sek69 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Personally when I think of hateful Jim Ross commentary I think more of his burials of Paul Heyman as a manager, which were much more vicious and nasty. Was there any legit heat between those two? There were times when they were doing commentary together where it seemed that JR was getting pissed to the point I thought they were about to get into a fist fight on live TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Both swear there never was, that they were just doing their jobs. But who knows if they are telling the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Anyone listen to the AJ Styles Jim Ross podcast? He was extra, extra preachy/annoying/condensing during his opening preamble about the deficits of modern Wrestling and then extra, extra belligerent during the interview. On another forum someone dubbed it " JR gives AJ Styles a bunch of advice hour." He legitimately came off as drunk or other. He recently talked about his ambien but this sounded more like a drunk at the bar preaching about life to a young'un. In terms of AJ Styles the headline here was that he is treated so well he would be afraid of disrespecting New Japan by even entertaining a TNA currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Anyone listen to the AJ Styles Jim Ross podcast? He was extra, extra preachy/annoying/condensing during his opening preamble about the deficits of modern Wrestling and then extra, extra belligerent during the interview. On another forum someone dubbed it " JR gives AJ Styles a bunch of advice hour." He legitimately came off as drunk or other. He recently talked about his ambien but this sounded more like a drunk at the bar preaching about life to a young'un. In terms of AJ Styles the headline here was that he is treated so well he would be afraid of disrespecting New Japan by even entertaining a TNA currently. Or he's probably making more money doing Japan and indy dates without the depressing non-existent TNA house show audiences to work in front of. But that wouldn't be a very PC thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Anyone listen to the AJ Styles Jim Ross podcast? He was extra, extra preachy/annoying/condensing during his opening preamble about the deficits of modern Wrestling and then extra, extra belligerent during the interview. On another forum someone dubbed it " JR gives AJ Styles a bunch of advice hour." He legitimately came off as drunk or other. He recently talked about his ambien but this sounded more like a drunk at the bar preaching about life to a young'un. In terms of AJ Styles the headline here was that he is treated so well he would be afraid of disrespecting New Japan by even entertaining a TNA currently. Or he's probably making more money doing Japan and indy dates without the depressing non-existent TNA house show audiences to work in front of. But that wouldn't be a very PC thing to say. Listening to the comments Styles made, it sounds like New Japan is his priority now and they don't want any of their wrestlers working for TNA after Vince Russo buried Yujiro Takahashi, Tetsuya Naito and Kazuchika Okada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueminister Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Posted about this on Twitter earlier, but I can't think of anything that makes JR look worse than his rampant homophobia directed towards Pat Patterson in late 90s WWF. Every show that Patterson is on during the Attitude Era contains at least one JR gay joke at Patterson's expense. I'm sure JR thinks he's being hilarious, and so does McMahon probably, but it's cringe inducing hate speech that JR is pumping out as the babyface voice of the company. You certainly have strong feelings about stupid bullshit lately. "Cringe inducing hate speech?" Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Just listening to the JR Podcast with Kurt Angle. He made a point before the Angle stuff started about how being the Champ, being the man in wrestling is so hard. Harder than people realize. Then he speculated how many champions since the title came to be in the early 60's had become divorced while being on top. I thought that was pretty weird. A lot of wrestlers cheat. A lot of wrestlers break-up. Wrestlers are always on the road. I don't think it's exclusive to just the guy on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKWildcat Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I've never seen someone suck the fun out of Colt Cabana during a podcast...until Jim Ross. I bet Colt checked his watch 50 times during that interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 The earlier interview with the PW Hof director was worthwhile at least. But yeah, that was a bit of a chore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKWildcat Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 The earlier interview with the PW Hof director was worthwhile at least. But yeah, that was a bit of a chore. That was Mike Lano, wasnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I've never seen someone suck the fun out of Colt Cabana during a podcast... You clearly haven't heard too much of Colt then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I've never seen someone suck the fun out of Colt Cabana during a podcast... You clearly haven't heard too much of Colt then. Why's that? I've listened to him quite a bit, thought he was fairly upbeat most of the time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 The earlier interview with the PW Hof director was worthwhile at least. But yeah, that was a bit of a chore. That was Mike Lano, wasnt it? Kyle Klingman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Just listening to the JR Podcast with Kurt Angle. He made a point before the Angle stuff started about how being the Champ, being the man in wrestling is so hard. Harder than people realize. Then he speculated how many champions since the title came to be in the early 60's had become divorced while being on top. I thought that was pretty weird. A lot of wrestlers cheat. A lot of wrestlers break-up. Wrestlers are always on the road. I don't think it's exclusive to just the guy on top. Add rock stars, truck drivers, military servicemen and traveling salesmen to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 And even more closer to it are road comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Can I have some timeline help? I always thought that Ross got canned due to his initial flare up in 94, but Wiki said his contract lapsed and wasn't renewed two weeks the flare up. I can't find anything in the WON at this time, except for at the very end of February where Dave mentioned that Ross would be replaced by Monsoon and Stan Lane on Challenge due to the Palsy, with nothing about his contractual situation. Then, in March, Dave said that the contract wouldn't be renewed at the end of March. Which is accurate? Was he not renewed before the flare up happened or was he not renewed only after it happened? He was hired back during the steroid trial for two months only because that's how long they figured Vince would be busy for it. Can someone clarify this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 He wasn't notified about being released until after he contracted Bell's Palsy, but it sounds like his firing was due to his creative differences with Vince and was already in the pipeline before he contracted the illness, as he told Wade Keller in a Torch Talk the following shortly after he was let go: Keller: What led to your departure from the World