Loss Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 That thread blew my mind, but I didn't have time to respond to it. Martel blows away Davey Boy, but most of Martel's best happened outside the WWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I was really disappointed that Harlem Heat ended his career in 98. He would've been comeback wrestler of the year if he had wrestled for more than 2 months. Just an amazing string of matches from a guy that had shown nothing in the ring since 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Didn't he blow out his knee in that triple threat match with Booker T and Saturn for the TV title? And wasn't it just one of those things, rather than somebody else causing the injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Martel did blow out his knee, but his career was ended by a Stevie Ray botching a move and injuring his neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alfdogg Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 IIRC, he tore his ACL in a match with Booker, then in his first match back against Stevie Ray, injured his neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bravesfan Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Martel did blow out his knee, but his career was ended by a Stevie Ray botching a move and injuring his neck. When did that second injury occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alfdogg Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Sometime in the summer of '98 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 I love DBS as much as the next guy but why is that even up for debate? Â If you pick up any 3-5 episodes of AJ Classics with Martel featured, they wouldn't even entertain the idea of having DBS and Martel in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 When I saw that match with Martel (then AWA World Champ) and Flair (then NWA World Champ) as a team against Jumbo and Tenryu I was blown away by how good Martel was. As a Canadian, I was used to seeing him in boring matches with Dino Bravo and bloody brawls with Abdullah, both from Montreal, and of course his run as "The Model." I want to get some more Martel from AJPW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 His run as WWF tag champ with Tony Garea in 1980 gets little love as well. In fact most WWF from 80 up till Hogan pinned the Shiek seems to have been forgotten due to being the valley between the end of the 70s and the beginning of Hulkamania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Hot off the presses from DVDVR: Â All the Kurt Angle stories/rumors are BS, and if you happen to notice his rapid physical decline then you're being ghoulish and cheering for his demise. Â And with that, I go to sleep before I punch my monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 I mentioned it earlier but the net denial over Angle's condition is pathetic. These same people would be crying about how unexpected it was, etc. if he suddenly died too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hogan says that he fell off the ski, it then somehow managed to magically pick up speed and hit him in the face at 2000 MPH.Did you hold down "0" too long, or did he really say that? I read his book, but I can't remember what he said. I do think he said that it was B. Brian Blair that pulled him out of the water, though. I was exagerating. If you'd like I will transcribe the story from his book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Credit : PWInsider Elite  We got some news from one of our sources that one of the proposed endings to the Batista and Melina's sexual harrassment angle was to have Melina revealed as being a transvestite. But Stephanie was against it and feared that it would ruin Melina's career.  Wouldn't this ruin Batista more though? It would not be cool to reveal the calm, cool, and collected champ had sex with a tranny, now would it? You kind of can't help but notice that she is a he, you know. I was thinking the exact same thing.  I wonder if anybody in that company remembers 1999? Getting head from a tranny didn't exactly make Mark Henry's career take off. One could only assume that fucking one would hurt Batista's image just a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted January 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Lou Thesz thought Stu Hart was a bit of a bully for the way he'd lure people who couldn't defend themselves down to the Dungeon and show them grappling holds. "Stu was great at demonstrating holds on willing participants and those without wrestling training, but not in getting the top guys in them." Â Thoughts on that? That's a completely different viewpoint from what I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cam Chaos Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Â Lou Thesz thought Stu Hart was a bit of a bully for the way he'd lure people who couldn't defend themselves down to the Dungeon and show them grappling holds. "Stu was great at demonstrating holds on willing participants and those without wrestling training, but not in getting the top guys in them." Â Thoughts on that? That's a completely different viewpoint from what I've heard. I've not heard of Stu Hart being much of a "hooker" like Thesz, Gotch and or Lewis and considering all the tales of him working people over are indeed those of wrestlers that wanted to train with him rather than well trained wrestlers I think there may be some truth to Thesz's claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 I've really been enjoying the James Gang/Latin American Exchange angle. I basically can't stand any of the workers in the angle other than Homicide but it's been booked really well. Konnan and BG James have cut some excellent promos the last couple of Impacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 I always thought it was a bit creepy hearing Bret talk about hearing guys scream in the basement as if it was a normal noise like a banging furnace. Â I guess Stu thought it was a good way to nip any potential ego problems in the bud, and you can't argue with the level of talent in the guys who've been in the Dungeon, but I can't help but think Thesz has a point about it not being too sporting to stretch the piss out of newbs just for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Funniest news item of the day, although at the rate WWE is going, they'll top themselves before midnight. Â From Meltzer: Â --WWE is looking for a new head of interactive programming to oversee all aspects of wwe.com. The position will manage all online content, content plan, management and development of a new distinctive tone for editorials. Interesting. I guess Vince realized that WWE.com going all shooty has a downside when they start leaking things that the company would rather them not leak. Too rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 I am really enjoying all the different viewpoints on wrestlers and wrestling matches lately in terms of quality. There are not as many matches these day where a match is definitely 2 stars or definitely 4 stars with little leeway. There is more leeway today than a few years ago and I love it because there never has been and never should be a mathamatical formula to figure out how good or bad a wrestling match is. There are too many variables combined with too many feelings on what belongs in a wrestling ring to be able to do that. Â Though some people have really made me scratch my head lately. But I enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godthedog Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 i tuned in to the angle/hbk match on raw tonight on & off. serves me right i guess. i know angle's never been the best at stringing spots together, but when did he get so terrible at it? complete turd of a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cam Chaos Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Angle's attempts at ring psychology went when he lost his hair. Then he got all angry and shit and started screaming in all his interviews and wanting Sharmell even though she looks like a horse. Bald shouty Kurt sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 i tuned in to the angle/hbk match on raw tonight on & off. serves me right i guess. i know angle's never been the best at stringing spots together, but when did he get so terrible at it? complete turd of a match. Agree on the quality, or lack thereof. Although there's a bit of unintentional humour there, as it kinda looked like Shawn wanted to do another of his "bad back" psychology matches, with Angle's lack-of-psychology saving us from that. Nevertheless, boring match. I never thought I'd say this, but I made a mistake watching the John Cena DVD (of all things) before RAW. Even Cena DVD smokes RAW. Albeit, the Cena-Eddie match on that disc ain't bad. For matches where one guy is clearly outperforming the other and trying to hide both the other guy's weaknesses and make a good match out of it, it isn't as good as Bret-Yoko from WM9. But Eddie made a damn good effort. I wonder if Cena misses working with guys like that on Smackdown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheShawshankRudotion Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 There's a Cena DVD?! Â Does it have Cena vs. Benoit on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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