Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?

[Jmare007]

8 minutes ago, Al said:

Bryan's book has a bunch of stuff about Vince teaching him how to cut promos. I think Vince probably did make Bryan better, tbh.

I remember that, but it seems they grew much closer since his retirement in 15' and his eventual comeback. The Vince stories and bizarre conversations Danielson probably has are probably a gold mine of funny content.

[DMJ]

I would easily call this his biggest match since SummerSlam against Cena.

I know the WrestleMania title win is, by its very nature, seen as a "bigger" match but, to me, the real star-making moment was when he beat Cena clean. After that, they basically booked everything in such a messy fashion that by the time we got to Bryan not being in the Rumble, then having to beat Triple H in the opener to get into the main event, it just all felt so overwrought and, dare I say, on the night of, predictable.
 

[Flyin' Brian]

So this is a thing. 

Not sure if it’s the best showcase for your new champion, but it looks like dumb fun at least. 

[El-P]

This is basically Fort Boyard !  

[SirEdger]

Never thought I'd read a Fort Boyard reference on this board! 

[sek69]

*has no idea what Fort Boyard is*

*looks it up*

Ya'll French are crazy 

[Coffey]

I've watched a lot of goofy game shows/contests, so it could be fun. Some of those SyFy shows that never make it to a second season, like Total Blackout, or the Soska Twins show that was on Netflix for awhile, Hellevator, can be pretty entertaining. Mostly just from seeing the people freak out, but you never know, New Day can be pretty endearing when they're cutting up & going full ham.

[KawadaSmile]

Bro no wondr Bryan and Vince are buddies. Danielson is weird as fuck with his verbiage.

Dude just doesn't give a fuck, I love it

[SteveJRogers]

1 hour ago, KawadaSmile said:

Bro no wondr Bryan and Vince are buddies. Danielson is weird as fuck with his verbiage.

Dude just doesn't give a fuck, I love it

I really want him to have a heel run with the AEW belt, so they can make an eco-friendly version as well!

[strobogo]

Can't wait for Don Callis to say something about apple cum on TNT

[C.S.]

Gran Metalik apparently requested his release from WWE.

No surprise there, considering how poorly he's been used (if used at all).

We'll see if he actually gets it.

[sek69]

Normally I'd think Metalik would get the "you can work anywhere but AEW" release and hope he goes back to Mexico, but he could just hop to AAA and face AEW guys there. 

[El-P]

Gran Metalik has been a gigantic waste of talent. Picture Kota Ibushi signing with WWE when they did that Cruiserweight Classic stuff... Yeah... No idea why WWE would not grant him his release at this point, he doesn't fit their plan whatsoever (and never has).

Of course he could end up in AAA or the indies. IMPACT seems like a cool destination too if AEW is out of the question, and really he comes from being so nothing for years that he would need to rebuild himself a bit.

[Jmare007]

You gotta get out of your head that Kota would've stayed put in WWE if he would've been signed (let alone wasted). Motherfucker would've showed up in GLEAT show in Japan in front of 100 people doing phoenix splashes to dolls on a weekend he wasn't working because he was bored and missed Japan

[El-P]

Speaking of which, I really haven't watched any of the GLEAT stuff but Tamura launching a semi-UWF tribute promotion in 2021 sounds cool as hell. 

[KawadaSmile]

Everytime Metalik appeared, he was nothing short of excellent. They half-assed the shit out of what could have been a fun trio in Lucha House Party and even worse, they chose TJP over him to be the winner of the CWC.

[sek69]

22 hours ago, El-P said:

No idea why WWE would not grant him his release at this point, he doesn't fit their plan whatsoever (and never has).

Because there's a very good chance he would be a star anywhere he went and even though they aren't hoarding talent anymore they are loathe to release someone like that. 

 

Also saw an Adam Cole interview where he mentioned his main roster discussions involved him changing his name and look, and that made him even less interested in signing with WWE. Their obsession with everyone having to be something they created and control even if it means throwing away an established name/character is such an underrated aspect of WWE's difficultly in creating stars. It's really hard for a new talent to become successful when their whole presentation just screams "artificially created for maximum corporate control". 

[ragemaster]

What I don't understand, is why they wait until they call up the wrestlers to change their gimmick. The whole point of NXT is to get them ready for the main roster, so NXT should be where they perfect that gimmick for the main stage. 

 

[El-P]

15 minutes ago, sek69 said:

Their obsession with everyone having to be something they created and control even if it means throwing away an established name/character is such an underrated aspect of WWE's difficultly in creating stars.

Bron Breakker. I don't care what anyone says, it's a dumb as fuck name when you can be called Rex Steiner. BECAUSE YOU LOOK LIKE FUCKING RICK STEINER AND SOUND LIKE BIG POPPA PUMP ALREADY ! BECAUSE YOU'RE THE SON AND NEPHEW ! 

I guess they figured the Steiner name was never a WWF/E thing, Rick was only there for a cup of coffee that wasn't very notable and Scott only came back to get HHHed for a minute or two. Still, it's so fucking dumb, especially in a company that is all about second and third generation guys.

[sek69]

Yeah, like I can almost see "Curtis Axel" because he really didn't look or wrestle like his dad, but BRON BREKKER's whole deal seems to be designed to put it front and center who he's related to. 

Having him out there like a wellness-approved Rick Steiner while forbidding the announcers from saying it is just bonkers. 

[Dale Wolfe]

Surely Rex Steiner is the main roster name and Bron Breaker is the development get your shit together with less pressure name? That's the way i read it

[Steenalized]

2 hours ago, Dale Wolfe said:

Surely Rex Steiner is the main roster name and Bron Breaker is the development get your shit together with less pressure name? That's the way i read it

That'd make sense so I can't see it going down that way

[El-P]

All of this is completely ridiculous. He should be Rex and come to this music theme, period, end of discussion.

 

[sek69]

I mean, WWE probably has ownership of that as part of buying WCW, right?  It won't even cost you a damn penny Vince!

[strobogo]

Hear me out

 

 

What if they did Steinerized but with a trap beat under it