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My favourite match with that gimmick is Devil/Ozaki vs. Chigusa/Dynamite GAEA 4/15/95. I don't think there was anything wrong with the Super Heel gimmick for the first couple of years she used it. It's just that afterwards she started going overboard with the goofy aspects and that's mainly what's been remembered for some reason.

Kross losing was the funniest thing on WWE TV for years.

There was a recent interview with Fumi Saito where he said Akira Hokuto didn't want it as "it wouldn't make her any more special".

In case people aren't aware Rock "tore his adductor and the top of his quad completely off his pelvis" in that WM29 match. It's not really their fault as wrestlers that it was bad.

I find it funny that the people specifying when exactly Bryan's prime was are all coming up with totally different periods! But anyway, I find this the focus on 'prime' a bit cumbersome and not useful. I went into this a bit in the Akira Hokuto thread that people should really be assessed by how great they were at that time in general rather than in comparison to their very best, otherwise you end up unfairly penalising the very best wrestlers for not always meeting an impossibly high bar often due to circumstances outside their control. I think with Bryan some years are stronger than others, but he's still comfortably one of the best wrestlers in the world from 2003 - present (minus 2015-18 when he was out injured) and I don't think he has a single year where he's significantly below his best, and even those years it was more he had less opportunities than anything. I also think some of his very best stuff was in that late 2018 - early 2020 run, so it's not like there's been any noticeable decline due to aging yet. And I'm only cutting it off at 2020 because I've barely watched any pandemic era WWE. If you're talking about prime in a simplistic (pre-prime > prime > post-prime) trajectory then Bryan's pre-prime is maybe 1999-03 and he's still in his prime as far as I can tell. Even just these Roman Reigns matches in 2021 there's nothing in his performances that makes me think he's a lesser worker than he was any time in his career. That he's apparently been one of the best at adapting to the no crowds situation is another feather in his cap really.

This match was part of the 2021 Catch The Wave tournament. The format is the wrestlers are split into four blocks of four in a round robin, and the top placed wrestlers make the semi finals > final. In this group, there was a three way tie between Momono, Takase and Hirota, so to decide the winner of the block they had to wrestle again in a series of singles matches, with the first wrestler to win two consecutive falls winning the block. Fall 1 is Momono vs. Takase. Mio starts hot charging Takase right at the beginning with a flurry of kicks and forearms. She knocks Takase out of the ring and tries to go for a running dive from the top turnbuckle, but Takase gets back in the ring too quick and gives her a funny "I'm not that easy to beat" look. We get a really fast-paced 13 minute fall between these two and Momono gets the pin with a code red. Great start. Fall 2 is Momono vs. Hirota. Mio just runs circles around Hirota hitting her with loads of dropkicks as fast as she can, but she makes a similar mistake as the previous fall where she tries to dropkick Hirota out of the ring, but the veteran just moves across the apron to dodge it, and then yanks Mio down to the floor to take the advantage. The mat then turns into a slow, surprisingly mat-based affair. I'm used to Hirota being 90% a comedy wrestler but she does perfectly fine here, that GAEA training is still there. Hirota wins with a strange submission that looks like a cross chicken wing applied to seated opponent from the side...? Fall 3 is Hirota vs. Takase. Takase looks to be in a bad mood here from her previous loss and just starts stiffing the hell out of Hirota with her big lariats and chops. This doesn't last long as Hirota is too exhausted from the long fall with Momono to put up much of a fight. Fall 4 is Takase vs. Momono. They both really fire up for this one now. It's different from Fall 1 as we know if Takase wins she wins the block, if Momono wins she just needs to beat a tired Hirota afterwards and she's through. Best part of the match and they work to a great climax. This whole thing is 42 minutes long and it didn't feel that long at all. One of the best 'tiny show pandemic era' matches I've seen. According to CageMatch this show had 60 fans in attendance, they certainly got their money's worth! ****1/4

