El-P Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Meanwhile, it seems like everybody already forgot the reasons why Vince was ousted. The mere fact he's been back doing whatever he's doing is a complete joke to begin with. The backstage pet-talks and employee meetings is merely damage control in term of workers morale. Who in their right mind would believe any of what these individuals say ? Like, really now ? After WHY he was gone ? Apparently Kevin Dunn was part of that wonderful managerial brainwashing session too. Vince n°1 stooge having a say in any of this is yet another red flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 I'd feel like a real asshole if there had to be an all hands on deck meeting, helmed by my son-in-law, to make sure everyone knows I'm not going to be in charge to fuck everything up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Whoever gets the rights to the TV show that documents this madness is going to make a fucking fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 A legit (and by that I mean, with no WWE involvement at all), well documented, peak-HBO style TV-show about that entire story would be insane. As would a legit (same rules) movie about Vince. This is GoT shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 Any thoughts on the report from the Observer that FOX is losing $150m+ annually on having SmackDown? I plead ignorance on where these numbers are coming from or their validity, but I'm guessing that, pre-SmackDown, FOX was airing either repeats of shows they already owned (Gordon Ramsay shows, second-run movie "premieres") at way, way less money and were getting the same advertising revenue? If that's the case, this report might be the most damning thing to come out this week for WWE. Nobody is going to pay NFL prices for Master Chef: Kids Championship numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 I also plead ignorance on the matter, this is what Thurston had to say about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 Yeah not sure but from what I remember the cost of live production leads to big losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 hours ago, SirEdger said: Vince defers to him for the final say. So, how long can we buy that? Vince pulled a power-play/coup d'etat just so he could defer to someone? Yeah, nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 No shit he has already taken over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 At least she finally received some measure of justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 I hope Nick Khan explains us how it's a great move for WWE that Vince has paid off yet another woman who has accused him of rape, I really do. The amount of mental gymnastic would be uncanny valley level of cerebral twists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, El-P said: I hope Nick Khan explains us how it's a great move for WWE that Vince has paid off yet another woman who has accused him of rape, I really do. The amount of mental gymnastic would be uncanny valley level of cerebral twists. Vince must really be serious about selling. I saw a business report about the potential sale and one of the analysts was saying that pending lawsuits against the company could scare off any serious buyers. That’s great news for anybody who has a lawsuit already filed against WWE. Especially MLW, which is hilarious because apparently their lawsuit is transparent and flimsy. They could end up getting paid just to go away and not screw up the sale. Jerry McDevitt finally has an Achilles heel visible to everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 11 hours ago, The Thread Killer said: Especially MLW, which is hilarious because apparently their lawsuit is transparent and flimsy. They could end up getting paid just to go away and not screw up the sale. Jerry McDevitt finally has an Achilles heel visible to everybody. It's amazing how McDevitt has been neutered. The only reason they are still denying the rape accusations with Chatterton is because it's an old case and they had denied it back in the days. But apart from that, it's "Hey, take a whole lot of money please" with zero fight. Yeah, MLW getting a shitload of money because of all this would be hilarious. Them getting none would be even funnier though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 One thing is for sure, this entire deal really has exposed Nick Khan as a piece of shit lapdog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 It was pretty hilarious hearing Khan kiss Vince's ass on the Simmons podcast when he was part of the board that voted unanimously against bringing him back. By the way, his comments about how he always knew Vince would be back along with the Chatterton news make me wonder if his sabbatical wasn't in part so he could make hush money payments without having to put them on the company books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: It was pretty hilarious hearing Khan kiss Vince's ass on the Simmons podcast when he was part of the board that voted unanimously against bringing him back. By the way, his comments about how he always knew Vince would be back along with the Chatterton news make me wonder if his sabbatical wasn't in part so he could make hush money payments without having to put them on the company books. Well considering they’re maybe getting reamed for not disclosing those expenses because they provided a material benefit to the company, even if the money didn’t always come from the company coffers, I tend to think him being off the board doesn’t give him free license to make hush money payments, considering he was still the majority shareholder. Is it possible to characterize WWE as somewhat of a pump and dump scheme? Become a public company and get a bunch of outside investors bolstering the McMahon family’s personal fortunes on the basis of bloated media rights deals taking advantage of changes to the televisual marketplace in the wake of the rise of streaming and DVR, then sell it at a relative high point of its valuation just when it looks like the media rights fees are gonna take a big hit? That’s an extremely bloated sentence, but that story that Fox lost hundreds of millions of dollars broadcasting Smackdown was nuts to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 The one thing I learned the other day is that McMahon's family shares did not had the same voting power as other shares. How the fuck is that even legal ? Capitalism as a whole is just a fraud, but this entire WWE thing reeks more and more of ridiculously carny shit. Also, the one mystery question remains : who from the board leaked the story ? I'm guessing he/she ain't on the board anymore, but still. Who did it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, El-P said: The one thing I learned the other day is that McMahon's family shares did not had the same voting power as other shares. How the fuck is that even legal ? Capitalism as a whole is just a fraud, but this entire WWE thing reeks more and more of ridiculously carny shit. Also, the one mystery question remains : who from the board leaked the story ? I'm guessing he/she ain't on the board anymore, but still. Who did it ? In “The Age of Surveillance Capitalism”, Shoshanna Zuboff says Google exploded the use of split voting power stock offerings, which were comparatively rare before the 2000s, when they did their IPO, as the original founders wanted to remain in control of realizing their “vision”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 ESPN just posted their Rumble preview explicitly wondering if The Rock was coming back and while it was presented tongue in cheek, I’m not exactly living that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Meanwhile : https://news.bloomberglaw.com/esg/wwe-faces-new-suit-over-horrifying-vince-mcmahon-allegations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 This should be added to the Best Out of Seven thread, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: This should be added to the Best Out of Seven thread, it seems. It shouldn't have, but it made my legit laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 This is on pace to be stretched out even more than Bill and Ted's series of games with Death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Fucking LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 3, 2023 Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Damn. They could have had a giant fluorescent Black Mountain Dew (or whatever the fuck that brand was) on the ring canvas ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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