anarchistxx Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 They should keep them all face for now, all are really over, no need to rush it. There is months and maybe years of mileage down the line if they hold off and do the break up properly. Ambrose/Ziggler could be a decent little midcard feud if he does turn I suppose, and Ambrose/Rollins. They should go all the way make him into a really nasty creep if he does turn, threatening families, sneak attacks, sleazing over women, Ambrose is perfect for that role. That Lesnar EAT SLEEP BREAK THE STREAK VEST is amazing, they need to start selling those in WWE shop. This Undertaker thing is boring, crowd are starting to get restless. Surely they can think of more interesting ways to build his matches? Every year it is endless, long segments of creepy music and caskets and 'mystical' goings on, it looks frankly ludicrous when he is in there with someone like Brock Lesnar who seems like he can't believe the ridiculousness of what he is having to do for his $4 million a year.
goodhelmet Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Meltzer (I think) keeps saying that it'll be better if Ambrose/Rollins turn heel on Reigns than if Reigns turns face on them, but I don't know about that. The way Rollins keeps stealing the show, they are setting themselves up for another year of rebellious crowds if they try and turn him back into a heel and it will only hurt the Reigns push.
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Lesnar looks like Barney Rubble on steroids.
dexstar Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 If Brock Lesnar hits an F5 on an empty casket, I will mark out harder than I have in years.
anarchistxx Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 All this 'magically appears in a casket' stuff is about twenty years out of date. This match would be way better if they sold it as a personal war, with a sense of hatred - sorry, 'intense dislike' - about it.
hammerva Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 speaking of merchandise, I am glad that they finally decided to sell a Golddust mask. You would have thought that would be a no brainer Never could figure out how Taker does this with the empty casket gimmick that all of the sudden contains Taker. Lesnar with another insane bump landing head first on the casket and didn't phase him one bit.
hammerva Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 I guess there was a Wyatt vs Shield post show match right now judging from the entrance music on backstage pass
benj Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 It was embarrassingly quiet when Taker started throwing punches on Brock.
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 It's funny, back in the early nineties I hated Takers magic stuff, but now I fucking love it. If you can't just have fun and say "It's magic" then just think, "Taker's doing mind games with the help of the Druids who are David Copperfield, Chriss Angel, and a team of special effects experts who work for him." And I'm sure Brock is ok, he landed on his marble noggin.
Jmare007 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 The Taker/Brock build reminds me of Taker/Michaels WM 26 build. Were Taker kept mocking/owning HBK and then retired him at Mania If they are scared of Taker taking a big bump before the PPV, then don't make him do faceoffs because they are forced to make him look dominant when he doesn't need it.
Strummer Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 some posters at DVDVR are saying Steph carried the opening segment. Man she was real good but damn Batista and Orton just killed me. People have been saying she's carried all the angles the past few weeks I don't see that. Everyone played their parts well, especially tonight
hammerva Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 She carried the segment in the sense that she just owned the crowd. Those YES and CM PUNK and Daniel Bryan didn't mean shit to her and deliver a great line telling fans that it doesn't matter because he isn't showing up tonight
Strummer Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 I have no idea what the deal was with her missing her cue in the backstage bit. That was awkward
Bierschwale Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Best night of in ring action all year? Three great matches already with an hour to go. Cody-Fandango was also a very good mid-card match, and Dustin's dancing was exceptional.
Blazer Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Did I see that correctly? Orton vs. Bautista next week on Raw, a week before Mania? Why would they give away the Mania main event a week before the show?
(BP) Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Now that it's definitely a three way it just follows their normal pattern of the three guys all working singles matches against each other going into the ppv.
cm funk Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Never could figure out how Taker does this with the empty casket gimmick that all of the sudden contains Taker. There's two ways I've heard - The casket has a fake bottom. He's underneath the "empty casket" as it's rolled to the ring. It's shown as empty and then closed and he gets into position inside it. I imagine there's a pretty elaborate spring action and lock on the inside and something he can use to grip and pull himself into the proper position or - He's under the ring (why it's always rolled directly sideways against the ring) and enters the casket from there I've heard both over the years and they've probably used both methods at different times. I'd guess due to his age/condition that they used the first method here, but they have different tricks they use to get guys under the ring in the middle of a show too
flyonthewall2983 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 For sake of argument, if he's under the ring, how does he get there?
Jimmy Redman Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 The same way anyone does. They go under a hood surrounded by crew people while the lights are turned off during a video/other distracting distraction. Or go before the show starts, stay there all night and poop under the ring. But that seems less common these days.
dawho5 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Sean, there are those us -- myself, El-P, some others too -- who have completely given up on it. There's enough footage from the 80s alone probably to last me a lifetime. To be honest, when there's the entirety of any given promotion you care to name from 1985 to watch, I can't see any reason at all to devote any of my wrestling time to watching this week's RAW. Once I've seen all of the 80s sets, all of the 90s yearbooks, every single NWA and WCW PPV, and any other disc here that I happen to have, maybe I'll consider watching RAW again then. Count me in this group. Once I'm finished with 90s AJPW, I'll probably be putting a lot of time into 80s wrestling both stateside and Japan as well as the 2000-2009 puro project Ditch is doing. From there I have about 5 different directions I could easily go wrestling-wise and I'll probably eventually get to all of them. Not to mention that from what I've seen of current WWE I'll be vastly more entertained by all of the above. Not saying it's awful or anything, just don't dig the wrestling style even if it is loads better than any WWE product I've watched in a long time as far as in-ring goes.
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Did I see that correctly? Orton vs. Bautista next week on Raw, a week before Mania? Why would they give away the Mania main event a week before the show?Because in no way will it be a match as much as it will be an angle.
shoe Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 When dealing with the Wyatt's motivation I like Johnny Sorrows backstory where Black Jack Mulligan was always under Kevin Sullivan's control. Thus Kevin Sullivan is the force behind the Wyatts
dexstar Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 It was embarrassingly quiet when Taker started throwing punches on Brock. That's because the crowd was in awe of the spectacle SummerSlam '94 Undertaker vs Underfaker style Seriously though, this stuck out to me too. I thought the physical contact was a bit of a misfire for that build. Seems kinda unnecessary - I'd prefer if they'd kept them apart physically right up until Brock charges through the druids to start the match at 'Mania or something. I wonder if part of the lackluster live reaction has to do with many in the crowd just kinda intrinsically knowing that it wasn't going to be any type of wild pull apart brawl. I know watching it I just assumed it would be a couple punches and then stare down, exactly like it was, which is hard to get fired up for.
Matt D Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Hunter's promo last night was one of the best of his career.
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