The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) defend the AEW World Tag Team Titles. There's a great feeling of excitement and energy from this match which elevates everything. The crowd are really into Mox & Kingston's entrance singing along to "Wild Thing" and the match starts hot with them going straight for the Bucks and we get a big brawl on the outside. This is all very well done and I really enjoyed the first 10 minutes of this match. The big problem though is the inconsistency with how the referee enforces the rules in the first half of the match, only to completely drop it in the second half where the Young Bucks are just happily double teaming Moxley for literally minutes at a time without the ref doing anything about it and Kingston just stands on the apron. AEW would really be a lot better if they just officially announced that Tag Title matches are fought under tornado tag rules or something and quit enforcing tags at all. At least while the Bucks have them. Or do an angle that the Bucks are bribing referees or something, I dunno. Just make it make sense. ***1/2

Here's a link to yesterday's show if anyone wants it:

This one should work: https://discord.com/invite/3F2CKuZYfx

The streaming service Wrestle Universe has TJPW on it. They've started having English commentary for the bigger shows this past year. They also have a one-match show with English commentary called 'That's J-PW' on there, which is now at 24 episodes. It's 900 Yen ($8.17) a month and also comes with DDT and NOAH. https://www.ddtpro.com/universe They also have a YouTube channel which occasionally uploads matches. Here is Miyu Yamashita vs. Rika Tatsumi on 5/4/21.

