Mad Dog Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I think it's just Peck leaving for the time being. This is Mike Quackenbush, he's not going to let the nerd lose to the jock at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 As a sidenote. It amazes me that RoH has him on the roster and he's so forgettable. They really do suck all the life and fun out of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Dave said on the LAW last night that it would be a big business story, but not something that a lot of people cared about. He even made the reference to TNA and their "major news" that always ends up disappointing. Of course nobody who wrote about it on the internet reported that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooley Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I think people are just excited because it'll mean better UFC video games. I haven't seen anyone consider this earth-shaking business news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Glad to see Kane prove me right. He has stepped it up the last few weeks, the Punk match on Smackdown and tonight were both really good. This Bryan program is the best feud Punk has had in forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I love how the underlying theme of tonight's Raw has been if you hate John Cena then you're in agreement with the most hated and annoying person in WWE (Cole). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 The issue of unionization in wrestling might be worth a topic of its own, but there's a piece in The New Republic that discusses a lot of the same issues in UFC. http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazi...p-bill-culinary Of particular note is the following passage: Some of the fighters were aware of this mistreatment. Four-time middleweight UFC champion Frank "The Legend" Shamrock had the Screen Actors Guild look at his contracts after he was invited by Chuck Norris to appear on "Walker, Texas Ranger." "They said, 'These people are raping you!'" Shamrock recalls. I can only imagine how they'd react to a WWE contract, particularly the death clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Dave said on the LAW last night that it would be a big business story, but not something that a lot of people cared about. He even made the reference to TNA and their "major news" that always ends up disappointing. Of course nobody who wrote about it on the internet reported that part. It's not a big business story. THQ is a dying company, and has been. A bigger business story would have been THQ going into BK, the license being of use to UFC until it got untangled and a new buyer was found. Instead, they got out before then (or from the THQ side they were able to offload the license). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Even if THQ goes under, I don't see that having much effect on WWE. All that means is they switch video games companies, something they have done at least 2 or 3 times in the past. Someone is going to covet that license because the games always sell. Why the fuck was anyone trying to hype this as "BIG NEWS"? "OH MY GOD I WAS SWORN TO SECRECY AND I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THIS THING YOU REALLY AREN'T GOING TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 The issue of unionization in wrestling might be worth a topic of its own, but there's a piece in The New Republic that discusses a lot of the same issues in UFC. http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazi...p-bill-culinary Of particular note is the following passage: Some of the fighters were aware of this mistreatment. Four-time middleweight UFC champion Frank "The Legend" Shamrock had the Screen Actors Guild look at his contracts after he was invited by Chuck Norris to appear on "Walker, Texas Ranger." "They said, 'These people are raping you!'" Shamrock recalls. I can only imagine how they'd react to a WWE contract, particularly the death clause. Isn't now the best period to try and unionize ? Sure, there's a monopoly, but there's also a very limited pool of talent, it's not like the WWE can dispose of a vasta array of already-made stars with big name they can buy from other companies or territories. If the 4 or 5 bigger names in WWE, including Cena of course, decide to launch an union, there's no way Vince can do anything about it, because he just has a super limited roster at this point, and a totally depleted pool of young talents he can use (not to mention WWE can't seem to be able to make new stars anymore). Of course it'll never happen, which is a shame, but I think it would actually be easier now than it ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I love how the underlying theme of tonight's Raw has been if you hate John Cena then you're in agreement with the most hated and annoying person in WWE (Cole). They're trying too hard. Remember when RAW was all about Brock lesnar killing John Cena ? Now we get comedy with Micheal Cole. What about CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan putting on great match ? Now we get Kane and AJ girlfriend storyline mixed in. I hope some kidnapping and rape takes place, to measure up with your usual Kane storyline. I just noticed than Dolph Ziggler totally looked like Billy Gunn. I wonder what's behind the thinking process of having a Goldberg clone in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Even if THQ goes under, I don't see that having much effect on WWE. All that means is they switch video games companies, something they have done at least 2 or 3 times in the past. Someone is going to covet that license because the games always sell. Why the fuck was anyone trying to hype this as "BIG NEWS"? "OH MY GOD I WAS SWORN TO SECRECY AND I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THIS THING YOU REALLY AREN'T GOING TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT!"Because it's a big story and I was, in fact, sworn to secrecy on it until it was