Luchaundead Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I'm pretty sure about 90% of my ballot have already dropped off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I wonder if I'm the high vote on Cota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Dynamite Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Holy hell... Two days away from the board and there's litterally hundreds of posts in just the thread on honourable mentions. So many that a brand new thread was created. Way to go! To those who believe that this poll should have been kept exclusive and only for a certain few invites, this level of activity totally justifies the open vote to me. Too bad that those select few who have seen the light and know excactly what makes up a great wrestler can't control the vote by deciding that only those who agree gets a say ;-) And don't worry, the "consensus" strong anti-WWF 85-96 bias will still shine through in the eventual top 100, I'm sure. You can sleep safely at night knowing that the rest of us heathens without good taste won't end up staining the shrine too badly  As long as it's within reason, I also love the passion when people love or hate other voters choices. The only comments I have found idiotic is when people say that voters have misunderstood the point of this list, or that voting for someone almost invalidates the entire thing. Grimmas & Co. made a very conscious effort to say from the start that what makes a wrestler great is up to each voter to figure out for themselves. I know it's been discussed to death, but I've never officially heard this list described as a best worker ever list (whatever then defines "work"). So fuck off for attacking whatever criteria people have set for themselves. ... That's not the same as saying we can't laugh at, comment on or critique someones choices :-) That debate is part of the fun, and has resulted in one of my personal high points so far: mrzfn making his case for ranking Quack so high ... From the 2-3 matches I've seen with him, I probably wouldn't consider him any higher than about #350, but mrzfn made the case so well and honestly that I completely buy his high ranking of the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKWebb Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Austin Idol @99 was my first and only to drop so far... Hoping I'm the high vote for someone so I finally have a reason to update my avatar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I'm kind of surprised that Dean Ambrose was only on 2 more ballots than Roman Reigns. That's good though because I really don't think Dean is better than Roman. Â I keep waiting for Mocho Cota to drop. How on earth did he get such a crazily high ranking? Clearly from how many people voted for Superstar Graham, Adrian Street & Kamala a lot of people are voting for people who were very good at portraying their characters. That clearly favors a guy like Mocha Cota who isn't exactly the shits in the workrate department like Graham or Ultimate Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I love Cota as much as the next guy, but his ranking is based on two matches against a guy who didn't even get nominated (iirc) and a bunch of OK stuff after he got out of prison. Porky seems too high as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Myers did okay. He's in some pretty decent company. Cortez hasn't dropped yet, has he? That surprises me. I keep thinking I'm gonna cry into my cornflakes over Grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I guess we have a very different definition of "ok" when we're talking about the Casas/Cota hair match and the Casas/Dandy vs. Cota/Silver King tag match then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Dynamite Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016  Right now there are about 180 wrestlers listed where I'd gladly sacrifice every single bit of footage they have on tape if it means I could watch more Takeshi Ono matches. By any metric the guy kicks the shit out of anyone else listed. Except maybe Lizmark. Lizmark rules. The challenge I posted in his thread still stands: name a wrestler with a better Top 10 matches.  Average vote of 70 for Rick Steiner is nuts. I mean, placing him at 99 when you really need to fill out your ballot, that's fine, but the time spent on this project could have been used to find better talent. This is the type of response that I find infuriating. Where's the rule that says there are certain workers everyone should have and if they dont, they are lesser fans or something? I didn't rank any non NA wrestlers because even though ive seen a fair share of non US work, it still pales to my exposure of guys like Steiner.  And I really dig his style. Hard hitting, throws, clotheslines, all of it. I'd rather watch a Steiner match than almost anything else. So yeah, he's a top 100, for me personally.  Guys need to lighten up and stop bashing other people's likes and dislikes. Get over the fact that some of us are the equivalent of "Shawshank Redemption" or "Star Wars" is the best film of all time wrestling fans.   Yes! Yes! Yes! I agree with the Beast! (And I have a number of non-US wrestlers on my list, I don't have Rick Steiner near my list and I would take "Star Wars" over "Shawshank" and would also argue its merits from an artistic point of view even though they're both great). Debating and critiquing other's choices, cool. Bashing people's likes and dislikes? As Beast says: Lighten up and get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Damn Haku made a lot more ballots than I would have thought. I fucking loved him in the King Tonga stuff I've seen from Montreal. If he'd have been that guy his whole career he could have finished in my top 25. As Haku/Meng I just didn't feel there was enough there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 That photo of Clive Myers is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I guess we have a very different definition of "ok" when we're talking about the Casas/Cota hair match and the Casas/Dandy vs. Cota/Silver King tag match then. Â "Ok" is a massive upgrade over how old-man Cota was viewed back in the day, but that apuesta match in particular I didn't really care for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Whoo-hoo! An avatar (to come later) for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Myers did okay. He's in some pretty decent company. Cortez hasn't dropped yet, has he? That surprises me. I keep thinking I'm gonna cry into my cornflakes over Grey. Â Clive is my first man down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topropepodcast Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Now I wish my lowest ranked top vote was Haku. That would be a great avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Â I guess we have a very different definition of "ok" when we're talking about the Casas/Cota hair match and the Casas/Dandy vs. Cota/Silver King tag match then. Â "Ok" is a massive upgrade over how old-man Cota was viewed back in the day, but that apuesta match in particular I didn't really care for. Â The people back in the day sure had a narrow-minded view of what lucha could be. Reading some of the WONs from the time are painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I had Jannetty at #81. So many good comebacks during the 90's. He deserved a better career. Don't do drugs. Oh, and I pondered about putting him ahead of Michaels. In the end, he's below, but not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Crackers Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 It confuses me that there may be people who voted for Cota but not for Super Astro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I think I had the most boring ballot, no one from my top 100 has shown up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Not surprised to see Ricochet drop this early (his career is still on the upswing), but I am a little surprised to see Homicide this low. Is this a case of "out of sight, out of mind"? He has been AWOL from the larger feds more often than not over the past five years or so. He took almost all of 2015 off, and has only had five matches since returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Dynamite Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Damn Haku made a lot more ballots than I would have thought. I fucking loved him in the King Tonga stuff I've seen from Montreal. If he'd have been that guy his whole career he could have finished in my top 25. As Haku/Meng I just didn't feel there was enough there. Right on! I did like Haku/Meng, but agree that there's not enough there to crack this list, but the Montreal stuff is cool (the little I've seen). Also like this one against Rick Martel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2xBpHFnXAI Not sure it's from Montreal, but it's a cool, short match :-) ... Happy where I have Martel, and not quite enough to make me rank Haku, but I totally understand those who did rank him :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Terry Taylor at 16 is almost as "holy shit" as Quack at 6 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 That Ricochet picture though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Dynamite Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 :D Scarlet-Left... The Red Rooster at #16? I love your list! It looks nothing like mine, but that's fucking awesome! I've tried so hard to get to like Terry Taylor, but my eyelids just get too damn heavy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 That Ricochet picture though.... People seem to forget his early career with crazy hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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