Log Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 It is so dumb to do that "WHEN WILL CENA SHOW UP" shit when everyone knows guys are at the arena hours before the show, and Cena is the company golden boy/model employee. Everyone knows wrestling is fake too, so by that logic why even watch? It's a television show man, the story was Cena was not at the arena yet. You have to just accept what the yare presenting and judge on the merit, not the thought process that he's already backstage. Again, by that logic, why should we care about two guys fighting who ten minutes after a match are joking around and playing PS4... But there was no explanation as to why Cena was late. He just randomly wasn't there. It's not like Orton did something nefarious to keep him from getting there. He just wasn't there. It made no sense by any logic. Add to that the heat-less brawling to end the show and it was a bum segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 The only thing that was an indication at all was the mention that he had stayed with his dad at the hospital or what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'm more annoyed that it was a repeat angle of something they'd done before, and that since that time, Cena and Orton teamed a few times in throwaway matches on RAW. It's nothing new, but I really do wish they kept track of that stuff over the long term. Randy Orton once attacked John Cena's father. Why would Cena ever team with him like everything was okay? This isn't even limited to current WWE. I think wrestling in general has always done a bad job with stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'm more annoyed that it was a repeat angle of something they'd done before, and that since that time, Cena and Orton teamed a few times in throwaway matches on RAW. It's nothing new, but I really do wish they kept track of that stuff over the long term. Randy Orton once attacked John Cena's father. Why would Cena ever team with him like everything was okay? This isn't even limited to current WWE. I think wrestling in general has always done a bad job with stuff like this. I feel like Memphis always did a pretty good job with it, especially later on into the 80s/early 90s. It was never as easy as "You're a babyface now. I'm going to trust you." They'd often bring up old grudges and how guys were teaming reluctantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 It is so dumb to do that "WHEN WILL CENA SHOW UP" shit when everyone knows guys are at the arena hours before the show, and Cena is the company golden boy/model employee. Everyone knows wrestling is fake too, so by that logic why even watch? It's a television show man, the story was Cena was not at the arena yet. You have to just accept what the yare presenting and judge on the merit, not the thought process that he's already backstage. Again, by that logic, why should we care about two guys fighting who ten minutes after a match are joking around and playing PS4... But there was no explanation as to why Cena was late. He just randomly wasn't there. It's not like Orton did something nefarious to keep him from getting there. He just wasn't there. It made no sense by any logic. It made as much sense as him being there on time. Again, you have to except what they present you and not be all like, "But Cena always shows up early". Are you saying Orton can slap around Cena's Dad and the two happily co-exist backstage without Cena trying to tear down walls to get to him? Would make pretty shitty television right, something happening two hours before a show stared in catering off camera... Or you can take the stance that Cena is so angry, he's sitting by a pond feeding ducks contemplating how he is going to get to Orton and what he'll do when he does it. It really doesn't matter. But to rule it off by saying: everyone knows guys are at the arena hours before the show, and Cena is the company golden boy/model employee Is pretty absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Faulconer Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think I'm finally becoming bored with WWE TV wrestling. I wondered when it would happen in a post a few weeks ago and I'm sadly surprised that it happened this quickly. The shows are loaded with wrestling and I would never hold that against them but...with a roster as big as it is they should be able to do more match-up wise than a ten man on Smackdown. I'm not giving up on the shows but last night was the first time in a while that I turned off the show before the usual and reliably enjoyable main event. Now that they have all these tag teams they should try and remember how to book tag teams. There are no singles matchups between feuding teams to split matches before they meet on PPV. There aren't any angles between the teams really either. It seems like every non-title match goes to the challenger. I know it is accepted WWE 101 at this point though. It feels like every finish to every match is revealed during the ring introductions and the first sentence or two that Michael Cole calls. Antonio Cesaro had a nice(ish) long US title run. Every match he had on TV was non-title though and he seemed to lose every single time for what seemed like weeks on end. I know I know - I'm like a year late to comment on that one but it was just the most glaring example of lazy booking that came to mind. I do find myself really enjoying the simplicity of WWE booking lately (with a few obvious exceptions). The shows are just crammed with matches with most of them being good or better. These are all good things. I guess I'm just waiting for the next shoe to drop in the storylines and we get past Royal Rumble this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Antonio Cesaro had a nice(ish) long US title run. Every match he had on TV was non-title though and he seemed to lose every single time for what seemed like weeks on end. I know I know - I'm like a year late to comment on that one but it was just the most glaring example of lazy booking that came to mind.Dean Ambrose has held the US title for eight months. He has had eleven defenses of the belt, and only three pinfall victories. The last match for it was three months ago. It's absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Sleeze Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I thought it was a pretty boring go home show from RAW. I am