Matt D Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Ken Patara for WON HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I was always taught you should never start a sentence with "however." However, years later I was told that rule was nonsense. i think my number 1 grammar peeve is people not knowing when to introduce a however clause with a semi-colon rather than a comma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 When would you ever do that? I can't think of any scenarios in which the semi-colon would be appropriate. If it's a sub-clause it's going to be a comma. If you're moving onto a different point it would be a new sentence. So when are you using the semi-colon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 it is an understandable and i suppose little-known error; however, it annoys me nonetheless! though the exclusive use of commas would be employed by many in the preceding sentence, it would would still seem, however, rather awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Is your grammar gimmick a refusal to use upper case letters? I'd argue that "however" could be cut from that sentence. "It is an understandable and I suppose little-known error; nonetheless, it annoys me!" I can see the example though. This is quite a niche thing to get annoyed about tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I was always taught you should never start a sentence with "however." However, years later I was told that rule was nonsense. i think my number 1 grammar peeve is people not knowing when to introduce a however clause with a semi-colon rather than a comma. My #1 pet peeve is people not using the shift key. Flik is #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 It's not really a niche thing. "However" is an adverb, and you can't link two clauses with an adverb. Instead of "She's gorgeous, however her breath smells awful," you're supposed to say, "She was gorgeous; however, her breath smelled awful." You could have two sentences there, too. "Then" is also like that, although it's easier to just add "and" ("I got home and then made dinner" instead of "I got home, then made dinner"). That one throws me for a loop a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I see. So it's the abuse of "however" when used as a conjunction that upsets you and tim. I can see a whole stable forming now. tigerpride is the Flair of the grammatarians. tim and Gregor are the Arn and Tully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 It doesn't upset me at all. I was simply trying to explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 This is the most absurd thread on a pro-wrestling board. Ever. And that says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Grammar is a way for people who suck at math to sound smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 This is the most absurd thread on a pro-wrestling board. Ever. And that says a lot. There have been more absurd. Don't make people go looking for Resident Evil threads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Which reminds me, Resident Evil always spelled magic with a j for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Grammar is a way for people who suck at math to sound smart.I am not terrible at math and poor grammar still annoys me. Not to the point where I will point it out on a message board, more of a quiet seethe to myself, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chess Knight Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I used to know a guy who wrote "ric fleir" because he didn't like Flair and thought 'Flair' didn't deserve proper spelling or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Grammar is a way for people who suck at math to sound smart.I am not terrible at math and poor grammar still annoys me. Not to the point where I will point it out on a message board, more of a quiet seethe to myself, but still. You're probably not great at math. People need to accept most grammar is busy work horse shit. For starters, Their, There and They're, one of you has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooley Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I honestly can't tell if Vic is serious anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 This is the most absurd thread on a pro-wrestling board. Ever. And that says a lot. There have been more absurd. Don't make people go looking for Resident Evil threads... Well, I said absurd, not stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 im great at math and grammar for real though as is probably somewhat obvious i dont really care too much about grammar per say, just that if people dont spell homopohones correctly they look dumb. not that they are dumb mind, they just LOOK dumb. so people should make some effort to get that shit right. plus to be completely honest, i only really support the rules of grammar and spelling because they let me look better than others in things like academic papers, formal e-mails, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 How did it come about that Americans say "math" but the British say "maths"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 How did it come about that Americans say "math" but the British say "maths"? Aristocratical inbreeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I wasn't harassing him on IM, I simply asked him why he spelled it whear and thear. He sent back a curt response, so I sent him another message, just saying I really want to know why he does it. So seriously, why does he spell it whear and thear? Is there some joke that people are not in on? I don't know FLIK but I am going to take a guess: He is upset that Obama got re-elected and is part of the crowd that wants to secede from the union. FLIK has been put in charge of establishing the language for this new Obama-less nation and that's how he wants where and there spelled. Just playing percentages, I can say with 93% certainty that FLIK would support Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted November 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Closing this out just by saying now that everyone has gotten it out of their systems, please just drop the issue. He doesn't care enough to respond, and I don't want it to take threads off course. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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