Loss Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I know there are some, but it seems like it would be a short list. I don't mean amusing or entertaining promos so much as I mean really good angles and promos that would hold up to past eras where the booking tended to be better and not look out of place. I come up with: - Jim Cornette promos in the ROH vs CZW feud - Some of the stuff in the Jericho-Michaels feud - Nexus invades - The Rock returns, builds to match with John Cena - CM Punk gets a pipe bomb - Daniel Bryan's journey to Wrestlemania 30 - A few isolated things from Paul Heyman - Brock Lesnar All Access-like segment to build to Cena match at Extreme Rules 2012 - Some Larry Sweeney stuff What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think the Summer of Punk stuff in 2005 ROH was pretty good. He won the belt, signed his WWE contract on it and threatened to take it with him. He was tapping into the same animosities and dynamics he would later with the pipebomb, but from the opposite direction. He kept winning matches smart fans thought they had pegged, too. They swerved the audience pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 JESUS STRAIGHT EDGE SOCIETY PUNK was all time great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 The Eddie feud with Rey Jr. was great too. The heel turn was a great great angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Steen's run to destroy ROH and Jim Cornette was something I really liked, but mostly kind of the first half of it, when Steen was really coming into the evil character he has been working around since then. I thought some of his promos were great and just the sort of moments he would create really stood out. Some of it was over the top and I wasn't as big a fan of it later when it moved into the SCUM stuff (though I admittedly haven't seen as much of it), but Steen vs ROH/Jimmy was pretty great and that kind of intensity and slow burn can really translate well across time I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Eddy/Rey worked and I did like the matches, but the idea of child custody being decided in a ladder match ... I get that they were going for a telenovella vibe, and in that regard, they succeeded. I also thought everyone performed well, including Vicki and Dominic. Ah, what the hell, I've talked myself into it. It was over the top even for wrestling, but it was by design and managed to appeal to a wider audience going that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimArg Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Brock Lesnar using a sombrero and dancing with mariachis in his feud with Eddie Guerrero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 For GREAT stuff? Not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingears Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 - Brock Lesnar All Access-like segment to build to Cena match at Extreme Rules 2012Do you mean the match at Summerslam? If not, they did one for the match at Summerslam that I really enjoyed. Mark Henry did a great retirement promo that felt like something out of a different era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 For GREAT stuff? Not much. Come now, there has been plenty. A few off the top of my head: Kurt Angle entering TNA and the face to faces with Samoa Joe over the weeks was the best work TNA has put out, they really got that right initially. Mark Henry's fake retirement speech. Nexus initial debut tearing apart the ring and taking out the stars. The mini OTT heel run of Shawn Michaels in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think the Summer of Punk stuff in 2005 ROH was pretty good. He won the belt, signed his WWE contract on it and threatened to take it with him. He was tapping into the same animosities and dynamics he would later with the pipebomb, but from the opposite direction. He kept winning matches smart fans thought they had pegged, too. They swerved the audience pretty well. Agreed, this is the best ROH promo and angle work over one storyline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTLL Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 The Eddie feud with Rey Jr. was great too. The heel turn was a great great angle. Highly underrated. I think a lot of people wrote it off at the time as silly, which is an odd complaint in wrestling and totally without context besides. Of course it was silly, it was some madcap telenovela stuff that Eddie and Rey wrote themselves to appeal to the Latinos who made up a huge and growing part of SmackDown's audience then. Loss said this more or less, I should read the whole thread next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 - Brock Lesnar All Access-like segment to build to Cena match at Extreme Rules 2012Do you mean the match at Summerslam? If not, they did one for the match at Summerslam that I really enjoyed. Mark Henry did a great retirement promo that felt like something out of a different era. No, there was a segment on Raw two weeks before Extreme Rules 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 The one with Cena being scared pissless? Jesus that was amazing. Some have already been said, so others off the top of my head: - Early SES Punk with him shaving people's heads - The MVP & Matt Hardy rivalry and then uneasy tag team - Some of The Miz's promos in his U.S. Champ era, particularly the one where he starts in the back and ends up in the ring talking about locker room bullies - The entire Shawn vs Jericho feud - The entire Foley vs Orton feud, particularly Foley's money promo in Hershey after returning - The entire Trish & Mickie angle from Mickie's debut to Trish's injury - Edge's Joker period before facing Undertaker at Summerslam 2008. Hokey, but I enjoyed it. - Foley's promo on Edge during the same period - The Bray Wyatt vignettes - Daniel Bryan's heel turn in late 2011-early 2012 with the AJ stuff - Team Hell No skits and antics - Randy Orton as the killer who punts people into death in early 2009 (before they fucked that up) - Punk turning heel on Jeff Hardy in 2009 and that whole feud - The Angle vs Eddie feud in early 2004, especially watch the one where Angle comes out silently taping his fists to beat the shit out of a handcuffed Eddie - The UFC-style promos for the Cena/Lashley match - Jeff Hardy's meteoric rise in popularity in late 2007/early 2008, watch some of those video packages they did for him - Kane's promos for the Undertaker "vegetative state" angle. Again, a hokey angle but he did really well with it. - The Jericho vs Rey mask feud in 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ship Canal Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Another shout for Mark Henry's fake retirement speech. Masterful stuff. I happen to think the Cena/Henry program was deceptively strong, even I outside the Henry retirement angle it was more solid than spectacular. But yeah, that Angle was superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ship Canal Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Oh, also, Brock's "blood, urine and vomit" promo directed towards Cena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Thought the angle with Orton punting Shane and RKO'ing Steph building towards his Mania match with Hunter was really, really strong. Came off the rails sooner rather than later and the match itself wasn't exactly hot, but we hadn't seen anyone get heat on Steph like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Steen's "retirement" promo and subsequent turn on El Generico at ROH Final Battle 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I was a mega-mark for Kevin Nash and Alex Shelley's skits in TNA, though, it kinda got worse the more other X-Divisioners got involved. Probably the only TNA I would put on this list, but I'll admit I hardly watched the promotion regularly at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'd have said that too only Loss said no comedy. If we're including comedy, Teddy Long & Krystal's wedding on Smackdown is like the greatest comedy segment ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Every single thing that Jeff G. Bailey has spoken into a microphone over that span of time, for promos. Most of the other really good Wildside promos were comedic, like Seth Delay/Sal Rinauro's acts. The IWS Bloodstream legacy will be the segments featuring Beef Wellington & El Generico that were almost all pure comedy, but Franky the Mobster cut some exceptional "violently insane" promos that often were funny but suitably convincing that he was pretty unhinged. "Early" Jon Moxley stuff is in a similar vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Most everything involving the Shield as a stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 What are their promos and angles? I can't recall any, just matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Is this just American stuff? Cause I'll add the Konnan/Stacy Colon angle from WWC and the Apaches/Billy Boy feud from AAA. I haven't seen much of the Konnan angle except when he hit Stacy in the head with a guitar and it almost caused a riot. The Billy Boy feud is great with him falling in love with Fabi, having a kid, Gran apache goes nuts and Super Calo of all people showing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 How do people feel about Flair's retirement run in WWE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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