KawadaSmile Posted October 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Cain really looked good in his debut match, but it was a six man tag and he didn't have to do things like sell or tell a story by himself. Ronda first appeared in Royal Rumble and only had a match like 4 months later after much pro wrestling training. Is Cain doing the same? If so, and proves to be at least good, then it's okay. People like Roman, Bryan, Lesnar and Braun can have good matches with him. Not sure he's getting a Ronda-like push, which would be good for all parties involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 I assume he is getting paid quite well for his participation in the WWE. He's gonna either be a main eventer or a special attraction. Anything else is just wasting that money they're paying him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 hours ago, DMJ said: I haven't seen his other matches and I know people said he looked great Eh, I think that's overstated. He looked great in the same way that Kevin Green in WCW looked great. He looked great in a "holy shit, he can do some things" instead of turning out like Jay Leno way. Not in a "wow, he's already good at pro wrestling" kind of way. Basically, he's an athlete that has potential. But that's from a pure physicality standpoint. The big issue for me going forward is that WWE is mostly about the non-physical aspect - the charisma, the showmanship, the talking... and I don't think Cain can do ANY of that. He's just going to stand there & look awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Wolfe Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Nah Cain has decent charisma, he's adapted well to a lot of situations. He'll do okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 hours ago, DMJ said: Completely agree. Not only is his appearance unimpressive - kinda reminds me of Baron Von Raschke - but I'm also going to admit that I don't view him as a "star" on the same level as other MMA or boxers they've brought in over the past few years. With Brock, you had a guy who had dominated the WWE when he came in, then left and proven he was the real deal in the UFC, then came back an even bigger star. With Ronda Rousey, you have the most famous female MMA fighter in the history of the sport, a woman who had totally broken through to the mainstream. With Floyd Mayweather, you had a self-promoting, media-grabbing machine who was the most famous boxer in the world and did not let anyone forget it. Like I said, I'm excited about this match because I'm really curious about what it will look like. But Cain Velasquez being a main eventer in the WWE moving forward? I don't see it. This match against Lesnar is just about the only one I am interested in. Granted, I haven't seen his other matches and I know people said he looked great, so maybe Velasquez/Reigns or Velasquez/Bryan would be fantastic matches...but I fear that, if you look at the rosters and consider Velasquez a babyface, we're more likely going to see him feuding with Baron Corbin and Dolph Ziggler anyway. With Velasquez, it's gonna come down to if WWE will ask him to work the way he did in AAA in his 2 previous matches or if they gonna ask him to work more of the classic MMA style. And that's what I'm afraid it's gonna happen with Velasquez in WWE. I hope they let him show his athleticism but I'm not getting my hopes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, SirEdger said: With Velasquez, it's gonna come down to if WWE will ask him to work the way he did in AAA in his 2 previous matches or if they gonna ask him to work more of the classic MMA style. And that's what I'm afraid it's gonna happen with Velasquez in WWE. I hope they let him show his athleticism but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'd bet my life savings that he'll be doing the Brock Lesnar moveset (cause that's what Vince thinks MMA looks like) with a huracanrana tossed in for the holy shit factor, and whatever they decide his finisher is going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Coffey said: Eh, I think that's overstated. He looked great in the same way that Kevin Green in WCW looked great. He looked great in a "holy shit, he can do some things" instead of turning out like Jay Leno way. Not in a "wow, he's already good at pro wrestling" kind of way. Basically, he's an athlete that has potential. But that's from a pure physicality standpoint. The big issue for me going forward is that WWE is mostly about the non-physical aspect - the charisma, the showmanship, the talking... and I don't think Cain can do ANY of that. He's just going to stand there & look awkward. I think it remains to be seen how he turns out. The real thing that made Ronda as revelation in my opinion was how strong her selling was. Cain hasn't really been tested in that capacity yet. I agree that he lacks the physical charisma of Brock or Ronda though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 So this week, Cain saw his buddy Rey's son get beat up and then got his ass kicked by Brock despite having Rey with him. Good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted October 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2019 What exactly would Rey do against Brock, when he had one good arm? Besides, Brock sneak attacked both men with a trash can, so it's justified. Dastardly tactics to put our heroes in peril! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted October 29, 2019 Report Share Posted October 29, 2019 Yeah it wouldn't have looked good either if they had Cain turn the tide against an ambushing Lesnar. They are meant to be portrayed as somewhat equals for the match to work. You win some, and you lose some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Natalya vs. Lacey Evans added to the card. The women have finally made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Here's to hoping no one gets murdered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, Coffey said: Here's to hoping no one gets murdered! "Gregory" Helms is an agent, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Alucard said: Natalya vs. Lacey Evans added to the card. The women have finally made it. Wait for the endless barrage of PR bullshit about "This is hope" and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Yeah, WWE, this'll really motivate me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 The big ALERT! looks like a Facebook Safety Check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Coffey said: Here's to hoping no one gets murdered! I'm actually kind of worried about the safety of the women. Not sure I'd trust WWE security if someone devoted to the cause and upset the government allowed womenfolk in decided to take one for the team. I suppose that's part of why the chose who they did for the match too. Have a Marine and a Dungeon trainee in there in case shit goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 If that one match against Charlotte on Raw is any indication, Lacey wouldn't be much of a threat at all in a shoot situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 I doubt Charlotte was shooting on her, and I also doubt someone who was a MP in the Marine Corps couldn't handle herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 That doesn't mean much since hand-to-hand combat training in the military is a joke, particularly at the lower levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 They should give Nattie the fart gimmick back again. Her crop dusting Saudi's would be the pinnacle of her career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 its SaudiMania time! Humberto wins a fun preshow battle royal dominated by Harper & Rowan. even got a decent Lets Go Harper chant from the crowd at the final 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Wow, Brock submits Velasquez with the Kimura in 2 minutes in the opener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Cain has to pay his dues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Someone changed the stipulation on Wikipedia for Natalya vs. Lacey Evans to "Burqa Singles Match". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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