I started writing a post explaining what all the different current Joshi promotions were like in the GWE Discord but then realised it would be way too long... So I'm posting it here. Feel free to correct me anyone if I get anything wrong (probably will). 1. Stardom Size - Tier 1/Biggest Company. In 2019 became the only Joshi company to have a weekly TV show on a mainstream channel since AJW in 2002. Founded in 2011 by Nanae Takahashi, Rossy Ogawa and Fuka. Presents itself as a spiritual successor to AJW Owned by Bushiroad (the same company that owns NJPW) since 2019. Rossy Ogawa is still the booker. In Ring Style = Modern workrate style but with generally shorter matches and a bit more comedy. A lot of angles. Blood/gimmick matches very rare. Big Names = Mayu Iwatani, Utami Hayashishita, Giulia, Syuri, Tam Nakano. 2. TJPW Size - Tier 2. Founded in 2012 as DDT's sister Joshi promotion (TJPW wrestlers often appear in DDT also) Owned by CyberFight, who also own DDT and NOAH In Ring Style = Soft-hitting and a lot of comedy. Idol/anime influenced. Big Names = Miyu Yamashita (Ace), Maki Itoh, Yuka Sakazaki, Rika Tatsumi, Sakisama 3. Oz Academy Size - Tier 2 Founded in 2005 as a real promotion by Mayumi Ozaki, but is a continuation of Ozaki Produce shows going back to 1998. Owned by Mayumi Ozaki In Ring Style = Closest to GAEA except older wrestlers as it's mainly a nostalgia promotion now. Blood and hardcore stuff is common Big Names = Mayumi Ozaki, Saori Anou (their most pushed "young" wrestler), AKINO, Sonoko Kato 4. Sendai Girls Size - Tier 2 Founded in 2006 by Meiko Satomura. Owned afaia by Meiko Satomura, but she just left for NXT UK so unclear what the situation is now In Ring Style = Serious workrate style. Very little storylines, just good matches... except right now they're in an interpromotional feud with Marvelous. Big Names = Chihiro Hashimoto (Ace), DASH Chisako, Mika Iwata. Those three and some rookies are the entire roster. 5. Ice Ribbon Size - Tier 2 Founded in 2006 by Emi Sakura. Owned by some shadowy businessman after Sakura left in 2012. Tsukasa Fujimoto is the booker In Ring Style = Somewhere in between Stardom and TJPW. Modern workrate main events but a lot more soft/comedy stuff on undercards. But also they do the cccasional death match. Big Names = Tsukasa Fujimoto (Ace), Maya Yukihi, Suzu Suzuki, Tsukushi 6. SEAdLINNNG Size - Tier 3 Founded in 2015 by Nanae Takahashi after her and Yoshiko left Stardom Owned by Nanae Takahashi In Ring Style = Serious workrate style but more hard-hitting. Big Names = Nanae Takahashi, Arisa Nakajima, Yoshiko 7. Marvelous Size - Tier 3 Founded in 2014 by Chigusa Nagayo when she returned to wrestling Owned by Chigusa Nagayo, possibly Takumi Iroha as well (hard to know what's kayfabe) In Ring Style = Very young roster, it's a promotion focused around developing rookies. Very fast-paced matches with 100+ rollup variations in each match and some slower veteran matches. Has a lot of angles and is currently in an interpromotional feud with Sendai Girls. They also have a working relationship with Stardom so occasionally their wrestlers appear on those shows. Big Names - Takumi Iroha (Ace), Mio Momono (getting a big push at the moment...), Rin Kadokura, Mei Hoshizuki. 8. Pro Wrestling Wave Size - Tier 3 Founded in 2008 by Mikiko Futagami (GAMI). Owned by GAMI In Ring Style = WAVE is more of a Joshi 'super indie' like PWG than it's own promotion at this point. You'll see wrestlers from lots of different Joshi promotions having fun matches without angles. Big Names - Nagiza Nozaki, GAMI, Sakura Hirota (is signed with WAVE I believe, albeit she appears all over the place) 9. Gatoh Move/ChocoPro Size - Tier 3 (albeit punches above its weight with online presence) Founded in 2012 by Emi Sakura after she left Ice Ribbon Owned by Emi Sakura In Ring Style = Very soft-hitting. Lots of silliness, comedy and very storyline driven matches and feuds. All the wrestlers are trained by Emi Sakura, which generally means they aren't great athletes but she helps them work around it. Most matches happen on a mat not a ring. Currently just a YouTube show. Big Names - Emi Sakura, Mei Suruga, Lulu Pencil 10. Actwres girl'Z Size - Tier 3 Founded in 2015, don't know who by (I guess some production company) In Ring Style = Mostly serious workrate style without much storylines. This promotion has a sideshow called Actring girl'z which is totally different, softer and made to look like you're watching a theatre show. Big Names - Miyuki Takase, Tae Honma, SAKI 11. Diana Size - Tier 4 Founded in 2011 by Kyoko Inoue after NEO closed Owned by Kyoko Inoue In Ring Style - Nostalgia promotion. You'll get the odd match but the main appeal of this promotion is people seeing their favourite wrestlers by years back still wrestle. The main event of every other show is a tag match between Kyoko Inoue & X vs. Jaguar Yokota & X. Big Names - Kyoko Inoue, Jaguar Yokota 12. Pure-J Size - Tier 4 Founded in 2017 as the successor to JWP Owned by Command Bolshoi In Ring Style = More technical/matbased stuff than typical. Big Names = Hanako Nakamori, Leon 13. YMZ Size - Tier 4 Founded in 2013 by Kaori Yoneyama (who is currently Fukigen Death in Stardom) Owned by Kaori Yoneyama In Ring Style = Doesn't really have one as it's a tiny promotion that's more an outlet for Kaori to book strange stuff and wrestle main events. Big Names - Kaori Yoneyama. I'm not sure they even have a roster.

PWO has been way too harsh on RVD. His matches look like paragons of psychology and logic compared to recent WWE ladder matches.

The best is when HHH hit a pedigree, sold for 21 seconds, then pinned Booker T and won.

I think there's a lack of imagination there, or at least an understanding of how to use their individual characteristics to stand out. The positive example of this is WALTER becoming one the biggest stars on the European indies by just actually wrestling to his size, and these same "indie" crowds totally bought that he could finish someone with a chop.

