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The fourth part of Warrior week tonight is going to be a Legends Roundtable with DiBiase and Slaughter as two of the guests that was taped yesterday. It should be interesting to hear their comments to see how honest they will be.

 

That bio one last night was pretty touching.

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The fourth part of Warrior week tonight is going to be a Legends Roundtable with DiBiase and Slaughter as two of the guests that was taped yesterday. It should be interesting to hear their comments to see how honest they will be.

 

That bio one last night was pretty touching.

This is going to be very interesting, because Warrior was one guy Ted consistently buried on shoots, on WWE-releases and so on. I don't actually EXPECT him to about-face too much because he's said so much and he's smart enough to know that it will be hypocritical. I think the only way to play it for him will be to be respectful of the guy's death but to stick to his guns on the other things he's always said.

 

I'm kinda surprised that A. They asked Ted to do that one and B. that he agreed to do it.

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Is there anyone else? Two people really don't make for a roundtable discussion.

I'm sure they will have two others, the article just didn't mention them. Josh Matthews will have the Mean Gene spot supposedly.

 

Edit - I take that back. Booker T. Is also on the panel.

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Dibiase to his credit has always stuck to his opinions over the years. You never hear Ted go about face on a subject. That said, he is a respectful guy. He isn't going to go out there and start bashing the Warrior in death. This is one of those things where the importance of wrestling is put into perspective: it pales to comparison of life. In time, I'm sure when mentioned he will speak about the nature of his ring work and views of his conduct again, but this will be the wrong time and place, Dibiase is too smart to come across as an asshole and I don't believe he is one.

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That's kinda why I'm surprised that Ted of all people is going to be on the panel. It puts him in an awkward spot.

 

The ONLY thing I can think of is if this is part of a wider WWE move to "bury the hatchet" so to speak, with Ted a kind of representative for the controversy Warrior caused and at the same time an emblem of how they've now put all that behind them and accepted him as part of their history.

 

Given that Warrior took a "parting shot" at Ted during the Hall of Fame speech, and Ted's very recent comments about Warrior being undeserving of a HoF spot (see here: http://sportzwiki.com/wwe/ted-dibiase-thinks-ultimate-warrior-is-not-worthy-of-being-in-the-hall-of-fame), this is the perfect time for WWE to try to show themselves "rising above" all that.

 

All that said, given how public and well-known this feud has been for years now, I still think it puts Ted himself in a weird situation. I mean what's he actually going to be able to say beyond speaking in general platitudes? Seems like a strange booking all round to me.

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Of course it is. I think everyone should more aggressively point it out and criticize/shame them for it.

 

Not during WM season they won't. Because the massive jerk-off ceremony that is the HoF makes everyone put on their rose-colored glasses on.

 

And really, when you think Savage got zilch after all he meant to the company and the pro-wrestling business as a whole. Well. Context is everything like I said before.

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How long will we have to live with this new bullshit narrative? The guy failed on top, was generally awful in ring and fairly reprehensible. Count me out on the rewrite.

 

You're missing the point. NOBODY is trying to say he was a great in ring wrestler or super duper top draw. They are saying he was a larger than life personality who entertained a generation at a special time in wrestling, which isn't a rewrite, it's accurate.

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How long will we have to live with this new bullshit narrative? The guy failed on top, was generally awful in ring and fairly reprehensible. Count me out on the rewrite.

You're missing the point. NOBODY is trying to say he was a great in ring wrestler or super duper top draw. They are saying he was a larger than life personality who entertained a generation at a special time in wrestling, which isn't a rewrite, it's accurate.

To be fair also, for those who don't care about the business on the level we do, Ultimate Warrior was one of the biggest well known characters in wrestling history.

 

Do NOT discount that in terms of the mass public and mass media reaction to his passing, and therefore the WWE's way of paying tribute to him.

 

Not to jumpstart the Hogan/Taker pop culture icon debate again, but Warrior was up there in terms of being known in mainstream mass audiences.

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...Ted's very recent comments about Warrior being undeserving of a HoF spot (see here: http://sportzwiki.com/wwe/ted-dibiase-thinks-ultimate-warrior-is-not-worthy-of-being-in-the-hall-of-fame)

 

Ted really doesn't flat-out say in that the article (even though that's the headline). He just thought that Warrior wouldn't show any gratitude, which is what he wound up doing. I thought that too going in, but am glad I was wrong.

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Not to jumpstart the Hogan/Taker pop culture icon debate again, but Warrior was up there in terms of being known in mainstream mass audiences.

 

I wrote about this on another (much lamer) board, but Warrior was definitely the "quintessential" wrestler of the late 80s/early 90s, especially to kids. On mainstream, network shows like "Married...With Children" or "Tiny Toons" or "Family Matters," whenever there was a "wrestler" character, they typically were massive muscular dudes who acted like maniacs and wore tassles and face paint. Granted, the Road Warriors had this same look, but my point is, the Warrior was an archetype of what a professional wrestler looked like and acted like - way more than Hogan, Piper, Flair, etc.

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