announced? The only people hyping it up were the guys at the F4W board reacting to Dave's tease, I just confirmed it was a big story. WWE has changed their home video game publisher exactly once: Acclaim to THQ in the late '90s, which was, in fact, a big story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Because it's a big story In what way? I'm in agreement with most everyone else in the who gives a fuck department on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 in the late 90s, early early 00s, during the boom, those WWF games were HUGE. Just huge social things amongst teenagers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Absolutely. The ability for the player to create characters was a huge step forward in making things more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Because it's a big story In what way? I'm in agreement with most everyone else in the who gives a fuck department on this one. The publisher that holds the WWE and UFC licenses (who is hemmoraging money and about to be delisted by the NASDAQ) is in such rough shape that they sold the UFC license and fired everyone in their San Diego studio. While UFC3 didn't do especially well and was down from the 2009 and 2010 games, it did make a profit. While this gets them some cash (I guess we'll find out how much at the end of June when they release their quarterly financial statements), this is a pretty bad sign for them. Cancellation or delay of WWE games would be bad for both WWE as a company and much worse for the undercard wrestlers who make the bulk of their income from the royalty checks. Meltzer pegged it as $35K per wrestler years ago and I'm under the impression the checks have gotten bigger. WWE '13 should still come out but next year is more of a question mark. UFC becoming a sports property under EA changes how the game is marketed. Dana White implord yesterday that EA is able to distribute into a lot more countries than THQ. Also, THQ has been pushing the franchise to fighting game (as in Street Fighter, Tekken, etc) fans and failing to get traction. Plus, regardless of all this: WWE going from Acclaim to THQ was big story, too, it was just more interesting to non gamers because THQ jumped from WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Even if THQ goes under, I don't see that having much effect on WWE. All that means is they switch video games companies, something they have done at least 2 or 3 times in the past. Someone is going to covet that license because the games always sell. Why the fuck was anyone trying to hype this as "BIG NEWS"? "OH MY GOD I WAS SWORN TO SECRECY AND I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THIS THING YOU REALLY AREN'T GOING TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT!"Because it's a big story and I was, in fact, sworn to secrecy on it until it was announced? The only people hyping it up were the guys at the F4W board reacting to Dave's tease, I just confirmed it was a big story. For the WWE and UFC? Not really that big. It's about 5% of the Revenue of the WWE: $24.6M out of $483.9M last year. It's about 11% of the gross profit: $18.5M out of $168.7M. If that money vanished for a year or more while the WWE tried to find a new publisher and factoring in all the lead time to develop and release the product... it wouldn't be a killer to the WWE. PPV, which folks have been running around in House on Fire mode about the declines, was $78.3M in revenue last year (16% of company revenue) and $40.7M in gross profits (24% of company gross profits). Triple the revenue, more than double the GP. It's not really that big. For UFC, it's an even smaller % of their revenue after the Fox deal was signed. From a business standpoint, it's a bit like saying an undercard guy getting hurt is a big deal to the WWE. Not trying to shit on it, since it's an *interesting* story. It just isn't a big business story. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I loved Cole's line that he donated his singlet to the Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Could someone look into what Dave said in that interview (the one on Graham's site) about house show takes being cut? We haven't talked about that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Raw got a 2.9 last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Could someone look into what Dave said in that interview (the one on Graham's site) about house show takes being cut? We haven't talked about that, right?He definitely discusses it in the 2/26 episode of WO Radio. He might have also mentioned it in the 2/24 episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 This is very interesting news. I'm not really up on Resistance Pro's progress, but the elements could be in place if this show is done right, to get them the right kind of exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I'm currently watching some ECW from 2006 and Kurt Angle is on the roster. Now I remember him having the match with Sabu where RVD tries to do a Van Daminator and misses Angle's face by a mile. The next week, Angle is booked in a triple threat Ladder match vs RVD and Sabu but is taken out by Paul Heyman for some injury. Before the match, Angle attacks Heyman and the Bashams backstage. Was that Angle's last appearance on tv? I think it was because he was released before Summerslam if I remember since Sabu got the title shot vs Big Show. The next week, they announce that Angle has been released from his contract. That surprised me that they announced it cause they hardly ever did that or do it now on air. Interesting that the only three people still on the WWE roster that was on the ECW roster are Kelly, Punk and Scott Armstrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 and Big Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Teddy Long was the General Manager of ECW for a while before he went to Smackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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