Sean Liska Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 So Meltzer today said that them keeping Bryan out of the Rumble was an intentional attempt to get people angry at the idea that he's being held down, and that they're booking an angle based on all of this internet uproar. He also said it's not a coincidence that Extreme Rules is in Seattle, which was originally scheduled to be elsewhere. Interesting times we're living in is all I'm saying.
sek69 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 So I wonder is the Mania card we're reading about part of the work or the real card? If it's the real card, what's the point of running the angle if he's going to be on the 4th or 5th match? This is starting to smell like WWE trying to retcon trying to punish the fans by pretending it was part of the story all along. But hey, if it ends up getting the guy where the fans want, if they want to say it was the plan all along then whatever it takes I guess.
Jimmy Redman Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 So Meltzer today said that them keeping Bryan out of the Rumble was an intentional attempt to get people angry at the idea that he's being held down, and that they're booking an angle based on all of this internet uproar. He also said it's not a coincidence that Extreme Rules is in Seattle, which was originally scheduled to be elsewhere. Interesting times we're living in is all I'm saying. That is a world-record level backflip from "Bryan just doesn't move the needle so forget it guys" Dave less than 24 hours ago.
Edwin Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 HHH and Steph coming out to open RAW and mentioning the fans were angry because they didn't get what they wanted and DBryan coming out to confront them for it pretty much hinted it's been a work or at least that's what it looked like. I wouldn't be surprised if DBryan is somehow screwed out of the title at the EC and he receives multiple title shots and is screwed out of all of them until he eventually wins the title similarly to the Homicide ROH World Title angle where he was constantly screwed out of the title until he eventually won it. Except Homicide stayed loyal to ROH and DBryan stays loyal to the fans.
Strummer Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 Again if he doesn't get the title at Extreme Rules there is no hope. At that point it will be 9 freaking months of this stuff So I wonder is the Mania card we're reading about part of the work or the real card? If it's the real card, what's the point of running the angle if he's going to be on the 4th or 5th match? He's not getting a title shot at Mania. He will work underneath against Sheamus. This is all building to Extreme Rules clearly
El-P Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 Wait, so now angles refer to the booking itself ? This is totally Vince Russo-like.
Strummer Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I'm going to go on a tangent about Stephanie here. She's a McMahon yes, and again I may be naive, but she seems to have a heart and dare I say might be a slight sympathetic figure. I mean on Twitter she makes sure to say she's just playing a character and is constantly giving RTs to fans and basically acts like your basic lovey dovey mom who wants to attack every child with affection. Obviously this is a big part PR with her new gig and the WWE moms stuff. But I was reminded of something Loss said years ago during the congressional hearings that she is starved for attention and clearly loves being in the limelight. Dave hinted during her first run that she loved the attention she got and that's why she was on TV so much (that plus Vince loving her character). Plus something tells me she has some self esteem hang ups from hanging around all these hot women all these years. I don't know I don't think she is as bad as people think. I'm probably way off but I think there might be something to this and maybe this has a lot to do with her not "showing ass" to the faces during this run. Talking down to them, etc. She's obviously wrong there though
Matt D Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I think we could have a megathread archive just trying to analyze Steph's mind.
goc Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I don't really watch that much WWE outside of the PPVs and the TV stuff that gets heavily pimped. But I always find myself enjoying The Real Americans whenever I see them. I really liked their match with Rey & Sin Cara last night and would love to see a good 10 minute Rey/Cesaro match. I feel like Swagger has gotten a lot better since being paired with Dutch & Cesaro too. I think the problem with Swagger for a long time was that he was never a fan and it was just a job to him but it seems like he's having fun with the Real Americans stuff. As far as authority figures go, I wish we had a lot more Brad Maddox and a lot less Steph/HHH. The couple of weeks before SummerSlam where he was the GM in over his head before The Authority really took over was actually an interesting take on the authority figure angle for once.
