joeg Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Yeah but that's not how things worked out , the only people in this who seem to be suffering any sort of real consequences are the ones who leveled accusations. Nobody accused of a crime really lost any bookings because of the accusations. Most indie guys hadn't worked since March anyways. And none of the major companies parted ways with their talent accused of misdeeds so their haven't been any real consequences. As evident by the last 3 election cycles, facebook and twitter are toxic environments only effective at spreading falsehoods not the truth, so why would somebody use it as a pIace to level true accusations of a crime? I would never be the victim of a crime and post about it. That would never enter my mind.... Pressing charges, yes. Filing a lawsuit, yes. Seeking vigilante justice, yes. All options I would consider, but going on social media to defame the perpetrator would never cross my mind. I feel like I derail on this soap box of the evils of social media every time speaking out comes up or every time the topic of the latest crazy thing Cornette tweeted comes up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike02 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 23 hours ago, sek69 said: Yeah but all the people he's suing are fellow broke ass indy wrestlers. Any lawyer taking on a client like him expecting to get money from the people he's suing needs to be disbarred. Speaking as an actual lawyer who has refrained from commenting until now, the conclusion reached here is ... grossly ignorant about legal ethics. Asking for money damages on behalf of a client is not grounds for disbarment in almost any circumstances. I have no opinion to share about the merits of the case, because like everyone else on this message board, I don't know nearly enough to offer an informed opinion. Much as I detest sexual abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksharesgraps Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 https://jacksharesgraps.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-sound-of-silence-njpw-and-speaking.html?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 BTW, remember when Teddy Hart was fired from MLW some times ago ? Well, I was wondering what happened to him then (because I was watching that Mox vs DBS Jr. match from Bloodsport which was pretty good but nothing special, really, like this whole card). Well, he has been arrested no less than 5 times since then, including for this : https://411mania.com/wrestling/teddy-hart-reportedly-arrested-today/ Well.... Teddy Hart ladies and gentleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 58 minutes ago, El-P said: Well, I was wondering what happened to him This might help, brother El-P. The "Is Teddy Hart in Jail" Twitter account, "keeping you in the loop". I think I found it in my FB feed from a wrestling funnies type of site (unless I saw it here in another forum in which case sorry for reposting). https://twitter.com/isteddyinjail?lang=en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, Dav'oh said: This might help, brother El-P. The "Is Teddy Hart in Jail" Twitter account, "keeping you in the loop". I think I found it in my FB feed from a wrestling funnies type of site (unless I saw it here in another forum in which case sorry for reposting). https://twitter.com/isteddyinjail?lang=en The absurdity is wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, El-P said: BTW, remember when Teddy Hart was fired from MLW some times ago ? Well, I was wondering what happened to him then (because I was watching that Mox vs DBS Jr. match from Bloodsport which was pretty good but nothing special, really, like this whole card). Well, he has been arrested no less than 5 times since then, including for this : https://411mania.com/wrestling/teddy-hart-reportedly-arrested-today/ Well.... Teddy Hart ladies and gentleman. Man, I liked Bloodsport 5, especially the Mox/DBS Jr match. I wasn't that high on 4. Most of the matches, and especially the finishes, just felt flat to me. I thought 5 was a big improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, El-P said: The absurdity is wonderful. Teddy Hart's life is the funniest sad, often disgusting thing there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Log said: Man, I liked Bloodsport 5, especially the Mox/DBS Jr match. I wasn't that high on 4. Most of the matches, and especially the finishes, just felt flat to me. I thought 5 was a big improvement. I thought the presentation was excellent, really liked the setting. But it's hard for me to get invested in a show with random guys having random matches twice a year, although they tried to tie in former victories. Also, no women match with was a disappointment. I enjoyed Romero vs Grimm the most I think, in a "undercard UWF-I match with random gaijins" way. DBS Jr. has been kind of a letdown on the last two Bloodsport shows to me. Mox vs Barnett could be great fun though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Expect that shithead Ryan to whine even more about cancel culture, right as he tries to use lawsuits to silence victims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 You're probably asking yourself "What kind of scumbag would book Joey Ryan in 2021, especially for a women's charity benefit show?" The answer to that question is quite simple: Joey Ryan himself. By the way, Project GRL is a fundie charity run by noted con artist and tax cheat Joyce Meyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: By the way, Project GRL is a fundie charity run by noted con artist and tax cheat Joyce Meyer. Wait, the same Joyce Meyer who is an evangelist? Damn, I thought she was one of the good ones. (I realize how naive that sounds right now...