To the best of my knowledge we have 33 Akira Hokuto matches on tape for 1993. A lot of this stuff aired in the 00s on AJW Classics either completely new or more complete versions than the TV at the time: 1. Jan 04 - Akira Hokuto vs. Debbie Malenko (clipped, version on AJW Classics #67 is a bit longer but still not the full match) 2. Jan 11 - Akira Hokuto & Yumiko Hotta vs. Toshiyo Yamada & Manami Toyota (handheld) 3. Jan 24 - Akira Hokuto & Etsuko Mita & Mima Shimoda vs. Harley Saito & Eagle Sawai & Miki Handa 4. Feb 12 - Akira Hokuto, Bull Nakano & La Diabolica defeat Esther Moreno, KAORU & Xochitl Hamada (CMLL) 5. Apr 02 - Akira Hokuto vs. Shinobu Kandori 6. Apr 11 - Akira Hokuto & Aja Kong vs. Shinobu Kandori & Eagle Sawai 7. Apr 16 - Akira Hokuto & Yumiko Hotta vs Bull Nakano & Aja Kong (handheld) 8. Apr 18 - Akira Hokuto vs. Sakie Hasegawa (handheld) 9. Apr 20 - Akira Hokuto & Suzuka Minami vs. Toshiyo Yamada & Kyoko Inoue (clipped) 10. Apr 24 - Akira Hokuto & Bull Nakano vs. Takako Inoue & Toshiyo Yamada (clipped) 11. May 03 - Akira Hokuto vs. Toshiyo Yamada 12. May 04 - Akira Hokuto & Aja Kong vs. Bull Nakano & Kyoko Inoue (handheld) 13. May 08 - Akira Hokuto & Toshiyo Yamada vs. Yumiko Hotta & Manami Toyota 14. May 14 - Akira Hokuto & Mima Shimoda vs. Yumiko Hotta & Manami Toyota 15. May 19 - Akira Hokuto vs. Etsuko Mita (handheld) 16. Jun 03 - Akira Hokuto & Kyoko Inoue vs. Aja Kong & Bull Nakano 17. Jun 11 - Akira Hokuto vs. Kurenai Yasha 18. Jul 04 - Akira Hokuto vs. Suzuka Minami 19. Jul 26 - Akira Hokuto & Suzuka Minami vs. Yumiko Hotta & Toshiyo Yamada (shown in full on AJW Classics #75) 20. Aug 05 - Akira Hokuto vs. Harley Saito (shown in full on AJW Classics #76) 21. Aug 21 - Akira Hokuto vs. Manami Toyota 22. Aug 21 - Akira Hokuto vs. Yumiko Hotta 23. Aug 25 - Akira Hokuto vs. Rumi Kazama 24. Sep 05 - Akira Hokuto vs. Numacchi 25. Sep 05 - Akira Hokuto & Suzuka Minami vs. Yumiko Hotta & Takako Inoue 26. Oct 09 - Akira Hokuto vs. Aja Kong 27. Nov 09 - Akira Hokuto vs. Rumi Kazama (LLPW) 28. Nov 12 - Akira Hokuto & Manami Toyota vs. Aja Kong & Sakie Hasegawa 29. Nov 18 - Akira Hokuto vs. Mayumi Ozaki (JWP) 30. Nov 28 - Akira Hokuto & Suzuka Minami & Etsuko Mita & Mima Shimoda vs. Dynamite Kansai & Devil Masami & Mayumi Ozaki & Plum Mariko 31. Dec 06 - Akira Hokuto vs. Shinobu Kandori 32. Dec 10 - Akira Hokuto & Manami Toyota vs. Toshiyo Yamada & Kyoko Inoue 33. Dec 10 - Akira Hokuto & Manami Toyota vs. Toshiyo Yamada & Kyoko Inoue (this is a different match to #32) There may be a few more handhelds out there as I haven't put much effort into finding those. But anyway, I think that's more than adequate sampling of a wrestler to find out how good they were that year. 33 matches (most in full), 25 different individual opponents including a few matches outside her own promotion. It's way too much to just equate to only watching someone's big PPV matches and I don't think it's that different to what we have of Eddie really. For example for Eddie's 2004 we have 44 televised matches (including PPVs) with 21 different individual opponents, and Eddie's TV matches got cut up by advert breaks more than Hokuto's did.

He's far from the only culprit, but I wasn't high on Drew's indie run as I was constantly thrown off by him being this 6'5 behemoth yet he generally worked 50/50 with everyone.

