C.S. Posted October 27, 2022 Author Report Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, strobogo said: Ol' Double Talking Jive David Meltzer said multiple people said that was completely fabricated, and not a single person had mentioned this on either side until yesterday. Those multiple people could be Kenny and the Bucks, of course. However, Punk's side did backtrack on "kicking the door in" and it is curious to have not mentioned this for a month and a half, at the same time as leaking his defense in the event legal actions stem from the incident. Which is why it's hard to take DM seriously about this story. He is clearly not an impartial, unbiased source of information. 57 minutes ago, El-P said: CM Punk being afraid of Hangman Page shooting on him is absolutely bonkers hilarious. How can anyone can take any of this bullshit seriously anymore ? Which is why I'm hesitant to believe these leaks are coming from Punk's side. Why would he leak that he was afraid of Hangman in a physical fight? May as well say you're afraid of Disco Inferno because it sounds the same.
KawadaSmile Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 I mean if I fought like CM Punk I would be constantly afraid of a serious physical confrontation with just about anyone.
El-P Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, C.S. said: Which is why it's hard to take DM seriously about this story. He is clearly not an impartial, unbiased source of information. That narrative is a total cop-out. Meltzer BURNED AEW and TK for their handling of the situation. Let it rest people, it's barely above the "A billion stars at the Tokyo Dome" meme by now. What Meltz reported as coming from Punk's side was the same as the other reporters. Stuff like the door being "kicked in" was retracted a while ago too. 37 minutes ago, C.S. said: Which is why I'm hesitant to believe these leaks are coming from Punk's side. This is also the same "leak" that mentions the dog getting hurt. So, one part is legit and the other one is not ? Depending of whether that works in Punk's "favor" I guess... Seriously... Let's be real, if it was *anyone* other than the Elite on the other side (apart from maybe Sammy in the last few months), there would not be half the debates about this mess.
WingedEagle Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 What I find curious is that Punk cares enough about something to have any story or angle pushed at all. What is is that he cares about I have no idea. But wouldn't have expected that.
El-P Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 BTW, Jericho is facing a former "ROH champion" next week, but it's not mentioned it's a former world champ. As a fellow former DVDVR shitposter, I would SO TOTALLY book Colt Cabana vs Jericho. That would be the most amazing troll ever.
Phil Schneider Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 To be fair, worrying about someone shooting on you doesn't imply that they could beat you in a fight, if one person is cooperating, and the other person is looking to hurt their opponent, there are plenty of ways you can fuck someone up without being tougher.
C.S. Posted October 27, 2022 Author Report Posted October 27, 2022 50 minutes ago, El-P said: This is also the same "leak" that mentions the dog getting hurt. So, one part is legit and the other one is not ? Depending of whether that works in Punk's "favor" I guess... Seriously... Let's be real, if it was *anyone* other than the Elite on the other side (apart from maybe Sammy in the last few months), there would not be half the debates about this mess. I like The Elite. I like Punk. I like Hangman. I love Larry the Dog. I adore Scott Colton's mother and want to share a bank account with her too. I salivate over Mindy's Bakery but they're not open on Mondays and Tuesdays. So, I'm not sure what you're suggesting. I never said one was legit and the other wasn't, just that I don't think Punk is the source of this leak, because why would he leak being afraid of Hangman? The name starts with an H and an A, but it's still Hangman, not Haku.
El-P Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, C.S. said: I never said one was legit and the other wasn't, just that I don't think Punk is the source of this leak, because why would he leak being afraid of Hangman? Of course he's not afraid of Hangman. The broader point is : Punk's camp is full of shit on this one and they are doing a piss poor job of damage control just when the Elite is being brought back after the investigation is over. Like working with Hangman Page, of all people, was some kind of unsafe working environment, sure. (maybe Punk is just salty he could not do that buckshot lariat twice, he sure sandbagged himself there) None of it make any sense at all. It's just plain embarrassing now.
El-P Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Jericho vs Matt Taven it is! No chance. Taven is a heel and faces Wardlow on Rampage. Mystery guy means it's a mystery. I would love PCO. And considering he's signed with IMPACT, it can be done in a heartbeat.
Jmare007 Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 Low Ki gonna show up unannounced and knock Jericho out to get the belt. Punk's fuckery is gonna be left in the dust!
Timbo Slice Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 Where is it that folks think Punk is doing the Dirtsheet Shootout with the Elite? Punk was always more a wait and see and then drop a big bomb than go tit for tat with bullshit.
NintendoLogic Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 By the way, Dave has explicitly said that the only side to contact him was Punk's side and the other side wouldn't talk. Of course, I don't expect that to change any minds since to some people, any reporting that portrays Punk as anything other than completely justified in every way is evidence of being in the tank for the Elite.
