JaymeFuture Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 So for this weeks podcast, we're going to broach the subject of the best Pay-Per-View of all time, with the caveat of eliminating WrestleManias from the discussion, which should make for some interesting choices. No limit to promotion or timeframe, so long as it was on PPV - in your opinion, what do you feel is the best Non-Mania PPV of all time, and more importantly, why? As always I'll be reading the feedback on the show and discussing your choices, but it'll be fun to see what gets people's picks and for what reasons, and see what debate flares up when judging one great show against another... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I know it's non-USA, but I always had a soft spot for CMLL's Homenaje a dos Leyendas 2000 - Juicio Final. An all time classic in Atlantis versus Villano III, a great cibernetico match, and fun matches throughout the rest of the card. I'm not sure what I'd vote for from WWE's library, but I'm sure a lot will vote for NWA Great American Bash '89, and it deserves all those votes. One that I think is often overlooked is One Night Only from 1997, which had only a couple of mediocre matches, a good tag match, three MOTYC in Love/HHH, Taker/Hart, and Vader/Owen, as well as an HBK/Bulldog match that I think is okay but a lot of others love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 SummerSlam 2000. There are few cards that actually make me give a shit about its undercard. Summerslam 2000 is one of those cards. Going into it I was looking forward to the 4 big matches. But everyting delivered and was entertaining. I was never a big fan of Terri and/or The Kat so I didn't mind their 5 minute tom-foolery in the 'stink face' match. I re-rewatched this PPV on The Network this year so this isn't my teenage self talking. No rose-coloured glasses and such. So what so good about it? Including but not limited to: Shane McMahon taking a 50 foot fall inorder to make Blackman look like a million bucks. E&C/Hardys/and The Duds totally upstaging their WM 2000 ladder match and having their best TLC match to date (yes! Even better then WM17). The nightly build to and conclusion of one of the best angles in WWE of all time (HHH/Angle/Steph love triangle). The Main event of Rock/Angle/HHH. Tazz being a COMPLETE dick and getting what was coming to him via a candy jar that had some nice foreshadowing ealrier in the broadcast. And of course Jericho/Benoit being Jericho/Benoit. SummerSlam 2000, Backlash 2000, and SummerSlam 2002 are three WWE PPV's I purchased with my own money and I didn't feel disappointed in the less. WWE hasn't always hit a home run and there have been PPVs where I felt WWE owed me money...but on those three nights, the WWE was at its best and proved why its the most sucessful wrestling promotion of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Summerslam 2002 was pretty solid front to back. Angle vs Mysterio, Benoit taking RVD to his best match in WWE, Brock/Rock, Edge/Eddie, HBK/HHH is you like that sort of thing. I loved No Way Out 2001 at the time, the HHH/Austin epic that again people are split on, Angle/Rock which was probably the best Angle match to that point, Trish/Steph having a far better match than they had any right to, then a load of fun stuff on the undercard like the 4-Way for the IC strap. Loved Money In The Bank 2011, that was the event that got me interested again for a bit, no idea how it holds up though as I've not watched it since. The first ECW One Night Stand felt special at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Spring Stampede '94. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Poor Bastard Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Spring Stampede '94. I was going to post this one as well. I also have to give a nod to last year's summerslam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Bash '89? Sentimental pick here is Barely Legal, as on that night it felt like the coolest show I'd seen and the ultimate reward for being an ECW fan. But it is no longer that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 First one that came to my mind, as a mark, was ECW One Night Stand. Yes, it was mostly for nostalgia but it felt like ECW, despite being put on by WWE & it was fun. There's been some pretty good January 4th NJPW Tokyo Dome shows lately. I would have to revisit some of them before throwing one out there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lacelle Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I know it's not too loved around here but I absolutely love Great American Bash 92. It was just presented so seriously & like an actual sporting event, no bushit & featured my favourite match of all time. Vader with the most decisive victory for a rule breaker over a top fan favourite I had seen. I used to have a vast VHS collection of wrestling tapes & I used to work with this guy to whom I'd loan tapes & he flipped over GAB 92, loved Barry Windham & the officiating & the commentary & said it just made WWF seem so silly in comparison. I also dug Spring Stampede 94, Super Brawl 2 & 3 & Canadian Stampede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Another one for Great American Bash '89. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I've always been partial to SuperBrawl II. A strong Liger-Pillman match, an even better Austin/Zbyszko vs Windham/Rhodes tag, Rude/Steamboat and Eaton/Arn vs Steiners is quite the 4-match punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 WWE? Backlash and Summerslam 2000 were pretty awesome efforts. Summerslam 2002 was pretty good too, anything in 1997/1998 for storyline, not necessarily great matches, but a good time for WWF/E when they really making an effort to take the competition to WCW. I also liked the first two ECW One Night Stand events that WWE produced. It was a great, and rare example of WWE adapting itself to another kind of wrestling medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 ECW Heat Wave '98 is the best top to bottom ECW PPV, with nary a bad match (although I don't really like Sabu/RVD-Hayabusa/Shinzaki). Backlash 2000 and Judgment Day 2000 are pretty amazing shows, which great main events and strong undercards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Great American Bash 1989. SuperBrawl II, Spring Stampede 1994 and Money in the Bank 2011 are all close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 SummerSlam 2013 easily. Three great matches and the rest solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Another one for Great American Bash '89. Thirded. Always the first one I think of. The original ECW One Night Stand (WWE version) is another one I remember having nothing but fun watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 ECW One Night Stand was one of my first thoughts too. That show was an absolute blast. My pick has to be Royal Rumble '92. Still the greatest Rumble ever (IMO) and another very good undercard match between The New Foundation (shame they didn't last) and The Orient Express. I also really dug Survivor Series '92 - I don't remember it having one bad match - but I realize that may be (and probably is) childhood nostalgia talking. I admittedly haven't seen it since. I stand by RR '92 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Survivor Series has many bad matches. Royal Rumble 92 is a one match show. Backlash and Judgement Day 2000, No Way Out 2001, Vengeance 2003, Vengeance 2005, Money In The Bank 2011 are some of my picks for B shows. Canadian Stampede too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'd place a vote for Great American Bash '90: New Revolution. The Southern Boys vs. Midnight Express tag is one of my all-time favorite tag matches. The show ending finish/celebration is still a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victory Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 As mentioned Summerslam 2002 is a great show. Probably tops my list. Overall just a few filler matches. Beach Blast 92 is a fun show. Flamingo vs. Pillman, Sting vs. Cactus, Steamboat vs. Rude in a 30 minute iron man and the Steiners vs. MVC. Even a decent six man tag. This is a show that does have some junk, but the above more than make up for it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpchicago23 Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'll be the lone vote on this but I love Survivor Series 96. Bret/Austin is an all time great match. Taker/Mankind was solid, the tags were all pretty fun and had debuts of Furnas/Lafon, Funk, and Rock, and the main event delivered. Another great thing was the crowd being as hot as they were. The show really felt like the start of a new era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victory Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'll be the lone vote on this but I love Survivor Series 96. Bret/Austin is an all time great match. Taker/Mankind was solid, the tags were all pretty fun and had debuts of Furnas/Lafon, Funk, and Rock, and the main event delivered. Another great thing was the crowd being as hot as they were. The show really felt like the start of a new era Good call. I forgot how fun that show was. I think the crowd and overall atmosphere give that show a big time feel. Always liked that MSG setup as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topropepodcast Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'll throw a vote in for WrestleWar '92, at least in the conversation. (How insane is that four month stretch of major shows for WCW? SuperBrawl II-Beach Blast-WrestleWar, you could even throw those Clashes from that period in there...) Three four star matches of different styles top the card, with the best War Games as the main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Guitar Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 SuperBrawl III. Cactus/Orndorff, Benoit/Scorpio, Rock n'Rolls/Bodies & Vader/Sting are all good to great. Plus there's the return of Ric Flair, the debut of Davey Boy Smith and the end of the Erik Watts push as he is booed out of the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I just watched the '91 Rumble. Probably not a classic as far as work but the Rockers/Orient Express is one of the WWF's best opening matches ever. You've got the Virgil face turn, and the Rumble itself is decent. But more than that, the crowd is absolutely molten all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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