I don't know what Kerry Von Erich is clearly better at than Roman Reigns other than he drew more/stuff outside his control? I guess the Von Erichs as a group were better than The Shield (though that's not a big gap for me). Even in terms of longevity Roman's probably been a great wrestler as long as Kerry had by now, and Roman shows no signs of slowing down. Better top end matches. More volume, his 2017 is one of the best WWE runs ever for just really good matches week-to-week with a variety of opponents. Better athlete, Roman has some of the best timing of any wrestler going, he can pull off big spots clincically like superpunching AJ Styles mid-Phenomenal Forearm which others just can't do properly. Roman easily.

I was just gonna go say that Kobashi's big NOAH run in 2003-05 is what puts him over the top here (and above those other three pillars). He'd have a Top 100 case for me even if he was just average in the 90s and then did that. Hokuto was a great wrestler for a lot longer than she generally gets credit for, I'm glad we seem to be moving beyond the "Hokuto's case was mainly made in 1993-94" talk and encourage people to check out her best stuff before and after. But she still wasn't a top tier wrestler for as many years as Kobashi.

Sasha's level of 'career achievement' pushes her over any recent Joshi candidates apart from Kana/Asuka. Mayu's had a lot of great matches working as a main eventer in a promotion that exists to put on great women's matches and a fanbase who come to see that, Sasha did it in a company which didn't take women's wrestling seriously at all and a fanbase who'd been trained to treat women's matches as bathroom breaks. People should read some of the threads on here from 2015-ish asking if stuff like if Sasha could event main event a WWE PPV and the notion being generally dismissed as silly (and not without good reason). And there's strictly 'wrestling ability' reasons why I think Sasha was able to achieve what she has. She's extremely versatile, a lot more than Mayu's ever shown. Her first big feud in NXT was with Charlotte, where she played a chickenshit pain adverse small heel bumping for the juggernaut monster babyface. She then feuded with Becky Lynch and had a technical classic based around armwork. Her most famous matches with Bayley are different again being worked in the more 'cinematic' character driven WWE style. She then turns babyface on the main roster and is probably the most over babyface in the company working as a Luchadora style underdog against Charlotte. After then you have matches with Alexa Bliss where she works in a lot of gymnastic style moves (Alexa is a gymnast) to have the best matches of Alexa's career. But then when she wrestles Alicia Fox it's all brawling on the floor and big punches because Alicia has an unhinged gimmick. Then Asuka moves up to the main roster and Sasha works a stiff style closer to how Asuka worked in Japan than anything else we've seen on her on the main roster. Sasha has so many people's best matches in WWE because she can change the way she wrestles just like that to best fit the abilities of her opponents. There's barely anyone else in wrestling right now who can do this so well, I don't see Mayu being able to pull that off if she were in that more challenging environment because she's never really worked much differently to how she does in any match except she works in more comedic stuff in her more regular matches than when she's in a big title match. Like when is the last time Mayu had a hate-filled brawl like Sasha had with Charlotte? Another thing I'd point to is Sasha is pretty remarkable at thinking on the fly when something seems to go wrong. She just turns it into part of the match. I remember Matt D making a similar point when we were watching the Bianca match at Wrestlemania this year. It's a nifty skill to have when you're almost always wrestling people who are below your level. This is a point I made in the Sasha thread: Mayu has a lot of 4 Star matches but they don't stand out as much as Sasha's do. I touched on this a bit earlier but there's also the fact that Sasha is generally wrestling significantly lower level of opponents than Mayu is. Like, what is Mayu's closest equivalent to having a really great match with a Bianca Belair? Someone else could answer that but I'm stumped on that one. The biggest chance she's had to wrestle big match with someone who isn't a great wrestler themselves is probably that MSG match with Kelly Klein, and that was not good at all. Has Mayu ever had a title match (or at least not just wrestling rookies or something when no one expects it to be good anyway) with a wrestler on the level of Carmella (TLC 2019) or Alexa Bliss (GBOF 2017)? I mean literally ever, nevermind had strong matches with them? I'm looking through her list of title matches/other stuff I have rated highly and there's nothing like that at all. Mayu wrestles some of the best female wrestlers in the world in big matches and rarely goes below that level. I think if you put their opponents into equivalent tiers, Sasha is generally having better and more memorable matches than Mayu has wrestling someone on the same level. Both are probably making my list but I think Sasha's gonna break the Top 50, Mayu slightly above 100 but both can go higher seeing how they're both adding to their cases and I don't totally rule out Mayu overtaking Sasha if she has some kind of change, but as things are no.

