Strummer Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Meltz got leaked some bad info about the 3 way match didn't he? Is it this year's "punk will show up on Raw" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pol Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 You're probably right, but I think if their goal is to make Reigns a sympathetic figure they're going to struggle. He shouldn't be that kind of top guy. But that's always been how WWE has booked their top babyfaces, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeah, Rollins is cashing in. No doubt about it. Set up Seth/Roman for the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think switching gears would have been a mistake. Lesnar-Bryan still has appeal down the line, but I'd rather see them rebuild Bryan first. My bigger problem is that they don't have anyone at Bryan's level for him to face on the show, yet they had a program in reserve for the far less over Randy Orton, who has been on the shelf for months himself. The priorities of this company never cease to amaze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 If they are going with Brock vs Reigns as the actual main event of WM then they better resign Brock because this crowd is going to destroy this match if they know Reigns is pretty much guaranteed a win. Unless they finally pull the trigger on cashing in a MITB at WM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR Ackermann Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Reigns still came across as a heel and seems much better suited for that. It's just a way better fit for him at this point. Everything he does comes off as dickish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 if Bryan works Sheamus I don't even think its a guarantee he goes over. Bryan's detractors will argue that Sheamus needs the win more because he just came back and has (presumably) just turned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I can't say I'm excited for WrestleMania after tonight. So many guys are just drifting right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy hats Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Bryan should beat Shemaus based on the fact that he is 0-2 against him (they were last 2 in battle royal if I remember right) including an extremely embarrassing loss. But yeah Shemaus losing in his return is ready bad too. which is why Bryan vs Ziggler probably would have made more sense if they didn't make him look like a goof tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benbeeach Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Still, now, all these weeks and months later, wondering how the hell we didn't wind up with Danielson vs. Brock? Were we all imagining that being the best possible match up? How is this not happening?. . . anyway, that's going to be Roman's best singles match for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think switching gears would have been a mistake. Lesnar-Bryan still has appeal down the line, but I'd rather see them rebuild Bryan first. My bigger problem is that they don't have anyone at Bryan's level for him to face on the show, yet they had a program in reserve for the far less over Randy Orton, who has been on the shelf for months himself. The priorities of this company never cease to amaze. Randy will always have golden boy status. Bryan will never have that even if he has become something of a made man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sheamus hasn't even returned yet, jeez. Â Really looking forward for the Bryan/Reigns program later in the year, those two have great chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Heels are supposed to cheat so there's nothing wrong with that, however in the context of a company where heels don't really cheat how does that effect the audience reaction?  WWE heels cheat all the time. Excessively IMO. I liked the way that was done because Rusev doesn't need to cheat, it was an even match that he was winning on points, but he heard Lana on the apron and the ref going over, so he kicked Cena in the balls. why not? that's what heels do  I'm really not sure where you're coming from with "in the context of a company where heels don't really cheat" when EVERY heel in WWE cheats. I like it better when it's like Rusev tonight, or Mr. Perfect....where these guys are really good and can beat anyone on any given night (cept for Hogan in Perfect's case).....but they are heels because they don't care about breaking the rules when the going gets tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 It's easy to look good against Daniel Bryan. Â Which is why he's exactly the person you book your golden boy against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Last two matches were good. Â Definitely the best Bryan has looked since returning. I thought the match was structured well, with the power vs. speed/wrestling acumen storyline coming across naturally. Loved the flying arm bar (well, almost) from Bryan and the submission attempts. Both guys laid in their stuff hard down the stretch. Reigns looked good and only part of that was Bryan's doing. Very good match and probably the best they were going to have under the circumstances. With better booking leading into the match and a more engaged crowd, that same match could have been great. Â They should really run Rusev vs. Bryan at WM. Not only would it have the chance of being excellent, it would be one of the more over matches they could run at this point. Never going to happen since that would leave Cena out in the cold (and Cena should have a major match on the show), but still . