KawadaSmile Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 @sek69 bumping at a young age can never ammount to good things, even moreso if she's trying to make this a long term career. The body isn't fully developed at that point to handle even "normal" bumps like those. At age twelve, flatback bumps in what essentially are wooden boards is not a good idea. And when you take in consideration that she's training in Chasyn Rance's gym, it is even worse for more disgusting reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 She's 12. No one that age is "trying to make this a long term career", nor should be. That's child exploitation, basically, like parents putting their childs through stupid beauty pagents and shit. I'm sure she's having a blast *now*, but still, this is unhealthy as fuck (and yeah, "meet and greet", really ?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mad Dog Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 53 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: @sek69 bumping at a young age can never ammount to good things, even moreso if she's trying to make this a long term career. The body isn't fully developed at that point to handle even "normal" bumps like those. At age twelve, flatback bumps in what essentially are wooden boards is not a good idea. And when you take in consideration that she's training in Chasyn Rance's gym, it is even worse for more disgusting reasons. They did remove her from Rance's gym I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, KawadaSmile said: @sek69 bumping at a young age can never ammount to good things, even moreso if she's trying to make this a long term career. The body isn't fully developed at that point to handle even "normal" bumps like those. At age twelve, flatback bumps in what essentially are wooden boards is not a good idea. I have been doing Judo from the age of 8 to 13 and probably have taken 100s of "bumps" (mostly weaker once, but some hard enough that it took my breath away for a couple of seconds) in that time and never had any issues (and neither had anybody else I know) so I doubt that a single (gentle) bump will have any negative effect. Not having seen the bump that is referenced here, mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Has she done anything other than take what appeared to be a very light chokeslam bump? The video I saw doesn't seem to warrant the outrage at all. Now training with Rance? That would warrant some outrage. His continued involvement in wrestling should warrant more outrage IMO. Practically everyone who ever wrestled in Mexico started at a very early age and on much harder rings in most cases. I don't see there being much evidence of bumping being any more or less dangerous at that age than any other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, sek69 said: Has she done anything other than take what appeared to be a very light chokeslam bump? The way her head bounces on the mat, I'm sorry but I wouldn't call that "very light bump", especially for a 12 year old girl. It's just plain stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 There are so many things wrong with this I can't begin. First from a child development perspective, more and more coaches and professionals are saying it is not safe to have children involved in full contact sports until 7th or 8th grade at the earliest, maybe even 9th grade. Second having her trained by somebody like Chasyn Rance or whatever that creeps name is might be tantamount to child endangerment or neglect. As somebody who works in the public school system and has coached youth and high school sports I find this whole situation very, very disturbing. I'm not even going to go into what a terrible idea it is to promote a grown man harming a little girl as a form of entertainment. It makes some of the bullshit ECW used to do seem like wholesome fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibSuperstar Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 How much footage of the Capitol Wrestling Corporation era does WWE have available I wonder. It'd be great to see any on the Network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 48 minutes ago, LibSuperstar said: How much footage of the Capitol Wrestling Corporation era does WWE have available I wonder. It'd be great to see any on the Network. Allegedly there's a lot of it, including the only surviving footage of anything that aired on the old DuMont network. The issue as I've always heard is that WWE doesn't deem it broadcast worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Customer calling in to my work upset that All In (which he referred to as Starrcade WCW vs WWE) isn't going to be available on the WWE Network. Which is funny, since my place of work is not the WWE Network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxnj Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Is it so hard to show a video of the bump in question before going off on a tangent about it, people? It's probably not a good idea for a 12 year old to take a flat-back bump. Just like it's probably not a good idea to to enroll them in kids' class for other contact sports like judo, BJJ, muay thai, etc. as countless gyms around the world are offering. At the end of the day there's a limit to how much control parents have in stopping their kids from doing something stupid on their own accord, especially if they're dead-set on doing said stupid thing. It's better to have them learn it in a professional environment with adult supervision over doing some backyard shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southofheavy Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 She's got no business in the ring. She has no business doing meet and greets. The promotion and training school have no business making money off of her. Chasyn Rance has no business being