Grimmas Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 At this point you might as well change the card. You can't have a title match at Mania without Bryan or the crowd will completely shit on it. Might as well give him the title at EC and defend it against Batista at Mania. What does that leave? WWE Title: Bryan vs. Batista Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt CM Punk vs. Triple H so, Sheamus and Orton lose their opponents, but that is ok.
kjh Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 Problem is if you book Bryan in the World title match at WrestleMania he has to win or the crowd will completely shit on it too. And I can't see WWE booking that finish. I think shoehorning Bryan into a Triple Threat match with Batista and Randy Orton is the most likely change they'll make.
Grimmas Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 Problem is if you book Bryan in the World title match at WrestleMania he has to win or the crowd will completely shit on it too. And I can't see WWE booking that finish. I think shoehorning Bryan into a Triple Threat match with Batista and Randy Orton is the most likely change they'll make. The problem with that is any match that has to follow Bryan not winning the title is not going to have good reactions. If you thought the Rumble was bad, WrestleMania is the most hardcore of WWE fans.
Dylan Waco Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 They aren't going to shit on a Taker match at Mania. Probably not a Punk match either, though Punk v. HHH would likely be an exception to that
KrisZ Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 They could have Sheamus turn on Bryan in the Chamber costing him his chance then make the singles match for Mania where Bryan can get his heat back from 2 years ago then win the title at Extreme Rules.
Dylan Waco Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I'm sure that was the original plan, but it feels like a lower rung match, would likely get very little time, and I'm not sure how they can do it without the title match on the show getting Goldberg/Lesnar-ed times ten thousand
goc Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I want them to do Lesnar/Batista at Elimination Chamber with the winner gets the Mania match. Lesnar wins, Daniel Bryan wins Elimination Chamber and then we get Lesnar/Bryan for the title. Not going to happen but it'd be the best way to get out of the crowd turning on the title match. Then I think they should do Bray Wyatt vs Taker and Cena vs Orton vs Batista.
KrisZ Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 Oh I think the title match will not be the main event...they will be total masochists if they do that
Cobra Commander Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 so they won't book things like this, right? EC: Orton v. Cena v. Sheamus v. Bryan v. Reigns v. Bray - Bray over Cena, Bray eliminated, Bryan over Orton, Bryan over Reigns, Sheamus over Bryan controversially (heck, have the ref stop the match immediately after the Brogue Kick because he's been ordered to "protect" Bryan from a "possible concussion") followed by booking Bryan v. Sheamus / Bryan v. Bautista on the same night in New Orleans
Timbo Slice Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 That report seems like bullshit. There's no way at all that WWE would have planned to garner that reaction. That's them covering their ass.
Robert S Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 Oh I think the title match will not be the main event...they will be total masochists if they do thatSo Taker vs. Lesnar (if that's where they are going) going last?
goc Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I still don't think they should do Lesnar vs Taker. Just for Taker's sake. Brock is a very scary man and Taker looks like he's barely able to maintain one match a year against guys like HHH and Shawn Michaels.
Dylan Waco Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I recently had someone tell me that there were people inside WWE who were afraid of booking Lesnar v. Taker because they were afraid Lesnar would shoot on Taker, creating a "shoot" end to the streak, and then go back to UFC. I think that is completely insane, but it's the sort of insane thing I could see old time workers believing.
Loss Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 There were concerns internally about doing that match that I guess were addressed, but a follow-up report would have been nice. They were more related to Brock not being willing to practice the match in advance with Undertaker, though, as has happened for most of his matches for the last few years. And which I personally hate because it's "performing" when wrestling is supposed to be "working", but that's a different topic.
MikeCampbell Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I think Bryan winning at EC works and defending against Batista. Bryan wins, going over Orton clean for the finish. Batista, who at this point is still the babyface, shakes his hand, raises his arm and then turns on him, because he's the handpicked "face of the WWE" for the authority after Orton failed to cut the mustard.
sek69 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 I recently had someone tell me that there were people inside WWE who were afraid of booking Lesnar v. Taker because they were afraid Lesnar would shoot on Taker, creating a "shoot" end to the streak, and then go back to UFC. I think that is completely insane, but it's the sort of insane thing I could see old time workers believing. My concern would be more towards Brock's tendencies to stiff the shit out of people and Taker being too old for that shit at this point in the game.
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