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 I've seen some wrestlers like Big Swole and Cheeseburger tweeting that the whole thing isn't happening. This isn't apparently the first time they're trying to do this show and ends up being cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 C'mon, guys. Ryan's putting on a show for "Women's Charity". You know, that charity that...uh...helps women? How can he be a bad guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Yeah the show got canceled and the charity did the old "people were offended so we shut it down" tweet, without acknowledging it was being organized by a serial assaulter who's trying to use the legal system to bankrupt his accusers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 Joey Ryan responds: Quote There have been a lot of narratives going around concerning the event announced on Tuesday and none of them are true. I’m not trying to “come back to wrestling.” When it was presented to me and the idea that I could wrestle a good friend as a way to go out and gain some closure, it sounded great. I agreed to help because of the delicacy of my involvement on two conditions. One, I couldn’t be used as a surprise on the day of the event. We needed to be transparent to fans and other wrestlers about my participation. And two, that 100% of the proceeds go to charity. We used Bar Wrestling’s Brown Paper Tickets account for convenience since the account already existed and has preferred status for quicker event approvals. It’s obvious now that wrestling twitter wasn’t ready for that. I know that wrestling is full of carnies who think that wrestling is full of carnies but I assure you there was nothing more to it. The blessing in disguise as it turns out, that is to say in the reaction to the announcement, was the closure I needed. I felt… I don’t know, indifferent about the reception. I was actually a little jazzed that I’m still over enough to trend on Twitter, which shows exactly where my priorities were. However, indifferent is honestly how I’ve felt about performing since the day after All In. I’ve also spent the past week or so reflecting on my defamation lawsuits and have decided to drop them, for the most part, including the ones that I’ve already won by default. There’s a misconception that I’m “suing everyone.” I’m not. I filed lawsuits against the four women who accused me of an actual crime, one person who misreported information and later admitted it and one person who made up stories about me. The only reason I filed any lawsuits was for some semblance of due process that I believe is due to persons accused of what I was accused of, instead of getting tried in the court of public opinion. I wanted to have all of the defendants in the lawsuits respond to the complaints so that they could explain why they made the false statements and explain the evidence that exists against their claims. A default judgment does not allow for the due process that I was seeking because the defendants did not want to participate so I am seeking to dismiss those cases. I was also hoping the lawsuits would permit an investigation through what is called the “discovery” phase in a lawsuit, which I wasn’t afforded because none of the accusers went to the police and IMPACT Wrestling decided to terminate our contract without so much as consulting me or conducting any investigation as mutually agreed upon in the terms before they terminated it. For full transparency, I am leaving the IMPACT Wrestling lawsuit open. Breach of contract is an entirely different issue. I know wrestling doesn’t have a union or really anybody to look out for us in contract negotiations but they have forced wrestlers to sit at home after disputes and wait out contracts with threats of breach. It would set a bad precedent to not hold them accountable to their side of these same contracts. As to the out of state defendants, I lost jurisdiction to have one of the cases litigated in California and it was moved to Pennsylvania. Based on the judge’s decision to have that case continue in the state where the defendant lives, it was a better decision to let the cases against the other out of state defendants be litigated in the areas where those defendants live. Those dismissals are all without prejudice so I have the option to refile them in their home areas. However, refiling them is no longer the plan. The one I’m still on the fence about dismissing is the case in Pennsylvania as he has displayed the most egregious conduct and dishonesty with his attempts to hijack the speaking out movement to settle a personal vendetta. The other cases were misrepresentations of actual encounters with those women but his are based on fiction. Whether it was his Tinder story about me or the messages he claims to have, none of it can be authenticated. I’ve never been on Tinder in my life and I have never been a friend or even knew of his ex’s personal Facebook page and she completely hid him and their relationship from her professional page. Those are things that I can authenticate. I didn’t even know she had a fiancé until recently and it’s been eight years since any sexual encounter with her and she has never accused me of any wrongdoing. I’ll make a final decision about this case in the coming week. I’d be lying if I said losing that Anti-SLAPP last week in one of the California State Court cases didn’t take the wind out of my sails and alter my thinking process. That was the one with the most evidence in my favor. There was a witness wiling to testify that what the witness walked in on was a consensual act. But ultimately, I kinda got what I wanted in the judgement. It said that she wasn’t stating a fact but rather just her opinion and that the evidence may show no sexual assault. I just can’t prove that she knowingly made a false statement which is required for defamation. That got me thinking that if I “win” these cases, what do I win? Would it be vindication or just validation? And if it’s validation then for who? Even if I “win,” I’ve still been a womanizer, been unfaithful, been selfish and self-seeking in my broken life. That doesn’t make me feel like a winner. But none of those things are criminal acts and those are the things I can and am working on. Oddly enough, I have to thank this person for filing the Anti-SLAPP