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So you didn't book the match then, Rob?

:)

 

I DID go apeshit though, so at least there was some truth to the entire commentary fiasco...

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For those that subscribe to the online Observer, this week's 1992 classic issue is a must-read. Probably one of my favorite classic issues posted since they started with this, since there is little talk about the drug and sex scandals, and most of the talk is about the problems with morale the Watts regime in WCW at the time, along with a recap of Dave's trip to Japan and the start of the WWF/USWA working agreement. If you haven't already, give it a read.

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OK, translate.

Niebla is going to lend Casas the wig, and Niebla jokes that if Felino puts up his mask in a mask vs mask match against Mistico, he'll have the trashcan ready to cover his head.

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As I noted on another forum yesterday: Anyone else think it's kind of funny that a guy like Jim Cornette ,who's whole shtick was the pansy mama's boy who was always getting the short end of gimmick matches and feuding with women, hates Russo so much?

 

I mean, yeah, I get he's an old school Southern Rasslin' kind of guy, but is there really that big of a leap from Corny getting tarred and feathered back in the day to whatever-on-a-pole matches?

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That's like saying that because Jim booked (insert SMW or OVW wrestler here since I've hardly seen any of either) to turn heel then he doesn't have the right to complain about Russo booking two heel turns on every Nitro in 2000. I'm sure Cornette wouldn't have a problem with whatever-on-a-pole matches if they weren't tossed out there were no reason or explanation in the middle of an average impact. It's not so much what he does but how he does it, and if pole matches were the worst thing Vince Russo's booking had to offer he wouldn't get a tenth of the shit he gets. Nobody said Vince Russo invented bullshit in wrestling; why, bullshit is practically the foundation upon which wrestling is built. The problem is he doesn't know the different between fun bullshit and stupid bullshit.

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I'd add that even bullshit needs to have a purpose and make some sort of sense. Russo is notorious for having bullshit that goes nowhere or flies in the face of logical storytelling just to swerve the fans.

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Is there any reason why the Benoit vs Rad Radford match at the Stu Hart birthday show in '95 was relatively ignored in spite of being the only real WWF vs WCW match? At the time, nobody seemed to pay attention to the significance it it seemed like only a minor trivia note later.

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Is there any reason why the Benoit vs Rad Radford match at the Stu Hart birthday show in '95 was relatively ignored in spite of being the only real WWF vs WCW match? At the time, nobody seemed to pay attention to the significance it it seemed like only a minor trivia note later.

Now that's a random observation.:) I guess nobody really cared about this show, which was basically considered as an indy show with names that came form Calgary. What was the main event already ? Rad Radford was a JTTS and Benoit wasn't really established at that point, was he ? Was Nitro on the air yet ?

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The main event was Bret vs Davey with Bruce/Pillman vs Funks as the semi.

 

Even if it was the battle of two undercard guys, it was the first and only WWF vs WCW match, and it was in the middle of a heated wrestling war, as Nitro started 3 months earlier and Billionaire Ted was a few weeks away from debuting.

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I wonder if there was never some kind of bizarre interpromotionnal match happening in Japan too at some point... I could be wrong.

At the time of the first Pillman Memorial show, was Regal still employed by WWF, or was he in WCW ?

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Yeah, wouldn't he have been deported if he was fired? I think Meltzer had said something around that time that WWF and WCW kept signing him after the other company fired him to keep him in the US.

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Ok, one of only 2 real WWF vs WCW matches.

 

As far as Regal goes, he was in MCW for the WWF at the time of the Pillman show. I'm pretty sure he was a permanent resident by that point.

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There was a period in 1995 (I think - around the time of the Vader Road Kill tour) when WCW sent some very lower card talent like Scott Studd and The Gambler to the USWA and I am sure there was a Lawler v Gambler match (or tag match at least) at some point so that would count. I know it's a massive stretch calling it WWF v WCW but technically it might be true.

 

On an unrelated note how many guys can you name who are in this video:

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