No you're confusing two different points, which is coming from people confusing stuff that was distinctively Manami Toyota with stuff that was general Joshiisms. 1. General Joshiisms = bridging out on pins, big bumps onto the neck. a fast rhythmic style, lots of crowd engagement. This is all stuff you'll find Joshi has a lot of whenever you watch it, but often people attribute this stuff to a specific wrestler probably because they're the first wrestler in that style they've seen and are confusing a house style with them as a worker. Joshi workers who do this stuff are just being Joshi workers. People seeing Manami Toyota do this stuff, and then seeing a later worker do it, and attributing it to 'Toyota influence' are confusing Joshiisms for Toyotaisms. 2. Individual Aspects: This is where Joshi workers build upon the foundational style and craft something of their own onto it. Manami Toyota has a lot of aspects to her style which were distinctive to her rather than just part of the house style. We'll call these Toyotaisms. Her distinctive elements I'd say are how she would put on matches that were primarily about putting on breathtaking displays of fired up athleticism and crazy moves. Loads of flying around with dropkicks and dangerous looking moonsaults. The multiple complicated suplex variations and headdrop moves as finishers and super-finishers. All delivered at breakneck speed. Almost no time for selling except right in the moment, there's more moves to hit. The most physically intense non-stop action crazy wrestling ever. That's Manami Toyota. Were Toyotaisms just part of the AJW house style? No. Others started to get in on it later, but she's the one who innovated that and the others were following. But most Joshi workers of the 90s never even tried to work like this. This is how she was stylistically unrepresentative of Joshi as a whole in her era. It's also what I'm referring to when I say no one really works like her anymore. I said: Chigusa (unlike Toyota and maybe most Joshi workers of that era) watched a lot of men's wrestling. She was a fan of Akira Maeda, brought elements of that UWFI style into Joshi and created something new with it. Nobody worked like that before her, and there's no Toshiyo Yamada, Dynamite Kansai, Yumiko Hotta etc without Chigusa. That lineage is still going strong today, in fact it's almost become a new Joshiism for the wrestlers to square off with these big stiff kick exchanges her influence was so strong there. You're getting a bit carried away with the 'Manami as an idol type' thing. I didn't say she was an idol and certainly did not say she didn't take herself seriously as a wrestler. I don't get what you're responding to tbh. All I said was she wasn't exactly unique in being a 'feminine' looking wrestler who wore 'elaborate ring attire' (those were your words) so I don't see any justification for claiming any Joshi worker who had a fancy girly outfit simply must have been influenced by Toyota "even if they're not aware of it". That kind of stuff is just how Joshi was moving anyway. Azumi Hyuga retired 12 years ago.

Positive influence certainly does. If you were not only great at wrestling, but also elevated the wrestling around you to higher levels, how is that not an aspect of greatness?

We're ranking "undersized Brock opponents" and we're not talking Eddie.

I know Brad Armstrong was better than The Ultimate Warrior and all but this is way too lop-sided. Cesaro is a Top 10 wrestler of the 2010s and is having another great year right now.

