JRH Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Wild that Ozzy Osbourne got in the WWE Hall of Fame before the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaveri Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 10 hours ago, JRH said: Wild that Ozzy Osbourne got in the WWE Hall of Fame before the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Black Sabbath are in as a band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 25 minutes ago, Kadaveri said: Black Sabbath are in as a band. Are the Dio version of Sabbath in as well? Because if they aren’t, then fuck the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. EDIT: I just checked, and not only did Dio not get in with Sabbath, he is not in as a solo act. Well, at least Cher just got in. What a bunch of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Artists are supposed to become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Ozzy's first solo album came out in 1980, so he shouldn't even be eligible until next year. Than again, a good chunk of the inductees in recent years aren't even rock musicians, so there's no sense in quibbling over criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 40 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: Artists are supposed to become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Ozzy's first solo album came out in 1980, so he shouldn't even be eligible until next year. Than again, a good chunk of the inductees in recent years aren't even rock musicians, so there's no sense in quibbling over criteria. Are you trying to say that I am turning 24 this year and not 44? (I was born in 1980) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 I'm so used to calculating time periods starting in the early 2000s for work that I must have adopted that as my default starting date as a cognitive shortcut and turned 1980 into 2000 in my head. That's the only explanation I can offer for such a glaring error. Regardless, my overall point stands as long as you ignore the mistake that invalidates it. By the way, has there been an explosion of ads on this board for anyone else? There used to be just one at the top of the page, but now I'm seeing multiple ones in each thread interspersed between the posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 I had an epiphany today. Bear with me, as I struggle to try to explain myself as I go: When I was a kid growing up, my favorite wrestlers, as you can probably imagine, were just the top pushed babyfaces. Over the years, a lot of nostalgia makes it so that I fondly remember the likes of Hulk Hogan, The Ultimate Warrior & Jake "The Snake" Roberts. I'm able to separate the performer from the person, because I learned a lot more about each person over the years & none of them turned out to be super great dudes. I got into Japanese wrestling thanks to the internet become more stable at the end of the 90's. With watching Japan, tape trading & what not, I got into guys like Terry Funk & Stan Hansen. Other greats as well, too, like Kawada, Misawa, Kobashi, etc., but it was the Americans wrestling in Japan that stuck with me. It was kind of surreal to see a guy like Vader mean so little in WWF when he was such a monster in Japan. Or Scott Norton in WCW compared to Japan. When the Monday Night Wars were going on, I loved Raven & I used to really enjoy the Goldberg squash matches. Sting coming down to fight off all of the nWo by himself & hitting the Scorpion Death Drop on someone was must-see TV for me. I was real big into ECW in the late 90's too. Especially when they finally got their PPVs in my areas. I instantly became a fan of Rob Van Dam, The Dudley Boyz (who had the best finish I had ever seen!) and many more. So when my friends & I were talking, since most of us have been watching wrestling since the late 80's, we were talking about our favorite wrestlers over the years. I had my childhood favorites. I had my teenager favorites. I had my tape trading favorites & guilty pleasure wrestlers & all sorts of many guys from over the years, from all over the world. WWF, ECW, WCW, Japan... Then I realized, man, I never really give the proper respect to all the Indie wrestling I've watched over the years. Samoa Joe, despite wrestling in TNA, AEW & WWE, made me a believer because of his ROH run & the more I thought about it, the more I realized that I think Samoa Joe, just based off of the strength of his Ring of Honor run, is one of my favorite wrestlers. There was a time when I think ROH was the best promotion on the planet. Their roster was stacked. You had American Dragon, Jamie Noble, Homicide, Punk, Nigel, etc. all these crazy good wrestlers - many of which went on to much bigger things - and you had Samoa Joe holding down the fort. Looking like the ultimate bad ass. Sounding like the ultimate bad ass. Putting on a ton of good, believable, strong style matches. I still have the Joe Vs. Kobashi ROH DVD. It's a shame that Joe spent so long in TNA & got hurt because he deserved to have a bigger platform for a longer time but I'm glad he got his run in WWE & his run in AEW. Now that he's passed the torch to Swerve, I just wanted to give Joe his flowers because I feel like I've overlooked him a bit & he's one of the all-time greats, even if his peak was on the Indies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted Monday at 01:32 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:32 PM Been working overnights and loading up Fangoria from the start, and in Spring of 1982, there is a big back and forth between editors and readers over talking about pro wrestling stemming pretty much entirely from Ox Baker in Escape from New York. It was followed up with a feature on lucha horror movies, which in 1982 had to be pretty much unknown and inaccessible for US audiences unless they lived around the border and got Mexican programming on TV. Very interesting to see similar debates you'd see today in an unrelated magazine letters section before national expansion era.