not a big Batista fan. I will say for the second consecutive RAW Roman Reigns made me and my brother mark the fuck out. We were going batshit for the Superman Punch to Cody in midair. Holy Shit! Push this man to the moon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Can someone explain to me what are they going to do with the Elimination Chamber match? Brock/Heyman have said over and over again they were getting the winner of Orton/Cena in a championship match. But he can't get a 1 on 1 match because then there would be no point for the Chamber... Are they really gonna book Brock in an EC with a bunch of other people? He's gonna injure at least a couple of top guys Does Taker makes a comeback tonight or in the coming weeks to delay Brock's quest till after Wrestlemania? Do we finally get a War Games type of match with a 6 man tag team inside the Chamber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Can someone explain to me what are they going to do with the Elimination Chamber match? Brock/Heyman have said over and over again they were getting the winner of Orton/Cena in a championship match. But he can't get a 1 on 1 match because then there would be no point for the Chamber... Are they really gonna book Brock in an EC with a bunch of other people? He's gonna injure at least a couple of top guys Does Taker makes a comeback tonight or in the coming weeks to delay Brock's quest till after Wrestlemania? Do we finally get a War Games type of match with a 6 man tag team inside the Chamber? I think you do Elimination Chamber with Orton, Brock, Cena, Bryan, Sheamus and Punk and go from there. Taker can cost Brock. Triple H makes Punk go in first. Then you can decide what to do from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Is there any reason to believe Bryan's quarter hours would do better if he got a bigger push? I don't see why it would make much of a difference, considering the fact that's not a midcarder who doesn't appear every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 say hello to Shield/Wyatts at EC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 say hello to Shield/Wyatts at EC?That's a really good match on paper and it's good they're at least keeping the Shield together a bit longer, but Reigns seems to be getting more and more over, so I'm not sure they'll be together come WM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Yeah, on one hand I'm happy as fuck we are actually going to see a Wyatts/Shield program. On the other, it's too bad it's only gonna last a couple of weeks and 1 PPV match. Shield is probably losing and splitting up after Elimination Chamber, and that frees up Bray to go after Cena at Wrestlemania...but shit, at least it's something. I know it's never going to happen but if they put that match inside the Chamber I might piss myself. Oh, and even though it's like 2 more RAWs away. I have a feeling that this EC build will be way more interesting and better than the Mania one. Once Sheamus turns on Bryan at the Chamber it's gonna be hell broking loose once again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 say hello to Shield/Wyatts at EC? This is a match tailor made for Wrestlemania. Cena/Wyatt as a WM match is so perplexing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I wonder if they go Reigns v. Ambrose and Rollins at Mania, or Reigns v. Ambrose? They won't do it, but if Bryan were to win EC and wrestle Sheamus is an obviously "down the card" Mania title match I wonder what the general reaction would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 upon further reflection, I realized they could put Bray and someone from the Shield in the EC and put Wyatts/Shield as a tag match. Maybe fire up that endless dissension by having someone other than Reigns in the Chamber match, or having Reigns factor into the tag match finish and then just kick him out the next night Also, the Chamber, in theory, could set up a few WM matches. In theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 If they break the Shield up before WM, I hope they go with Reigns vs. Ambrose for the US title instead of doing a handicap match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I wonder if they go Reigns v. Ambrose and Rollins at Mania, or Reigns v. Ambrose? They won't do it, but if Bryan were to win EC and wrestle Sheamus is an obviously "down the card" Mania title match I wonder what the general reaction would be If Bryan wins the crowd would be happy enough to not do much trolling (unless Orton vs Batista was following them) or highjacking but leading up to the match there would still be A LOT of complaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I actually think if they are breaking up the Shield, they go the lazy route and go Reigns vs. Ambrose vs. Rollins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 or Manu can return to join The New Shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 If they break the Shield up before WM, I hope they go with Reigns vs. Ambrose for the US title instead of doing a handicap match. My guess is they do a Three Threat Elimination match with Reigns eliminating Ambrose and Rollins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 we are all going to be pissed again when Bryan doesn''t win the title at EC. I'm not sure how much more of this I can take. If he doesn't win it at Extreme Rules I might finally tap out. (and that takes a whole lot of shit for me to stop watching) That said that was a pretty decent RAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Christian is coming back! Curious where he fits into things. Hopefully he can get a Mania spot, I feel like he's missed the past three or four due to always being injured in the spring. Is Evan Bourne due back yet? They showed an Evan Bourne shooting star press in one of those network commercials, I found that odd since he's been off tv since January 2012. I read a while back that he did a couple NXT matches, but havent heard anything in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I wonder if they go Reigns v. Ambrose and Rollins at Mania, or Reigns v. Ambrose? I heard a suggestion somewhere that Rollins wins the IC Title and at Mania they do a 3-Way with the Shield to unify the US-IC Titles. I really like that idea a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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