Wrestling Federation?Ross: The basic thrust of it was Vince was interested in me becoming a character, much like many of the wrestlers and was very sure that if I would don a cowboy hat and a western jacket and a string tie that I would be more marketable and would be more effective to him and his product by being this character. I felt very uncomfortable about doing it. It came to an impasse since I wasn't interested in doing that. I guess he perceived that as not being loyal and not being totally committed to his product, so on Feb. 11 he called me to his office and let me know he had decided to go a different direction with his announcing and I would not be in those plans and that my contract would not be renewed when it expired at the end of March.Keller: Did you getting Bell's Palsy, which paralyzed half of you face, have anything to do with the way your were treated by the WWF or your departure from there?Ross: Well, the way the sequence of events came about is that on SuperBowl Sunday morning, Jan. 31, I woke up with Bell's Palsy and the left side of my face was completely paralyzed and my left eye wouldn't blink. My jaw was hanging. About two-thirds of my mouth was like when you go to the dentist and numbed up. I didn't have control over my lip. My ears were ringing. Half of my tongue was numb. I thought when I woke up and staggered into the bathroom, which is normal for me in the morning, I looked into the mirror and it was a much worse sight than I was used to seeing. It really scared me when I touched my face and couldn't feel anything. I thought I had a stroke; I had the same basic symptoms. That was on Jan. 31. Along with this, because of the nerve damage, I was having horrific headaches.I went to the emergency clinic and then saw a doctor. I was having these horrible headaches in February and was staying in bed most of the time. I had trouble with my vision. I was drooling like a child. I was very self-conscious of it, quite frankly. I was taking medication for the headaches and antibiotics because at first they thought I had Lime's Disease, which I didn't thank goodness. I was getting ready to see a neurologist about the second week in February, in fact it was Feb. 10, and I'll never forget it - there's some significant things you always remember in your life - it was snowing like crazy and it ended up snowing the next two or three days. But they called me from the WWF office - someone from human resources called and said they wanted to continue my talks about resuming my contract on Friday morning in Vince's office.I had been talking to Lisa Wolf, who's the head of human resources, and J.J. Dillon, who's the vice president of wrestling administration there, about my contract. We had some very nice talks, some very pleasant talks, and both of those two people are very quality people. When they called me on Thursday, I was a little bit alarmed because I was in bed and I was sick and I really didn't want to get out in the snow, but I did.I drove to the office the next day. It was about 12 miles from where I lived to the office and it took about an hour to get there. It was just horrible, horrible driving conditions. So when I got there, the whole meeting took about five minutes, maybe ten. The drift of it is Vince said he appreciated all I had done for him, he appreciated my hard work, but he decided to go a different direction with his broadcasters and that I was not in those plans and, finally, that he would not be renewing my contract when it expired. That's how it all came about. I hope the Bell's Palsy wasn't a factor. I don't think Vince is that cold-hearted that he would let me go because I was ill.If there was anything negative about the whole situation it is I feel like it could have been handled a little bit more timely when I was feeling better and when I could actually go in and communicate with him, where I could carry on a conversation without being constantly wiping my eye or my mouth. I thought the timing was a little ill-fated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Considering how much Vince considers appearance when it comes to announcers, there's no way it didn't come into play. I don't doubt there were creative differences that got the ball rolling, but I'd be willing to wager significant money the first time he saw JR afterward his initial reaction wasn't "no fucking way I let this guy go on my TV like that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Considering how much Vince considers appearance when it comes to announcers, there's no way it didn't come into play. I don't doubt there were creative differences that got the ball rolling, but I'd be willing to wager significant money the first time he saw JR afterward his initial reaction wasn't "no fucking way I let this guy go on my TV like that". I'm not sure how much of it was worked but I remember on an episode of Live Wire after the Ross "heel turn" promo Vince boasting something like "what other television producer would put someone with Ross's condition on television?" when asked about the Bell's Palsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 I think it should be remembered that Ross had fallen out of favor with Vince McMahon long before his bout of Bell's palsy, as Vince was back doing the pay-per-view play by play commentary by SummerSlam '93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Thanks for posting the Torch Talk snippet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Great interview with J.R. here. http://thebiglead.com/2014/12/19/a-long-conversation-with-jim-ross-part-i/ Am I reading into it too much, or does he seem less than enthused about Jarrett picking Striker? JR: Matt Striker’s my partner. Jeff Jarrett made that call. It’s his money so I’m cool with it. I worked with Striker in WWE a few times, and I’ve been around him a lot. He’s a student. He’s a fan, which is important. He’ll be fine and I think we’ll have a very good show. We’re both approaching it as something extraordinary for our careers because it’s the first time that the Japanese PPV has been on PPV in North America in English. Much more in the link: Flair's party lifestyle, CM Punk, Vince, WWE's medical staff...tons of interesting content. It's well worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 J.R. never got along with Randy Savage. Could that simple enough reason be why we never saw the Macho Man back in the WWE? J.R. was in charge of WWE Talent Relations at the time, and Savage did back out of a Mid South deal many years before. I never bought the Stephanie story. Always smacked of DVDVR "sleaze thread" bullshit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 J.R. never got along with Randy Savage. Could that simple enough reason be why we never saw the Macho Man back in the WWE? J.R. was in charge of WWE Talent Relations at the time, and Savage did back out of a Mid South deal many years before. I never bought the Stephanie story. Always smacked of DVDVR "sleaze thread" bullshit to me. Definitely adds a unique possible influence which hadn't even been hinted at before. Doubt the Mid-South thing mattered, but just a personal relationship that never clicked. Then again, Savage was negotiating with the company in late 1996, so maybe something happened then as well that ticked someone off just as much as anything before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 J.R. on foxsports.com: "Who is the biggest star in the history of the Royal Rumble?" Pat Patterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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