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted Monday at 04:02 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 04:02 PM Can you post the letter Lawler wrote (unless the letter was just that picture of Lawler and Ken Lucas)? On a side note, it's kind of weird that there were never really any wrestling based horror films (aside from the Mexican ones of course). You'd think that with both the 80s wrestling boom and the 80s slasher films there could be some film tying into both (or maybe the 90s wrestling boom and the 90s slasher revival even). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted Monday at 05:32 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 05:32 PM On the other hand, there were more horror-themed wrestling gimmicks than you could shake a stick at. As for the lack of wrestling-themed horror movies, my best guess is that movie studios, even low-budget horror ones, considered pro wrestling too far beneath contempt to acknowledge. Look at how wrestling fans were portrayed in Ready to Rumble (a movie, keep in mind, for which wrestling fans were the target audience). There were a few wrestling-themed porn movies during that era, which pretty well indicates how well it was regarded in the public consciousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted Monday at 08:49 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:49 PM Then again, slasher films were constantly villifed by most "Serious" movie critics anyway, so why not just make a wrestling-themed slasher? Just have some wrestler kill someone in the ring, get thrown in jail, then have him break out and go to some supercard and start picking off wrestlers. Simple plot right there (there were and still are more ludicrous plots and settings for slasher films). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted Wednesday at 03:33 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:33 AM There was 2013's Pro Wrestlers vs. Zombies starring Shane Douglas, Roddy Piper, Kurt Angle, Matt Hardy, & Jim Duggan. and 2011's "Monster Brawl" with Kevin Nash, Kurrgan, & Rosemary in it. All else that comes to mind is wrestler-featured but not wrestling-related like Kane's horror series See No Evil (2006) and it's 2014 sequel. And 2011's River of Darkness with Kurt Angle & Glacier starring and Kevin Nash & Sid as killer zombies. But there should definitely be more! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted Wednesday at 06:45 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:45 AM How have we not mentioned the greatest lost film since Theda Bara's Cleopatra: Santo Gold's Blood Circus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorBladeKiss Posted Wednesday at 01:15 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:15 PM Don't forget 2006's "WrestleManiac" featuring Rey Mysterio Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobholly138 Posted Wednesday at 03:53 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:53 PM Fist of the Vampire and there is a Werewolf movie from the same director. Both have Tommy Dreamer and Lanny Poffo and maybe Stevie Richards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted Wednesday at 05:26 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:26 PM Let's not forget Goldberg in Santa's Slay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDuke Posted Wednesday at 08:21 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:21 PM 2 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: Let's not forget Goldberg in Santa's Slay. "Joe, I thought this motion picture was called 'Christmas Sleigh.'" "I can handle this. What are you doing here?" "I own a sleigh. I don't see what this has to do with--" "No, no. 'Slay, slay.' Not 'sleigh,' but 'slay.' S-L-A-Y." "What?" "It's about an alien from outer space. He comes and terrorizes a bunch of kids over Christmas vacation." Â "Terrorizes children, did you say!? At Christmastime?!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM After months of debate, it was decided more people thought the wrestling shit was bullshit and didn't want to see it ever again than those who liked the "coverage", which was just talks in the op-ed section and a two part special on lucha horror movies. There was a brief turnabout in the letters to the editor section after Lawler/Kaufman slap on Letterman, but ultimately the haters won out on that front. But you know, there were a lot of letters to the editor that had people thinking The Shining/Halloween III/Poltergeist sucked around the same period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JRH Posted yesterday at 02:15 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:15 PM Today I learned that Jim Jamison (the second singer for Survivor and the singer of the Baywatch theme) sang the Big Bossman's Hard Times theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago On 4/23/2024 at 12:26 PM, The Thread Killer said: Are the Dio version of Sabbath in as well? Because if they aren’t, then fuck the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. EDIT: I just checked, and not only did Dio not get in with Sabbath, he is not in as a solo act. Well, at least Cher just got in. What a bunch of crap. Sounds like thats how she feels about it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago On 4/23/2024 at 12:26 PM, The Thread Killer said: Are the Dio version of Sabbath in as well? Because if they aren’t, then fuck the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  He isn't (as you checked) and agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago The Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame has been a joke for a long time. Oasis constantly getting snubbed is like Volk Han constantly getting snubbed for the WON Hall of Fame. I know the Gallagher brothers want nothing to do with it but put them in anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago I don't entirely disagree it with it being a joke but *Oasis* is the hill we're dying on to that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Honestly, does any Hall of Fame exist with unassailable standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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