flyonthewall2983

I thought that was a house show.

I mentioned this in a related thread, but if I remember correctly, the audience was booing because nothing was being shown on their huge TV screen where they would normally have replays and such on. It was either not functioning or they just didn't show it to get a more negative reaction that could play well on TV.

Weren't the house lights down during the actual fall?

This and Owen's death are definitely apples and oranges. It's one thing to die in a stupid stunt only related to make someone in the other company look silly, but we're considering what would have happened if someone died during an actual match, as well as being broadcast live. It would have not only caused dissension outside the wrestling bubble but very well in it too. It's a wonder that the PR nightmares Vince has had to live through were virtually all things that happened outside the ring,

I think also if it had happened with more perilous results, would it be reaching to say that any chance of the company going public would have been in tatters?

That's downright masochism.

He also had a bit part in a movie Shane McMahon's wife was a producer on, the rather derivative Willem Dafoe vehicle Anamorph.

I heard it wasn't supposed to break through at all, Taker would pin him on top of the cage with the ref counting below. FWIW, I think the bump he used at the end of the match with Orndorff at SuperBrawl 3 was just as, if not more dangerous. A few inches in the wrong direction and he'd probably be at least braindead.

If he was paralyzed I'd imagine there would have been huge media uproar, lawsuits and general national dissension and disillusion towards wrestling. If he was killed, those things would just be the tip of the iceberg. WCW would be out of business by 2000, and Vince would probably be wrapped up in lawsuits for the rest of his natural life.

Wikipedia says he was born in Omaha, Nebraska. For some reason I always thought he was really from California, even in some of the shoot-y things he did for TNA.

Good news, the Raw Flashbacks are coming back this week.

People were chanting "Paula" at Orndorff.

Was he ever a heel beside the run as "The Model"?

I let my subscription renew, but haven't really watched anything of value since.

^ That pretty much. He seems rather unlikable either way, to me anyway.

DiBiase winning the WrestleMania IV tournament instead of Savage. And it probably would have happened too if Vince wasn't so hung up on the Honky Tonk Man gimmick.

Batista was just cast in the next James Bond movie. It's been an interesting year for him.

It's okay to ignore me, like I said before I'm clearly a tourist compared to some of you guys.

I'm 30 and view it much more cynically since WCW and ECW went under. Maybe even before that with Montreal. People focus too much on the Vince/Bret/Shawn angle, and not enough that Vince telling the guy to ring the bell painted in the largest strokes possible that he does not really care about the audience's perception of the "reality" of what they're watching. Maybe even more than saying it in words in 1989 just to get the athletic commissions off his back. Admittedly it's not something I thought about at the time, but looking back more was lost that night than Bret Hart to WCW. I lost interest in small increments from the time I was 13, when I was discovering music in a big way. Later film and television, mediums where the perception of reality is not something in question like it was with pro wrestling. Now the genie is out of the bottle, and I do find myself regretting not having been born 10-15 years before I was, when I could fully appreciate the 80's boom without that lingering feeling that yeah it's all scripted. I get the occasional buzz when I'm watching a really good match or angle, but I don't have that feeling of investment that I did watching wrestling as a kid, or even now when I am so engrossed in shows like Breaking Bad. I'm much more interested in engaging in nostalgia than bothering with WWE's current product. And I'm almost ashamed to say it but I've never really taken much interest in indies or Japanese stuff (unless it's involving someone I know who's wrestled here). So how I view it now, is kind of like how people will go see classic rock bands in concert. They're older, often with diminished talent or charisma because of the ravages of age, but the songs carry them through. And they deal in nostalgia as if it were a currency. WWE kind of does the same thing when they drag Hogan or someone else back out, but it also happens when I watch a match like the ones Daniel Bryan had at WrestleMania this year. Stuff like that is often worth it to wade through what doesn't feel worth it at all.

Must be real expensive if the original price was 500 dollars.

Set to be back in December for the TLC PPV. Bryan and Reigns should be back at the exact same time. There's thought of delaying either of their returns until the Royal Rumble. Barrett will back at that same time frame too. RR would be a better idea, if just to give them more time to heal. So is he 100% now? I really thought, from what I was reading, that he might be finished.

Any news on Daniel Bryan's condition?