KawadaSmile Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, El-P said: No chance. Taven is a heel and faces Wardlow on Rampage. Mystery guy means it's a mystery. I would love PCO. And considering he's signed with IMPACT, it can be done in a heartbeat. PCO sounds very likely. Maybe Adam Cole, if he got the green light to return?
Jmare007 Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Timbo Slice said: Where is it that folks think Punk is doing the Dirtsheet Shootout with the Elite? Punk was always more a wait and see and then drop a big bomb than go tit for tat with bullshit. I don't think Punk is the one talking to people but the Wrestlinginc stuff that came out yesterday literally said "we reached out to CM Punk's camp for a response, and received one". For all we know it could've been Ace Steel's dumb ass talking bullshit and Nick Hausman thinking he had the scoop of the month. Still funny no matter how you slice it I mean look at this, THIS is what's been discussed right now The Dog thing
Matt D Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: PCO sounds very likely. Maybe Adam Cole, if he got the green light to return? I don’t think they’d return Cole like this. If anything Jericho would beat a guy like Daniels or Richards and then post match, Cole would come out.
sek69 Posted October 27, 2022 Report Posted October 27, 2022 To be fair, SRS also said no one he talked to mentioned anything about the dog before now so it's not just Dave calling bullshit on this.
Jesse Ewiak Posted October 28, 2022 Report Posted October 28, 2022 As somebody who dislikes both Punk & The Elite, I believe basically nothing coming from Punk, because his description of The Elite doesn't even match up to what my view of them, as somebody who doesn't like them. While on the other hand, the Elite's descriptions of Punk's action lineup to everything I've heard about him for close to twenty years. Plus, if it was actually true about the dog, that would've been leaked the moment it happened, not a month later when Punk is probably looking for a bigger buyout from Papa Khan.
rovert Posted October 28, 2022 Report Posted October 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Matt D said: I don’t think they’d return Cole like this. If anything Jericho would beat a guy like Daniels or Richards and then post match, Cole would come out. If you listened to Britt Baker appearance on Swerve Strickland's podcast this week. Cole is still healing and taking justified time off. Britt would set up herself as being a massive hypocrite over Thunder Rosa beef if she was "working".
rovert Posted October 28, 2022 Report Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Jesse Ewiak said: As somebody who dislikes both Punk & The Elite, I believe basically nothing coming from Punk, because his description of The Elite doesn't even match up to what my view of them, as somebody who doesn't like them. While on the other hand, the Elite's descriptions of Punk's action lineup to everything I've heard about him for close to twenty years. Plus, if it was actually true about the dog, that would've been leaked the moment it happened, not a month later when Punk is probably looking for a bigger buyout from Papa Khan. There's a lot to the situation, definitely a book in it and then another book after 10 years or so. But how weird/twisted CM Punk was at the press conference is crazy. What he wanted to achieve and what he failed achieved. Months and months of pre-mediation, stewing and establishing a script in his head. But basically and in short he wanted Tony to cut him off so he could claim Tony was pro-Colt Cabana.
PeteF3 Posted October 28, 2022 Report Posted October 28, 2022 Hasn't she kind of already done that by bragging about how she showed up to work even when she was hurt, including with a concussion? "Hypocritical" probably isn't the exact right word considering it's Cole who's taking time off and not her, but she stuck her foot in her mouth regardless.
rovert Posted October 28, 2022 Report Posted October 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, PeteF3 said: Hasn't she kind of already done that by bragging about how she showed up to work even when she was hurt, including with a concussion? "Hypocritical" probably isn't the exact right word considering it's Cole who's taking time off and not her, but she stuck her foot in her mouth regardless. Listen to the actual podcast in context and not an unrepresentative clip. Ask why you are being shown something, who is providing it and the possible agenda behind it. The lack of basic media literacy why the World and especially the US is in the state it is in. Swerve came to Britt's defense:
PeteF3 Posted October 28, 2022 Report Posted October 28, 2022 "Ask why you are being shown something, who is providing it and the possible agenda behind it. " You could say the same thing for pretty much every Rosa story to break in the past 6 months, too.
rovert Posted October 28, 2022 Report Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, PeteF3 said: "Ask why you are being shown something, who is providing it and the possible agenda behind it. " You could say the same thing for pretty much every Rosa story to break in the past 6 months, too. Toni and Thunder Rosa were really good friends at one stage and fairly recently. Maybe TR is the female CM Punk and I heavily suggest she is? Watch the full Swerve podcast (that shouldn't be suggestion or an attack) and make your own mind up.
Johnny Sorrow Posted October 28, 2022 Report Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 10:07 PM, Ricky Jackson said: The end of Vince was huge of course, but considering how HUGE we all thought the end of Vince would be in our minds, I was surprised how quickly the story cycled out and everyone just stopped talking about it Well, if Larry the dog had just disappeared like McMahon did maybe this AEW drama wouldn't have taken over the discussion.
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