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think switching gears would have been a mistake. Lesnar-Bryan still has appeal down the line, but I'd rather see them rebuild Bryan first. My bigger problem is that they don't have anyone at Bryan's level for him to face on the show, yet they had a program in reserve for the far less over Randy Orton, who has been on the shelf for months himself. The priorities of this company never cease to amaze. Â Switching gears would have been a mistake because then they would have lost control of ever Royal Rumble from now on. They need to have that thing in Iowa every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Â I think switching gears would have been a mistake. Lesnar-Bryan still has appeal down the line, but I'd rather see them rebuild Bryan first. My bigger problem is that they don't have anyone at Bryan's level for him to face on the show, yet they had a program in reserve for the far less over Randy Orton, who has been on the shelf for months himself. The priorities of this company never cease to amaze. Â Switching gears would have been a mistake because then they would have lost control of ever Royal Rumble from now on. They need to have that thing in Iowa every year. Â or you know...just...give people what they want maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Not once in the last thirteen years has it been about that. It's been about making one person happy, period. He won the war. Two wars. Until he dies that'll be his spoils. On the other hand, it's hard to fault a big corporation to want to present a product that it's most comfortable with. That's sort of the nature of the beast, so I can have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I need to watch the main again because that finish (GREAT in theory and in isolation, sorta anticlimactic in the larger context of the match) totally soured my impression of it. Bryan deserved much better than what he got from the layout (why kill the running knee?) and the near-burial on commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 The show overall......I thought a lot of the wrestling was good.....but that Memphis crowd sucked. And the commentary sucked. And crowd heat and commentary are very important things to me. You could see a lot of the guys actively trying to pump up the crowd and it just wasn't there. Â I actually really liked the opener and the Usos-Kidd/Cesaro match as far as match quality goes....thought both were very good. Cena/Rusev was good. Reigns/Bryan was good but the crowd was taking me out of it a bit. There were points where the crowd was quiet and one guy was yelling "BOOOOOO". Those dudes were put in a tough spot when it came to crowd reactions, didn't help that it was a shitty crowd, but I really liked a lot of the stuff in the match and thought Roman worked his ass off and showed a lot more than he does against Big Show or Kane in singles matches. There was some really noticeable stuff from him that didn't look good, but eh, I expect that. Â I hated the finish to that match, and I hated Reigns being the guy who survives the flying knee for the first time. Bryan knocked Cena out with it and won the world title. He beat HHH with it. It's a death move finisher in WWE. Kind of a waste to have Bryan hit it and Reigns kick out IMO. If he goes for it and Reigns catches him in the air and throws him out of the ring......ok....cool. But that was a terrible choice by whoever booked this match. Â I'm very curious what the WM plan is for Bryan now. Sheamus returning to fight him would be kinda lame. Ziggler and him would feel shoehorned in. I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR Ackermann Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015  Heels are supposed to cheat so there's nothing wrong with that, however in the context of a company where heels don't really cheat how does that effect the audience reaction? WWE heels cheat all the time. Excessively IMO. I liked the way that was done because Rusev doesn't need to cheat, it was an even match that he was winning on points, but he heard Lana on the apron and the ref going over, so he kicked Cena in the balls. why not? that's what heels do I'm really not sure where you're coming from with "in the context of a company where heels don't really cheat" when EVERY heel in WWE cheats. I like it better when it's like Rusev tonight, or Mr. Perfect....where these guys are really good and can beat anyone on any given night (cept for Hogan in Perfect's case).....but they are heels because they don't care about breaking the rules when the going gets tough  No they don't. Not by traditional wrestling standards. Heels win cleanly all the time, especially dominantly booked heels in Rusev's position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I could see them putting Bryan with Big Show. Â I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 So we have  Reigns/LesnarHHH/StingRollins/OrtonAmbrose/BNBTaker//Wyatt Cena/Rusev  pretty much set in stone for Mania (well, Ambrose/BNB might get dropped if they need more space on the card)  They kinda have to book Bryan/Ziggler unless one them is winning the Batte Royal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Not once in the last thirteen years has it been about that.  are you talking about the Rumble?  because in 2003-4 people wanted to see Benoit become a main event guy and the company went with it  in 2006 people wanted to see Rey Mysterio win and they went with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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