Fantastic Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 At this stage of the game, when his NJPW deal comes up, if I were WWE, I'd offer Shinsuke Nakamura a high six-figure contract to come over to America. Nakamura in my opinion, is without a doubt the best professional wrestler in the world at this time. He has not only mastered Strong Style, but it seems he "gets" the kind of entertainment and flourishy style of the American promotions and could very quickly adapt what he does best to the WWE mix. Asides from Inoki's handful of International exhibition matches, the most successful Japanese wrestler to crossover to the states has been Muta. I strongly suspect Nakamura could greatly surpass Muta's achievements and become the most successful Japanese wrestler in WWE history. What's more, the possibilities write themselves, there's an endless list of talent that Nakamura could work with and have drawing feuds and ****+ matches with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Since it won't hit the Network for a few weeks: I loved how the Lucha Dragons really had to earn the shine. There was a feeling that Tyson/Cesaro were just so good that they could be back on top at any moment, but also that the Dragons were good enough to prevent that. The transition was great. So much character and punctuated with a German. I thought they started to layer in the hope spots a little bit early, which on the one hand is fine since they wer transitioning out of the shine and that makes logical sense, but it doesn't "feel" right when it comes to a southern tag. I'm sure it was tied to match length because this really need two or three minutes more of heat before the hot tag. The catch outside into an armdrag was a little weird but I liked the idea of it. On the other hand, the DDT spot towards the end was a great nearfall. Very well executed and theu went back to it with Cesaro's huge spinebuster. Maybe the coolest thing about Cesaro/Kidd is their use of blind tags/shots from the outside in at key moments and it was great to see Kidd being the one to do it here to set up the finish. Enjoyable TV tag match but needed about 2-3 more minutes of heat. It makes me think they have a really good PPV match in them though. Probably a great house show pairing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Can somebody smarter than me explain what's going on with Main Event? I know it has something to do with the UK TV deal. Are we going to get it on delay like Raw and Smackdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 At this stage of the game, when his NJPW deal comes up, if I were WWE, I'd offer Shinsuke Nakamura a high six-figure contract to come over to America. Nakamura in my opinion, is without a doubt the best professional wrestler in the world at this time. He has not only mastered Strong Style, but it seems he "gets" the kind of entertainment and flourishy style of the American promotions and could very quickly adapt what he does best to the WWE mix. Asides from Inoki's handful of International exhibition matches, the most successful Japanese wrestler to crossover to the states has been Muta. I strongly suspect Nakamura could greatly surpass Muta's achievements and become the most successful Japanese wrestler in WWE history. What's more, the possibilities write themselves, there's an endless list of talent that Nakamura could work with and have drawing feuds and ****+ matches with. Giant Baba was a fairly big star in the States in the early-60s, much bigger than Inoki or Muta, and once headlined against the WWWF champ in MSG (Bruno), the NWA champ in St. Louis (Thesz) and the WWA champ in LA (Blassie-this belt was considered by many the #2 title in the country at the time) in the same month. Sleeze and Grimmas, you think you can take this man down tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJH Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 The Hogan/WrestleMania piece in the concourse is permanent, right? or is that the same deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 The Washington Post article I read said the Hogan banner is permanent with the Knicks and Rangers retired numbers. It's located between the Knicks and Liberty banners, but I don't know if those are up all year round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy hats Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 A good friend works for msg and disputed its permanency before I even brought it up over text this morning. We'll see, as jdw so famously said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Brock showed up at UFC tonight sitting next to Dana, WWE getting trolled so hard right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Not a bad suit on Brock. He should've shown up with the world heavyweight title and called himself, "the real world champion." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Considering Samoa and Tonga are interchangeable in pro wresting, you guys can look forward to the Uso's vs. Camacho and Tama Tonga. Samoa and Tonga? Shit, Vince thinks China and Japan are interchangeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Considering Samoa and Tonga are interchangeable in pro wresting, you guys can look forward to the Uso's vs. Camacho and Tama Tonga. Samoa and Tonga? Shit, Vince thinks China and Japan are interchangeable. You mean "The Orient" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Brock showed up at UFC tonight sitting next to Dana, WWE getting trolled so hard right now. The closer we are getting to Wrestlemania the more I am thinking that Brock vs Reigns is going to make Brock vs Goldberg at WM 20 look like a normal RAW in Philly. You already have a guy in Reigns that the majority of the crowd doesn't want in the main event and now you got Brock who looks more and more likely he isn't coming back for a while. Just not a good situation. They really have to pull the trigger on having Rollins cash in the MITB briefcase that night instead of RAW the next night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lacelle Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 The difference with