Dave Meltzer stuff

[jdw]

My memory if differ from Dave's, though not a 180. My recollection is that both of us didn't think she deserved to be in. I mean... folks who have the WON's in the 80s can read what he had to say about Moolah back then, and none of it was positive or would give much indication that he thought she was an all-time great.

 

John

[kjh]

My memory if differ from Dave's, though not a 180. My recollection is that both of us didn't think she deserved to be in. I mean... folks who have the WON's in the 80s can read what he had to say about Moolah back then, and none of it was positive or would give much indication that he thought she was an all-time great.

I don't think that contradicts what Dave says. By the sounds of things Dave just needed someone to have him stop and think for a second that she didn't deserve to go in by fiat in the first year. He didn't need convincing, just needed someone to jog his brain cells a bit.

[jdw]

My recollection is that he was negative to Moolah before I was negative to Moolah. I didn't need to jog anything.

 

John

[Johnny Sorrow]

So is the site safe yet?

[KrisZ]

Yeah

[Johnny Sorrow]

Not "Dave stuff" per se, but the interview from last week that Alverez did with X-Pac was really, really good.

[El-P]

Not "Dave stuff" per se, but the interview from last week that Alverez did with X-Pac was really, really good.

Yes, very interesting on a number of levels. And Waltman sounds so candid and actually likeable.

[kjh]

"They're both entertainment so fuck it." - Dave defending Bryan's right to compare the WrestleMania match quality to that of UFC 129.

[Wahoos Leg]

"They're both entertainment so fuck it." - Dave defending Bryan's right to compare the WrestleMania match quality to that of UFC 129.

One is fixed. One is not. Ridiculous statement.

[rovert]

He said it at ridiculous o'clock in the morning in fairness.

[Loss]

Yeah, stupid comment, but not worth hammering him over too much.

[rovert]

My reading of it was that Dave was going to correct or qualify the comment but couldnt be bothered.

[Jingus]

It's repeatedly proven to be useless to challenge Dave on his retarded "MMA=rasslin" belief. He's practically a conspiracy theorist by this point. No matter what kind of logic or facts you bring to show his error, he'll only redouble his belief in the face of contradicting evidence.

[Guest Slickster]

From today's update:

--Jon Horton, the former Global Wrestling TV announcer in the early 90s, is doing a one-man improv show on Saturday night at the Phoenix Theater in Edmonds, WA, just north of Seattle. The Dark Patriot has been banned from the building (thanks to Steven Prazak)

[Cox]

Oh great, so now the Phoenix Theater has a Doug Gilbert list like IWA Mid South?

[Johnny Sorrow]

On Pardon the Interruption on Monday, they wished happy trails to Randy Couture. Michael Wilbon noted that Couture was a UFC Hall of Famer. Tony Kornheiser said, "UFC has been around five minutes, how can they have a Hall of Fame?"

That cracked me up.

 

And this is just hilarious.

 

--Who is the biggest star in combat sports entertainment

The Rock 34.6%

Manny Pacquiao 24.0%

Brock Lesnar 15.7%

Floyd Mayweather Jr. 8.2%

Georges St. Pierre 6.2%

Hulk Hogan 5.2%

John Cena 3.4%

Anderson Silva 1.9%

Randy Orton 0.7%

 

Combat sports entertainment? Really? I love that either Dave or Alverez actually came up with their own term for the insane "it's all the same" deal.

[Jingus]

Orton's inclusion and Stone Cold's exclusion on that list are head-scratch-worthy.

[rovert]

Am I the only one who marked out for formatted tables in the Observer?

[Loss]

I was impressed. Dave LEAPS into the 1990s!

 

Really, Dave has the same relationship with his existing WON format that Eric Bischoff has with Hulk Hogan.

[kjh]

I was impressed. Dave LEAPS into the 1990s!

Um, only with Vincent Verhei formatting the tables for him, it should be noted!

[Cox]

Does it really matter who formatted the table? Plenty of good writers don't know how to properly format a table. At least Dave is finally making attempts to improve the look of the Observer. That should be commended, even if it's something as small as adding a table.

[Ditch]

Da-ve, GET THE TABLES.

 

 

 

(sorry)

[Tawren]

Dave and Bryan's fixation with GSP being more famous than Wayne Gretzky is strange. I really don't see how they can think that.

[goc]

Dave and Bryan's fixation with GSP being more famous than Wayne Gretzky is strange. I really don't see how they can think that.

Is the argument supposed to be worldwide or just in Canada?

[Tawren]

It's worldwide. But I mean, the biggest UFC ever did 1.6 million worldwide buys, so if we go generously large and say there were 10 people watching at every one of those buys that is only 16 million people knowing who GSP is. Double that as some kind of generous "awareness measure" and you have 32 million people...the population of Canada. And every single Canadian knows who Gretzky is. I'm sure many (most?) Americans can name Gretzky at least as "the hockey guy". Add in people from other countries at least being aware of the name or even countries in Europe that know and play hockey knowing him.

 

I mean, this really doesn't seem to be a real argument you can make.