victory Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 The fourth part of Warrior week tonight is going to be a Legends Roundtable with DiBiase and Slaughter as two of the guests that was taped yesterday. It should be interesting to hear their comments to see how honest they will be. That bio one last night was pretty touching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Very, very interesting in that Ted's comments on the Self-Destruction DVD were the ones that stuck out to me. I can't remember verbatim, but he definitely seemed to have the knives out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 There's something unsettling about WWE building his reputation, destroying his reputation and rebuilding his reputation, only to profit from every single one of those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 That's pretty much their ideal, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Of course it is. I think everyone should more aggressively point it out and criticize/shame them for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 The fourth part of Warrior week tonight is going to be a Legends Roundtable with DiBiase and Slaughter as two of the guests that was taped yesterday. It should be interesting to hear their comments to see how honest they will be. That bio one last night was pretty touching. This is going to be very interesting, because Warrior was one guy Ted consistently buried on shoots, on WWE-releases and so on. I don't actually EXPECT him to about-face too much because he's said so much and he's smart enough to know that it will be hypocritical. I think the only way to play it for him will be to be respectful of the guy's death but to stick to his guns on the other things he's always said. I'm kinda surprised that A. They asked Ted to do that one and B. that he agreed to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Yeah, it's easy to become numb to their intrinsic wickedness and forget to comment on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Is there anyone else? Two people really don't make for a roundtable discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsault Marvin Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 I guess DiBiase can tell his regular false story about the Japan match. He always claims he didn't get any offense in the match, but the crowd makes funny noises thing started in his section of offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victory Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Is there anyone else? Two people really don't make for a roundtable discussion.I'm sure they will have two others, the article just didn't mention them. Josh Matthews will have the Mean Gene spot supposedly. Edit - I take that back. Booker T. Is also on the panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Dibiase to his credit has always stuck to his opinions over the years. You never hear Ted go about face on a subject. That said, he is a respectful guy. He isn't going to go out there and start bashing the Warrior in death. This is one of those things where the importance of wrestling is put into perspective: it pales to comparison of life. In time, I'm sure when mentioned he will speak about the nature of his ring work and views of his conduct again, but this will be the wrong time and place, Dibiase is too smart to come across as an asshole and I don't believe he is one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 That's kinda why I'm surprised that Ted of all people is going to be on the panel. It puts him in an awkward spot. The ONLY thing I can think of is if this is part of a wider WWE move to "bury the hatchet" so to speak, with Ted a kind of representative for the controversy Warrior caused and at the same time an emblem of how they've now put all that behind them and accepted him as part of their history. Given that Warrior took a "parting shot" at Ted during the Hall of Fame speech, and Ted's very recent comments about Warrior being undeserving of a HoF spot (see here: http://sportzwiki.com/wwe/ted-dibiase-thinks-ultimate-warrior-is-not-worthy-of-being-in-the-hall-of-fame), this is the perfect time for WWE to try to show themselves "rising above" all that. All that said, given how public and well-known this feud has been for years now, I still think it puts Ted himself in a weird situation. I mean what's he actually going to be able to say beyond speaking in general platitudes? Seems like a strange booking all round to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Of course it is. I think everyone should more aggressively point it out and criticize/shame them for it. Not during WM season they won't. Because the massive jerk-off ceremony that is the HoF makes everyone put on their rose-colored glasses on. And really, when you think Savage got zilch after all he meant to the company and the pro-wrestling business as a whole. Well. Context is everything like I said before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilclown Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 How long will we have to live with this new bullshit narrative? The guy failed on top, was generally awful in ring and fairly reprehensible. Count me out on the rewrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 On WWE television, not for long probably. For fairly obvious reasons they don't dwell on dead guys for too long anymore. I don't see those halcyon days of hating him coming back though. They'll put out DVD's and specials on the Network and that'll be it really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 How long will we have to live with this new bullshit narrative? The guy failed on top, was generally awful in ring and fairly reprehensible. Count me out on the rewrite. You're missing the point. NOBODY is trying to say he was a great in ring wrestler or super duper top draw. They are saying he was a larger than life personality who entertained a generation at a special time in wrestling, which isn't a rewrite, it's accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 How long will we have to live with this new bullshit narrative? The guy failed on top, was generally awful in ring and fairly reprehensible. Count me out on the rewrite. You're missing the point. NOBODY is trying to say he was a great in ring wrestler or super duper top draw. They are saying he was a larger than life personality who entertained a generation at a special time in wrestling, which isn't a rewrite, it's accurate. To be fair also, for those who don't care about the business on the level we do, Ultimate Warrior was one of the biggest well known characters in wrestling history. Do NOT discount that in terms of the mass public and mass media reaction to his passing, and therefore the WWE's way of paying tribute to him. Not to jumpstart the Hogan/Taker pop culture icon debate again, but Warrior was up there in terms of being known in mainstream mass audiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Not to jumpstart the Hogan/Taker pop culture icon debate again Go for it, that was a great debate created by a great man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 ...Ted's very recent comments about Warrior being undeserving of a HoF spot (see here: http://sportzwiki.com/wwe/ted-dibiase-thinks-ultimate-warrior-is-not-worthy-of-being-in-the-hall-of-fame) Ted really doesn't flat-out say in that the article (even though that's the headline). He just thought that Warrior wouldn't show any gratitude, which is what he wound up doing. I thought that too going in, but am glad I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 I didn't buy this only because I'm more of a Weekly World News guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 That's so funny. Mickey's "tell all diary" was his racy and filthy and awesome auto biography he wrote back in 1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 \Not to jumpstart the Hogan/Taker pop culture icon debate again, but Warrior was up there in terms of being known in mainstream mass audiences. I wrote about this on another (much lamer) board, but Warrior was definitely the "quintessential" wrestler of the late 80s/early 90s, especially to kids. On mainstream, network shows like "Married...With Children" or "Tiny Toons" or "Family Matters," whenever there was a "wrestler" character, they typically were massive muscular dudes who acted like maniacs and wore tassles and face paint. Granted, the Road Warriors had this same look, but my point is, the Warrior was an archetype of what a professional wrestler looked like and acted like - way more than Hogan, Piper, Flair, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 I just had a funny thought of someone at an indie show doing a "Zombie Warrior" gimmick and instead of running to the ring he comes at a regular walking pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 The autopsy revealed Warrior was a secret Lesbian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think it's neat that Queen Elizabeth gave Kate the rub before leaving the territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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