Loss Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Talk about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 As an 80s fan, I do still notice when Flair and Hogan are in the same ring, although it's a little sad and weird that it eventually became commonplace to see them around each other when Flair/Hogan was such a dream match for so long. Lots of planted Hogan merchandise around the ring, as this was the height of astroturf Hogan fan support. Anyway, this match is somewhat heated and fun, but kind of rushed. I have to ask if Flair wearing Hogan's colors is breaking some kind of secret wrestler's code? Also, the scene at the end of all the Horsemen begging off from Hogan at the same time is ridiculous. Bischoff was a TERRIBLE announcer who only knew how to speak in platitudes, and yes, I realize the irony of that sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I like how during this time frame there were plants with signs with the most nondescript messages. Like "Hulk" or "WCW # 1" I always kind of hated how Bischoff would put Flair down on commentary. IIRC the Giant/Flair title change match is a total burial on his part (again IIRC) edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxNGvyeBtc well not really but still pretty smarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yeah, I'm not sure Bischoff was a guy who understood wrestling well enough to know how to properly get over a heel at the announce booth. At the time, he was smart enough to leave the nuts and bolts of his vision to people who knew how to execute, and eventually, thank God he realized Schiavone was a better choice on commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 The more post 80s Flair I watch over the years, the less I love him ( with exceptions, like 1992). But even if he's a bit dull at times, no one can fault his willingness to bump for the other guys. And in a case like this one, his usually comic overselling is a benefit because it makes Hogan seem more impactful. Hogan does seem to be moving slowly, and the crowd that granted him cricket chirps and boos on his entrance is not a crowd going to genuinely chant his name later unless he really gets rolling. There just wasn't much to draw me into this match, though Arn's appearance at the end injected some life. I just thought it all felt very paint by numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Briscoe_Is_My_Hero Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I disagree with Kronus to a point. When a man is happy at work, his production is very good. Flair's production started going south when he wasn't happy and was not the #1 guy. He had fantastic matches in 94 pre-hogan. He gives a good effort here however. Hogan's sold a Ric Flair suplex like King Kong Bundy gave him a big splash from the top rope. Who convulses after a suplex from Flair? I do not like the booking at the end with the Horsemen begging off from a stool welding Hogan. Even with the title Flair is not #1. Hogan's cage match goes on after the Flair/Savage World Title cage match at SuperBrawl in February. I wish the DoD would have jumped Hogan and ripped him a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I thought this was a solid match. Flair was good at bumping around for Hogan's stuff. I liked Flair working over Hogan's leg which Hogan did a good job selling. I didn't appreciate all of the Horseman looking like pussys. Still this was fun with good heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoos Leg Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 The end, from Hogan no selling the knucks shot to having all four Horsemen on their knees, was quite silly. Hogan definitely did a good job selling the knee, and the delayed suplex by Flair was very impressive. Very solid match. Real hot crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 An interesting match to open the year. Flair is obviously still good at putting on one man TV shows at this point and Hogan getting boo'ed out of the building by the Atlanta crowd was entertaining. I do agree the post-match Horsemen booking was ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbaugh Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Pretty fun match actually, and the crowd was hot for it too. But I couldn't stop thinking about Flair rocking the red and yellow boots and kneepads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Bischoff talks about cheap shark. Damn you Tenta. Oh, he meant cheap skate. I don’t remember Jimmy Hart with Flair at this point. Hogan completely no sells a Arn Anderson shot. This was more rushed than their WWF matches in 91. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Rushed TV match, which isn't a format that suits Hogan well, making his no-selling even more random and annoying. Flair's delayed suplex was quite impressive. Hogan's stupid overselling wasn't. Hogan no selling the brass knuckles was even worse and it made Arn look like a complete dork since he was KOed earlier by Savage using the same object. The nWo turn can't come too soon, Hogan is unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiserBrody Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Watching Nitro week by week now makes the Hogan antics to stay over more and more unbearable. Not sure how/why I didn't develop more apathy for him at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 This announce team is um.... not good. Weird to hear Mongo talk to in the pre Horseman fans about Flair. I think this was the only Nitro held in Atlanta that I didn't attend live. I have always been pretty high on these two and their chemistry and this was a fine tv match with all the big spots hit and a neat dynamic of Flair getting a big amount of vocal support from the crowd. Hart runs out at the end and Bischoff is outraged. Big schmozz breaks out at the finish with the DOD and Horseman coming in. Brutus is yelling some nonsense. Macho is out to help out Hogan. Yeah. (**1/4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Good little sprint between these two, with a super-hot crowd that cheers for Hogan's entrance but turns on him as the match goes on. Arn tries a repeat of the Starrcade finish, but Hogan no-sells the knux shot. Way to make Savage look like a complete chump, Hulk. Then Hogan singlehandedly takes down all four Horsemen and has all of them begging in front of him, a scene that set the burgeoning IWC into a blind rage and almost does the same to me here. Savage comes in to prevent a Giant sneak attack. The announcers spend more time marveling over the Zodiac speaking than anything else that just happened. This was equal parts entertaining, bizarre, and infuriating, often all at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 I like the Flair/Hogan matchup and I dig this one too and I like the idea of starting your TV year off with a big match like this. Hogan has some decent leg selling at times here that is totally done by the time he’s attempting to emasculate all of the Horsemen. A ridiculous finish, thank god he went heel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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