I just think the problem here is people just taking any kind of vague similarity between Manami Toyota and later wrestlers deciding that is some evidence of 'influence' when the vast majority of this is just general Joshiisms. Manami Toyota did not invent taking big crazy bumps. Have you seen Akira Hokuto wrestle? Mayumi Ozaki? The 80s Joshi scene is also full of this stuff, Kazue Nagahori probably took madder bumps than Toyota did, including backflips off lariats onto her neck. Go watch Tomi Aoyama matches, she retired in 1980 and she's already doing this stuff and that's when it kinda was new and calling her influential because of it may have some merit. ^For example. Manami Toyota hadn't even debuted yet. One plus of an 80s Joshi set being released is people will see big bumping workrate Joshi was already a thing long before the interpromotional era, even if the moves weren't as complex. And there's a simple 2 part explanation for why Joshi in general has a lot of this stuff. They are much lighter than male wrestlers, they can take these kinds of bumps without it being as damaging. And because Joshi developed separately to men's wrestling rather than just being an extension of it like in American wrestling, you see them go down this route more. Part 2 is the retirement at 25 rule that existed until the early 90s. This created a bigger riskier bumping style because the wrestlers did not need to worry about having a style that they could perform into their 40s and retire on their earnings because nobody expected to be wrestling very long anyway. That is the source of the big bumping style you see is widespread in Joshi both in Toyota's heydey and before she even wrestled. It is a product of environment, not the legacy of one wrestler. And likewise for 'feminine wrestlers' wrestling a workrate style. How does that not describe the Jumping Bomb Angels. Manami Toyota did an interview at a Chikara show here where she was asked about her influences and talks a lot about the JB Angels and even specifically mentions their feminine look. If anything it makes more sense to credit them for that influence, seeing how a lot more people were actually watching AJW in the JB Angels' heyday than Manami Toyota's peak. But really the reason why you see more feminine looking wrestlers with elaborate gear is Joshi is simply following wider cultural trends in Japan. Look at how the idol industry evolved in the last 40 years. Joshi was naturally going to turn into something like that because the previous schoolgirls/families fanbase of the 70s and 80s disappeared and by the mid-90s with the exception of GAEA (who you may note did not follow this trend) the fanbase became 90% adult men. Again, this is a product of environment, not the legacy of just one wrestler. It's not like Toyota was even unique 'feminine with elaborate gear' either. Look at Takako Inoue, Mayumi Ozaki and Cutie Suzuki at the same time. That's already where things were going. As for who influenced the modern style of Joshi more. Well Jaguar and Chigusa obviously. But with them you can actually point to new and different things they did that others went on to adopt. Like taking elements of UWFI strikes and incorporating it into Joshi, that's Chigusa. That's a specific thing she did that there just isn't precedent for but loads of wrestlers afterwards worked like that. Before that there's Beauty Pair for establishing the Joshi tag-team prototype with the butch/fem dynamic, which was still the standard in the 90s. Mariko Akagi is someone we don't have enough footage of to really prove with our own eyes, but we consistently hear from interviews that she's primarily responsible for innovating a lot of the 'workrate' Joshi style and from the 2 full matches we have of her that still looks very plausible. Devil Masami is a big name because she basically created and defined the role of the aging veteran in Joshi, which literally did not even exist before her as everyone retired. After that you've got Mariko Yoshida for training so many wrestlers and creating a new style in ARSION with the RINGS-influenced grappling, which although nobody outright works like that anymore it still introduced that style into Joshi and you see Kana/Asuka, Syuri have carried on some of that stuff. Meiko is still a lot higher because she trained so many wrestlers, even if they don't all work like her (a lot of them do though, like Kagetsu is an obvious Meiko trainee with how she structures things and just works a lot slower than is typical). Emi Sakura is probably the biggest of the last decade or so as she trained so many wrestlers in Ice Ribbon and Gatoh Move with the philosophy that 'everyone can be a pro-wrestler' and has led to a big increase in not exactly athletically talented people becoming pro-wrestlers by working around those limitations, which someone needed to do as Joshi's falling popularity meant it couldn't just pick recruits from the top high school athletes anymore. There's probably some names I forgot, but that should at least get across what 'wavelength' I'm on when talking about influence. It's specific unique stuff that you did which changed the direction of the scene in a way that can be evidenced, not just spotting vague similarities and joining dots on a whim. Applying that to Toyota, I'd say her influence really lies in how she'd come up with increasingly complicated versions of moves as 'super-finishers' like the Japanese Ocean Cyclone Suplex, I can't think of anyone else in Joshi doing that before her, and later versions of that seem in line with those naming conventions (or at least wherever Rossy Ogawa's booking) I think that's evidence linking it to her. Momo Watanabe is who you should be talking about then, not Mayu Iwatani.

Mate this happened like 10 times in 2018 alone. It was his standard match layout. Chris Adams. He was a good wrestler so is clearly better than Seth Rollins.