Jmare007 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, MoS said: I have read different - see my response to fxnj. It should be clearer when the Observer comes out I fucked that up (and edited my post), I wanted to say it wasn't shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 4 minutes ago, Jmare007 said: Yo, the crowd doesn't give a single fuck about this beatdown, lol. They have less than 3,000 fans in a building that seats 13,500. Even if the fans were hot (which they really don’t seem to be) it would probably still sound dead in there. And this show really isn’t giving them anything to cheer about, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, The Thread Killer said: They have less than 3,000 fans in a building that seats 13,500. Even if the fans were hot (which they really don’t seem to be) it would probably still sound dead in there. And this show really isn’t giving them anything to cheer about, either. I was wondering how big the building was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Poor Tony having serious flashbacks "Not this shit again...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 24 minutes ago, sek69 said: A large part of how ECW got built as the cool alternative was Paul E, either directly or through proxies, cutting promos on TV about how WCW and WWF were all a bunch of pussies and I expect this is what Tony is going for since he was an ECW mark. ECW was never even close to profitable, so I hope TK would know better than to adopt them as a business model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 One of the things I've never understood about AEW is Tony's insistence on never making the fans know who of the company's stars will be every week in each show. Tonight they had Mercedes, Ospreay and Okada and it would've been impossible to know in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Bucks worse edgelords than MJF, get out of here with that bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Swerve and Joe's feud is cool and has been well built. Ospreay's continues to show he's their best babyface promo. The rest was either horrible or forgettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 What a wet fart of a "fight". OTOH, it got me to tune in so it probably worked on a few more folks than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Tony Khan is a rich man's Eric Bischoff. His instincts are pretty much the same, and they aren't good. Takes a lot of skill to get your fans chanting the name of the person you want to vilify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 WWE's footage of Brock throwing the Universal belt right at Vince in Gorilla was more interesting that this shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Jesus, this company is nothing but weak-willed, petty fucking man children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Jmare007 said: I was wondering how big the building was. The building normally seats 13,500. The last time AEW ran the building, they drew 4,168. This time they had it set up for 3,312 (they had the “hard camera” side blocked off with no fans at all) but they still only drew 2,971. Tonight, they were basically trying to just sell floor seats, and the lower level on one side of the building, and they still couldn’t do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Seems like they are going after the footage on Twitter now...which seems....uhh....not exactly productive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 All of this is just so dumb and reinforces the worst aspects of pro wrestling. Just moronic across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Oh dear. What a way to practically undo the goodwill they’ve had with me after a great 2024 up to now. Maybe the ratings will be great but I’m not convinced this is a good idea at all and it feels like a gigantic self-sabotage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Wolfe Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Terrible decision, this Feels a bit like mid-South running videos of Bundy/JYD etc losing after they jumped to WWF. Borderline fake Diesel territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Wolfe Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Interesting to watch it play out on twitter, though. Almost immediate terrible feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Dale Wolfe said: Terrible decision, this Feels a bit like mid-South running videos of Bundy/JYD etc losing after they jumped to WWF. Borderline fake Diesel territory It immediately made me think of JYD stuff when I heard they were going to do it, considering the motivation for both was clearly "promoter pissed about losing their top draw". Also I think people keep forgetting folks were mad at the fake Diesel stuff even before the "reveal" since it was clearly going to be bait and switch bullshit no matter what happened. WWF was making the fans not tuned into the backstage news think it was actually going to be Kevin Nash and Scott Hall showing up, to the point of having respected and trusted announcer JR be the one to make the announcement. It wouldn't have been obvious to those fans that JR was setting up a heel turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Chris Hero and HOOK have the best reactions in the footage. Loved how Samoa Joe did not even look up throughout the confrontation until Punk was already trying to put the guillotine on JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 I don't think it was quite Russo tier stuff, but it was just a step or two away. The FTR promo wrapped it back around to a wrestling promo and moving on from all Punk bullshit, but the whole thing seemed needless for all involved. And clearly was just because Tony was mad at Punk's shit talk over WM week and that spiraling into a bunch of shots at AEW during the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Using the All In footage as part of an angle makes the Elite's refusal to work with Punk look even worse in retrospect. And if airing the footage was intended even partially to embarrass Punk, it failed miserably. He wasn't shown up at all in the scuffle, nor did he look so out of control that he clearly had to be fired. To top it all off, the crowd was chanting for the guy the company was trying to bury. Just a massive self-own all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmo Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 The Bucks are a cancer. Sorry. The sooner Tony realizes that these are the wrestling of Craig Kline and they run them off the better. Really it’s the only way for AEW to survive. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/oct/09/fa-fulham-assistant-director-allegations this doesn’t have the whole story but the quote is a tell for me “My friend Tony & I built a paper trail and tried to report & do right for years, us both death threatened to not [sic]. So much fraud in football, FA where are you? So much child endangerment & exploitation. I have a lot of evidence, authorities, please request” Now here’s the rub not only was this proven to be incorrect but the guy ended up getting in legal trouble. It’s sounds a lot like the way the Bucks sound about AEW. Sooner Tony, Shad, or anyone in power realizes this the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Pete Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 3 hours ago, sek69 said: It immediately made me think of JYD stuff when I heard they were going to do it, considering the motivation for both was clearly "promoter pissed about losing their top draw". Also I think people keep forgetting folks were mad at the fake Diesel stuff even before the "reveal" since it was clearly going to be bait and switch bullshit no matter what happened. WWF was making the fans not tuned into the backstage news think it was actually going to be Kevin Nash and Scott Hall showing up, to the point of having respected and trusted announcer JR be the one to make the announcement. It wouldn't have been obvious to those fans that JR was setting up a heel turn Not only did they have JR announce it on the show, but they had him claim it was the biggest story of his 20 year career and for all the details they needed to call his hotline. In fairness, the 'casuals' would have known ahead of time they weren't going to see the return of Nash and Hall because Monsoon revealed as much beforehand and called JR's credibility into question. Somehow JR accepted all of the blame for what was a lameduck idea. Between that, LiveWire, Pillman's gun and the (original) Sunny tape, the proto-Attitude stuff was incredibly lame and desperate. Thank god for Bret and Austin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Punk was actually saying the truth and only look cooler because right after that he was having the best match on AEW's biggest live event ever. When people think about that All-In, they'll think about Punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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