Brock/Goldberg is that it was at MSG, which makes for far better acoustics for chants and what not. At a stadium and with way more casual fans there wil not be nearly the same reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 I think Brock's just being Brock. I don't think he views UFC as more than a leverage play for his negotiations with Vince, and Dana probably doesn't mind helping him in that. UFC certainly needs him back if he actually wants to go, as most of their shows are basically WWE Battleground levels of mediocre/bad at this point. They're in the same boat as WWE of having to produce too much content with not enough stars. Nothing feels important aside from the main event, and maybe the co-main, and everybody is the same GH'ed up guy with tatoos and an unfortunate haircut - and that's the opinion of someone who watches the shows every month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 You know they are kicking themselves for giving Rollins that briefcase. They clearly want to push him but not at the expense of Reigns. Like Meltz said all these ideas sounded good to them six months to a year ago, but now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Well they could've booked him to cash it in on Lesnar like we were saying months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 The difference with Brock/Goldberg is that it was at MSG, which makes for far better acoustics for chants and what not. At a stadium and with way more casual fans there wil not be nearly the same reaction. Casual Fans are not what I think of when I think of Wrestlemania. Those tickets are not cheap. You have hardcore fans from all over the world flying over to go to it. Same with RAW the night after. It's been this way for the past few years. Crowd is gonna be loud & super smarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Wiz Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 The big difference is that, this time, Brock won't be seen as 'abandoning' wrestling, but rather getting fed up with WWE bs and moving on. It might end up making him the biggest face on the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Can somebody smarter than me explain what's going on with Main Event? I know it has something to do with the UK TV deal. Are we going to get it on delay like Raw and Smackdown? They couldn't get around Sky having UK exclusivity to the first run of Main Event. Since WWE is only programming one network feed, it's not being shown live anymore, instead being added to on demand on a few week delay when the Sky window runs out (similar to the guidelines for Raw and SmackDown replays being added). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Mets via Reddit: The argument that lead to Brock Lesnar storming out of Raw last week was that Brock wanted to go to the UFC show this past weekend and discuss a potential deal with the UFC. Vince McMahon was strongly against this as long as Brock was under WWE contract. Brock stormed out of the building and as we all know, showed up at the UFC show. Unless Vince pulls a miracle off, it is just a matter of time before we see Brock Lesnar headlining another UFC pay-per-view. He basically explicitly confirmed what Dave was suggesting last week. It's not looking good, but I have a suspicion that this is all part of Brock trying to get leverage for a better WWE deal. I mean, what's Brock going to go back to UFC for? 1, maybe 2 big time matches? Sure, it's a ton of money, but he could very realistically epically fail in his return match. He's 38 and no Randy Couture, he'll never be Heavyweight champion again. Everything Brock has done in WWE in the past couple of years has significantly enhanced the product. They would be fools to lose him. Does anybody think that given the concessions Brock has received thus far, that should he really have the itch to fight, that WWE might actually allow him to compete in an MMA match whilst under contract, provided he re-signs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Brock loves being in this position of power to have guys like Vince & Dana fighting for his love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I totally buy into the conventional wisdom that Brock Lesnar is a hermit who just wants to stay in his home in the woods, with Sable and a bunch of bales of hay he moves for fun, and he only leaves the house because he wants to compete and hurt people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 ...and hunt animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I don't think WWE would really lose anything except a huge talent expense if Brock were to leave. They don't know how to book him effectively as a part time attraction and while I appreciate them trying to use Brock to build Roman Reigns as their next big star, it feels really late at this point. Like, he should have put over Sheamus or Ryback 2 years ago instead he had to come in and immediately lose to Cena and then waste way too much time in a HHH feud. His matches have mostly been good to REALLY good and his TV segments are usually a lot of fun but has he REALLY enhanced the overall product? He isn't there enough and they haven't been smart enough to figure out a way to have him on TV every week without having him actually be there in the arena so they go seemingly months at a time barely mentioning him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Wiz Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 They used him badly for the first bit, but he's been used perfectly since he ended the streak. And a big part of that is that he's NOT on TV every week. Just about everyone on the roster is so overexposed at this point that having him show up every two or three months has been great. He changes the atmosphere of shows he's on and has been by far the best thing going in WWE over the past year. Makes me long for the never going to happen idea of a rotating off season for wrestlers where everyone on the roster disappears from TV for a month or two every year just to freshen up, if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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