyone on the list, minus the freelancers). 6) Draft goes until all talent is picked or people drop out (Maybe a max roster of 40?) The Talent and Booking: 1) Booking a weekly TV show is a must and any other house shows or major events you want are bonus. 2) The NWA Champion starts as Harley Race and he will remain Champion until every player who is a part of the NWA votes to change him. 3) Every player apart of the NWA can work together to determine dates on the NWA Champion. 4) Japan tours will be the same as what actually happened, so if that wrestler is on your roster you just can't use them while they are on tour. 5) NWA members can work together for trades and sharing talent, if wanted. 6) Any other trades can happen, but must be agreed upon by both players. Freelancers: This one is where we are unsure, I propose that that each freelancer is drafted out each month and get 1 month contracts. 6-Month Updates: 1) At the end of 6 months any unactive promotions or rosters are up for grabs. 2) There will be a re-distribution draft where each player can protect 10 guys and everybody else is entered into a new draft. 3) Players can switch promotions at this point, if wanted. 4) Optional: Each roster has one wrestler taken off of it through a random drawing. Injuries: 1) Every month there is a random wrestler injured a random amount of time (ie promotions are numbered and a random number generator pick the promotion, then talent is numbered and a random number generator determines the wrestler, then a dice is rolled to determine how many months they are injured for). So, this is my proposal of rules. Other options are at the six month point there is a poll to determine the order of picks based on past performance. Also, if promotions not apart of the NWA wants to share champions they can. Titles, how shows are booked, etc... are all determined by player. This is my proposal, we can debate any of this and go from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCrypt Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Looks like a good basis to start from. One question I do have. How are future events away from the ring going to be handled? I'm talking deaths, career ending injuries etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Looks like a good basis to start from. One question I do have. How are future events away from the ring going to be handled? I'm talking deaths, career ending injuries etc. I think injuries we handle how we outline and maybe make a very improbably dice roll for there to be a death. Like roll 3 dice and if it comes up 666 then that person dies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCrypt Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Looks like a good basis to start from. One question I do have. How are future events away from the ring going to be handled? I'm talking deaths, career ending injuries etc. I think injuries we handle how we outline and maybe make a very improbably dice roll for there to be a death. Like roll 3 dice and if it comes up 666 then that person dies?I was mainly talking about real life stuff like Magnum's accident or any wrestler who may have died during this period going forward. Do they still happen when we reach those dates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Looks like a good basis to start from. One question I do have. How are future events away from the ring going to be handled? I'm talking deaths, career ending injuries etc.I think injuries we handle how we outline and maybe make a very improbably dice roll for there to be a death. Like roll 3 dice and if it comes up 666 then that person dies?I was mainly talking about real life stuff like Magnum's accident or any wrestler who may have died during this period going forward. Do they still happen when we reach those dates? I like the idea of Magnum not having to retire in 1986. However, if people want to stick to the book I will accept it. What do people want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Here is what I am thinking for rules. Let's use this as a base and hammer out if there are any disagreements. Start Date: July 1, 1983 (July 1, 2015) We follow the days and months of our year, but subtract 32 from the years. So you post your card from July 4, 1983 on July 4, 2015 and so on. Holidays can be from this year, no need to look up what day Thanksgiving was in 1983 and use the one from 2015. Picking a promotion: 1) Everybody puts in a top 3 list and I try to make it fair, if there is any conflict there will be a discussion between the parties in conflict. 2) You get the owner, announcers and referees from that promotion. 3) You get to take one talent from that original roster onto yours. Whether a manager or wrestler. If you want a tag team, then you forfeit your first round pick. Picking your Talent: 1) There will be a snaked draft from the remaining available talent. 2) It will be done on the board. 3) Once a pick is made, the person on the clock has 10 hours to pick. if they miss their 10 hours then the next person can pick and the person who missed their pick can insert their pick ASAP (like the NFL draft, put 10 hours instead of 6 minutes) 4) If you pick a tag team you forfeit your next pick. 5) You can pick any available talent (ie everyone on the list, minus the freelancers). 6) Draft goes until all talent is picked or people drop out (Maybe a max roster of 40?) The Talent and Booking: 1) Booking a weekly TV show is a must and any other house shows or major events you want are bonus. 2) The NWA Champion starts as Harley Race and he will remain Champion until every player who is a part of the NWA votes to change him. 3) Every player apart of the NWA can work together to determine dates on the NWA Champion. 4) Japan tours will be the same as what actually happened, so if that wrestler is on your roster you just can't use them while they are on tour. 5) NWA members can work together for trades and sharing talent, if wanted. 6) Any other trades can happen, but must be agreed upon by both players. Freelancers: This one is where we are unsure, I propose that that each freelancer is drafted out each month and get 1 month contracts. 6-Month Updates: 1) At the end of 6 months any unactive promotions or rosters are up for grabs. 2) There will be a re-distribution draft where each player can protect 10 guys and everybody else is entered into a new draft. 3) Players can switch promotions at this point, if wanted. 4) Optional: Each roster has one wrestler taken off of it through a random drawing. Injuries: 1) Every month there is a random wrestler injured a random amount of time (ie promotions are numbered and a random number generator pick the promotion, then talent is numbered and a random number generator determines the wrestler, then a dice is rolled to determine how many months they are injured for). So, this is my proposal of rules. Other options are at the six month point there is a poll to determine the order of picks based on past performance. Also, if promotions not apart of the NWA wants to share champions they can. Titles, how shows are booked, etc... are all determined by player. This is my proposal, we can debate any of this and go from here. I like all of this. A couple things: 1. People don't have to wait for their exact time to draft. If they're scheduled to pick at 6 p.m., but everyone in front of them has their picks in by 4 p.m., the person set for 6 p.m. can make their pick. That's probably obvious to everyone, but I've been in fantasy leagues where people think they have to wait until their time, so I wanted to highlight it 2. I don't mind the freelance monthly draft, but I'll still propose that we put someone in charge of the freelancers to give them a personality similar to what they had in real life. I like the idea of working with Brody and arguing with him over a finish. Or going back and forth with Terry Funk to try and get him to come back to my territory after I pissed him off because of how he was booked last time. Teaming up with other promoters to blackball a freelancer might also be fun. Hell, I might even consider giving up my promotion and running the freelancers if we go this route! 3. I say to keep the fantasy aspect of things, we don't kill off wrestlers or end their careers based on real-life injuries or deaths. But we should have something that increases a wrestler's odds of dying/injury after the date of their real-life death/injury. For example: After the date of Magnum's accident, whichever promotion Magnum is in has to roll the dice five times instead of once to see if he gets injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 1. Good point to make it clear. You have 10 hours to pick from the time the person before you picks, not from any set time. Keep checking the thread once the draft starts. I choose ten hours so nobody can miss there pick from sleeping or work. I don't assume too many people will use that time frame though. 2. A player that is in charge of the freelancers and not a promotion seems interesting. That player decides where the freelancers wrestles and refuses jobs and if it is jobbed won't go back to that promotion. I'm not sure how it would work, but I'm intrigued. 3. I like your thoughts on death and injuries. It just gives increase probability, not set in stone deal. I will gladly be in charge of deaths and injuries and use random number generators to keep it fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 7. DylanWaco 9. El Boricua 10. dedhemingway 12. dkookypunk43 16. Peachchaos - Memphis (CWA), ?,? We are waiting on you 5 to make your lists, before the promotions are dealt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I think we need to be true to deaths or career altering injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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