motion because it helped to offer me more clarity in all this. There’s a silver lining to the allegations against me. I don’t have to live in secret anymore. I don’t have to hide my character defects or shame of cheating or lurk around in the shadows trying to pursue women. It’s all out in the open now and I can confront it and it’s been liberating. I’ve never known a freedom like this before. Breaking is healing and the scars are proof that we’ve healed. For the past eight months, I’ve been attending weekly Sex & Love Addicts Anonymous meetings both in-person and on Zoom. My addictions are most prevalent in intrigue and validation. It’s an emotional high and the women have been my fix. SLAA is a 12-step program and I’ve been stalled out a bit in the middle of it. I can’t fully give my resentments to God and expect to move forward and past them if I’m bound to these cases. I just want to get better and give my power and energy to the solution. I want to become the best version of myself that I can be. Carrying around hate doesn’t punish the people we think it does. I know my actions on social media as of late have not helped public perception of me. No matter how many times I’ve been criticized or the context of it, it can still hurt. And I do feel the weight of constant death wishes. If I don’t keep my ego in check when I perceive someone wants to attack me, my instincts can regress those of a child, taking it personally and lashing out and getting resentful. However, I ask that you put yourself in my shoes and think about how you may react to reframed allegations. Then people started throwing words around like “rape” and “pedophile” even when they weren’t in the accusations. It’s a natural reaction to defend yourself. This is something that I don’t wish on my worst enemies but it has pushed me towards seeking more forms of therapy to address deeper issues. I know there will responses to this statement. Opinions about the statement. Opinions about me. Opinions about what people believe I have done and what I have failed to do. Opinions about my past, present and future. My statement can be changed to fit the narratives of the opinionators. What cannot be changed is that this is my statement. https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/03/joey-ryan-statement-on-lawsuits-nixed-indie-event-says-hes-getting-help-for-addictions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 Too long, didn't read, fuck him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 I'll never pass judgment on another person's growth. If he's dealing with his issues, great. (I also won't pass judgment on whether he actually committed crimes.) But I still never want to see that dude tell someone to touch his dick on my TV ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Migs said: I still never want to see that dude tell someone to touch his dick on my TV ever again. If he does somehow get a second act in wrestling, I'm pretty sure that aspect of his character is forever done (for obvious reasons). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 He typed a lot of words to basically say "Someone smartened me up that suing people who accused me of sexual assault is a horrendously bad move that will certainly end whatever slim prospects I have to resume my career". I would hope he's sincere in his attempts to get better as a person, but part of that usually involves taking ownership of your deeds and he's showing none of that other than basically pulling the Big Pun style defense like "I'm not a rapist I just fuck a lot". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rah Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Look, I want to believe this is (hopeful) personal growth, but this part got me a little perplexed. Quote I’d be lying if I said losing that Anti-SLAPP last week in one of the California State Court cases didn’t take the wind out of my sails and alter my thinking process. That was the one with the most evidence in my favor. There was a witness wiling to testify that what the witness walked in on was a consensual act. But ultimately, I kinda got what I wanted in the judgement. It said that she wasn’t stating a fact but rather just her opinion and that the evidence may show no sexual assault. I just can’t prove that she knowingly made a false statement which is required for defamation. I don't know enough of the details so my perspective could be why but... uh what? If that's so, then surely he's more dropping these suits as he lost the one he apparently had "da fax" to prove his case. Proceeding (and losing/having them thrown out) with anything else would just be PR suicide for him at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallmike Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Speaking of booking sexual harassers, this is not a good look, NWA. He's being sued for sexual harassment related to his FoxNation job. https://deadline.com/2019/12/britt-mchenry-fox-news-tyrus-1202805957/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Its not a defense of Tyrus, but I'm not sure anyone who cashes checks from that company has much standing to make claims against anyone for any kind of inappropriate behavior. Glass houses and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, WingedEagle said: Its not a defense of Tyrus, but I'm not sure anyone who cashes checks from that company has much standing to make claims against anyone for any kind of inappropriate behavior. Glass houses and whatnot. What ? One has strictly nothing to do with the other. It doesn't matter what company you are working with or what are you beliefs or political opinions. Being sexually harassed is being sexually harassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 If you take a paycheck from Fox to produce, deliver or facilitate the content they put out it should disqualify you from complaining about a damn thing that happens to you there. But this is PWO so we'll leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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