Timbo Slice Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 People forget Baron Corbin was a legit 350 before he cut all that weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 i feel like you have more "thick/compact" guys in WWE these days than a few years ago, actually. thinking of the wyatt family, steen (yeah he's lost weight but still), rusev, et al. guys who would still get called fat by internet nerds even though they're clearly in shape, basically. i think mid-2000s joe wouldn't look out of place there anymore. honestly that's a trend i really love, because those are the kinds of bodies you're more likely to see with actual strong dudes. the jacked-up six-pack look tends to be a sign of weakness if anything, due to the extreme dieting normally required to achieve that. now if only they would start applying that open-mindedness to the women... EDIT: yep, similar points made above while i forgot to post this haha. we talked about corbin in another thread but i'm not going to assume he was a case of WWE forcing someone to get skinnier - football players who are that heavy usually want to lose weight themselves once their careers are over. there's "thick/compact" and then there's "heavy to the point of stressing your joints & bones". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Vince's head will explode if someone explains the millenial "body positive" concept to him. Also, Big Show has trimmed down considerably. He's probably leaner than he's ever been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Vince's head will explode if someone explains the millenial "body positive" concept to him. I have no idea what this is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Vince's head will explode if someone explains the millenial "body positive" concept to him. I have no idea what this is about. I would assume it's the idea that even people who are not the ideal body shape/size don't have to feel negative about their looks. I haven't heard it expressed as a millennial idea before, but Vince probably thinks anyone born after 1975 is in that group anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 There is a big movement to recognize beauty in people that aren't conventionally attractive. The fat acceptance movement has also gathered some momentum. Any type of shaming is pretty frowned upon now. Lots of cultural changes happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Is Vince really so out of touch that he doesn't realize how this comes across to the average person? I'm not as surprised by Vince's appearance (which was likely airbrushed a good deal - I mean, I'm not saying the dude isn't in great shape, but from what I know about magazine/commercial photography, if the public is seeing it, it's been touched up), as I am about the ridiculous word choice. "Better than ever at 69"? If I read the article, is that fact confirmed by Linda? If yes, I think I taste my lunch coming back up. Meltzer absolutely BURIED this magazine cover the other day. Said Vince needs to grow up, reassess his priorities and called it sad and pathetic. Funny hearing him get so worked up about it. It's that crazy bastard Vince - what can you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 There is a big movement to recognize beauty in people that aren't conventionally attractive. The fat acceptance movement has also gathered some momentum. Any type of shaming is pretty frowned upon now. Lots of cultural changes happening. Weird because a parallel anti-obesity campaign is occuring just as aggressively. People are getting told that fat is beautiful at the same time as being told that fat is unhealthy and killing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 There is a big movement to recognize beauty in people that aren't conventionally attractive. The fat acceptance movement has also gathered some momentum. Any type of shaming is pretty frowned upon now. Lots of cultural changes happening. Weird because a parallel anti-obesity campaign is occuring just as aggressively. People are getting told that fat is beautiful at the same time as being told that fat is unhealthy and killing them. I don't think those are mutually exclusive. By all means you can be proud and happy if you are overweight, but it doesn't mean you aren't going to take years off your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 well the other part of this that barely gets any media play is that "fat and fit" is very much a real thing as well. society's definition of "athletic" is rather narrow, to the point that you'll see superheavyweight olympic lifters dismissed as "not REAL athletes" because they don't have abs or whatever. mark rippetoe (famous weightlifting coach) has said a lot of interesting things about this, even if he can be an annoying jackass in other ways. there was a fascinating case where he took a skinny couch potato and trained him to the point where he could squat over 400 pounds. he published shirtless before & after pictures of the guy, and they showed someone growing a noticeable pot belly with no visible muscle definition anywhere...yet he was an infinitely better athlete in that "flabby" photo than he was in the "skinny" one. quite a clever inversion of the usual before-and-after fitness narrative, in my view! many of the health issues commonly tied to being overweight are more likely the result of no exercise, eating lots of junk, and/or eating way too much even if it's "healthy" food (the sneakiest one). it is definitely possible to avoid all of those pitfalls and still be "chunky" or bigger. if you're eating 8000+ calories a day