within five miles of her. The promotion and training school have no business being involved with Chasyn Rance. The parents have no business allowing their child to train to be a professional wrestler and it's obvious they didn't do their diligence. If they insist on letting her train, avoid the place that employs a known sex offender who targets teenagers. It's a scumbag move on the part of the training school and the promotion and a wildly irresponsible move on the part of her parents. I dove off the arm of the couch onto a jobber named Peter Pillow when I was six and wrassled around with my friends in backyards. My cousin Jerry sprained my left arm with an armbar on Christmas Eve, so I got hurt even with adult supervision. I would've crawled into the ring without hesitation if afforded the opportunity and I know I'd try to run the ropes and take bumps. I highly doubt my parents would've gone for that if they were around and they would've been right. Cry as I would have, it would have had to wait at least until I could drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibSuperstar Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 8 hours ago, sek69 said: Allegedly there's a lot of it, including the only surviving footage of anything that aired on the old DuMont network. The issue as I've always heard is that WWE doesn't deem it broadcast worthy. Figured that was the reason. Really a shame b/c it's a fascinating period. Even funnier when you consider a Thesz match in TX is in the Hidden Gems section and he was more of a NWA guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingFan Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 There are rules in some boards. On this one, there aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Hall Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 More to the point, who is she and why is she a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 The problem with the Izzy bump is that you shouldn’t try to take that bump unless you’re trained. And eleven is too young to train for that. I just started my daughter in youth soccer. They don’t even allow heading until they reach 10-12 years of age. (Another comment that doesn’t warrant a thread: to become assistant coach I had to watch Heads Up training narrated by Chris Nowinski.) Honestly, if you’re that young and want to become a professional wrestler, learn the amateur sport. You’ll learn conditioning and basic drills that will help later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 9:05 PM, sek69 said: Customer calling in to my work upset that All In (which he referred to as Starrcade WCW vs WWE) isn't going to be available on the WWE Network. Which is funny, since my place of work is not the WWE Network. ... seriously? All of that happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 Who was the first person you can remember using the reverse DDT as a Finish? Jake the Snake & Adrian Adonis are the first I can remember using the normal DDT. But there might have been more before them that I'm unaware of. But the reverse DDT, I can remember Sting's Scorpion Death Drop during the Monday Night Wars, Henry Goddwinn using the "Slop Drop" & Skinner. Was there someone before Skinner or H.O.G.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 6:27 PM, Viking Hall said: More to the point, who is she and why is she a thing? She was a Bayley superfan who was front row at the NXT tapings and became known to the point she was used in angles (notably when Sasha mocked her when she beat Bayley). 18 hours ago, Bix said: ... seriously? All of that happened? Yes, it was one of my co workers who got the call and I was able to figure out from context clues that it was one of our regulars who is permanently about 12 years old mentally due to a traumatic brain injury (not being snarky either, he tells the story of how it happened all the time). Of course he's a wrestling fan, and will talk your ear off forever if you let him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 The Bayley/Izzy connection was a happy accident. Bayley has told the story numerous times, but apparently she was hanging out at the curtain one night and saw Izzy (with her parents, also super fans) dressed like her. So Bayley took a quick pic & posted it. Instantly - like, before Bayley could put her phone down - the parents had already liked and retweeted it in that split second. It just grew from there - eventually reaching a peak with the two Sasha matches. You can *kind of* get the sense that her parents are these grimy, attention-starved people. But I don't know. I feel a little uncomfortable pretending to know anything about them. But yeah. With all these instances taken into account, it doesn't present them in the best light. Clearly lacking good common sense, at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 A Brazilian presidential candidate just got stabbed during his campaign, few days after saying he was going to gun down the opposition. This has nothing to do with wrestling but sometimes I feel like even the most outrageous booker couldn't come up with stuff this harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, KawadaSmile said: This has nothing to do with wrestling but sometimes I feel like even the most outrageous booker couldn't come up with stuff this harsh. That Jose Gonzalez booker guy sure did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Greatest, most punch-able chin in pro wrestling history? Slaughter? Ventura? Inoki? Vinnie Mac has that Travolta dimpled butt-chin thing happening. Am I missing anyone obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 4 hours ago, El-P said: That Jose Gonzalez booker guy sure did. Too bad Tony Atlas ruined the payoff by no showing his revenge angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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