like NFL linemen or bull nakano during her wrestling career, then yeah you need to make some changes eventually...but it's ridiculous to assume that's everyone's situation. that said, a case like big show would likely fall into the "legit health reasons" category. again, joints & bones...that's the main problem that you CAN directly tie to weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 some stuff from PWI: Bryan is facing either Sheamus or Ziggler at Mania Sting will not be on Raw tonight AJ is due back to TV very soon. And damn is this going to be awkward. I wonder if they have her involved with the Bellas or they do the long awaited Steph program for Mania? Either way I think a Steph/AJ feud is a lock for sometime this year. Although with the lawsuit how much "shoot" stuff will be allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 some stuff from PWI: Bryan is facing either Sheamus or Ziggler at Mania Fuck Sheamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Is Vince really so out of touch that he doesn't realize how this comes across to the average person? I'm not as surprised by Vince's appearance (which was likely airbrushed a good deal - I mean, I'm not saying the dude isn't in great shape, but from what I know about magazine/commercial photography, if the public is seeing it, it's been touched up), as I am about the ridiculous word choice. "Better than ever at 69"? If I read the article, is that fact confirmed by Linda? If yes, I think I taste my lunch coming back up. Meltzer absolutely BURIED this magazine cover the other day. Said Vince needs to grow up, reassess his priorities and called it sad and pathetic. Funny hearing him get so worked up about it. It's that crazy bastard Vince - what can you do? Meltzer needs to be taken to task for his anti-steroid geriatric shaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sheamus is a good worker, pretty great at TV format matches in particular, but he only really interested me as a monster heel retiring dudes with the crucifix powerbomb on the floor. And obviously we've seen him and Bryan a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strand Peanut Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Bryan on commentary, and participation in an angle on the show might be a better use of him at this point. At this point tho, I think it's too late to salvage anything for WM. They missed the opportunity to use Bryan's heat constructively all year. What's left of it is being cooled down purposefully. It's business as usual again. The two dozen or so friends who spent so much of the last two year rooting for Bryan have all moved on. Some to other wrestling, but most have returned to not caring or watching. Some we're even first time fans in their late 20's-early 30's. I had to remind the three or so who still keep tabs that Bryan was even wrestling last night. Kinda sad. These are the people who brought me back. It was their unpretentious excitement over him that compelled me to check in again. I don't think any booking of Bryan is going to bring them back at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 When Orton has been a face I've begged for him to be a heel. I never liked him either way but he was much more natural heel. Suddenly he became a solid babyface this last time that he turned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 They are really dragging this Orton stuff out. I'm sorry but I'm just so sick of this Authority stuff. We are going on 2 years of this. Now we are back to where we started with them recruiting Orton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Stephanie's been solid getting heel idiocy over tonight. She really is good at delivering the lines most of the time. Laughed at Hunter silently crossing his arms through two segments in the first 40 mins. He's been watching noir and realizing the best kingpins talk less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Notice how Stephanie scolded Rollins for interrupting her but did nothing of the sorts to Kane when he did the same thing. Have to keep Kane and Show strong at all costs. These guys are untouchables I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I turn on Raw tonight so I can do my annual tradition of paying attention for a month or so leading up to Wrestlemania, and who are the first two guys to show up on my TV screen? Randy Orton and Triple-H. Click. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm OK with Bryan endorsing Roman if it leads to Bryan turning heel at some point and bringing back the Obi-Wan robe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 The only thing I've really liked about this show has been sulking HHH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Bryan made his promo work, and I liked Heyman's too. Bookended the idea that Reigns beat Bryan and won't beat Lesnar: wins and losses mattering. But they're laying it on thick with Roman. The less he's talked, the better's been - though I don't know if I want everyone else then doing his talking for him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Were those "CO-DY, CO-DY" chants being piped into the arena? That sounded awful. Dreadful match with Swagger too, capped by one of my least favorite tropes in Modern WWE: the entrance music distraction finish. This is getting shunted into the pre-show, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Wasn't Brock supposed to be on this show? What a waste if an appearance just showing up in the overrun unadvertised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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