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How long before Backlund is appearing full-time in Central States?

Worst would equal useless as far as a fan is concerned. If it's a show devoid of good matches what use is it to you as a fan?

International Wrestling 7/8/83 (taped 7/6/83 in the Paul Suave Arena, Montreal, Quebec) Opening/1st match (0:00 - 10:00) The show opens with a montage of the Rougeaus, Brito/Parisi, Armand Rougeau, Gilles Poisson, Mad Dog Lefebvre, Louis Laurence and Richard Charland followed by the International Wrestling Association logo before cutting to Jacques Rougeau, Sr. in the ring. Jacques, Sr.: Welcome fans to International Wrestling on Friday Night. We have a great show for you tonight that features some of the new faces you'll be seeing plenty of over the next few months- Rougeau is cut off by a very loud round of boos from the fans and turns to the entranceway. Captain Lou Albano, Tonga John (in plain short tights with no boots or pads) and King Tonga (in loos long pants with no boots or pads) come to the ring with a few pieces of garbage thrown their way. Rougeau waits patiently for the trio to enter the ring before addressing Albano. Jacques, Sr.: It doesn't seem like the fans here in the Paul Suave Arena are very happy to see you and your charges, Mr. Albano. Albano: Good for them. Let me tell you a story, Rougeau. I came in here and the first two people I met were two poor Tongan wrestlers who had been denied a chance to prove themselves by Frank Valois and his goons for no good rea- Jacques, Sr.:They beat up a man for no- Albano snatches the microphone from Rougeau. Albano: These two men have beat up a lot of people, Rougeau. And if you interrupt me again they are gonna add one more to that number. These men deserved a chance at those titles and now they feel wronged. These men, no, not men. These are monsters. It didn't have to be this way, but nothing can change that now. These monsters are going to show you, Frank Valois, the fans and the other wrestlers that they will not be denied a chance at gold. The man who is responsible for this is not here tonight and that's a shame. Now everyone has to pay. Every action has consequences and Frank Valois will see tonight the consequences of his actions last Saturday. Bobby and Rudy Kay emerge from the back as Albano exits the ring and the Tongan wrestlers proceed to attack them before they even start entering the ring. King Tonga/Tonga John against Bobby & Rudy Kay The Tongan wrestlers dominate this from the start to finish, King Tonga showing off his kicks and headbutts before Bobby Kay walks into a savate kick from King Tonga. Tonga John climbs the top rope and hits a diving headbutt to put Kay away. The Tongans continue the assault, clubbering and stomping both of their fallen foes until the commercial break. King Tonga/Tonga John by pinfall with a combination savate kick/diving headbutt 4:19 Commercial Break (10:00 - 20:00) The Tongan wrestlers are being dragged from ringside by several security officers, referees and wrestlers from the back. They make several attempts to get back to the ring only to be driven back by superior numbers. Randy Rose makes his way to the ring to loud boos. Tim Gerrard gets little to no reaction, but some of the crowd seem to want to cheer him. Randy Rose vs. Tim Gerrard Rose dominated from the get-go, but Gerrard got in a quick comeback before Rose hit a side suplex after several punches. Rose locked in a crab, but the plucky Gerrard made the ropes. Rose had enough and picked Gerrard up before climbing to the second turnbuckle and hitting a powerslam for the win. Rose over Gerrard by pinfall with a second rope powerslam at 5:48 Rose was out of the ring quickly following his victory, leaving only the battered Gerrard to get beaten by King Tonga and Tonga John as they crashed the ring, Albano pointing at the downed Gerrard. Gerrards brother and tag partner Alex came out for the save but is immediately overwhelmed. The scene going to commercial break #2 is very similar to the first. Commercial Break (20:00 - 36:30) The Tongans were once again being herded to the back with no sign of Albano. The camera cuts to Albano in the back with a microphone in the backstage interview area. Albano: I told you these men are monsters. Not just monsters, terrors! Nobody in the arena is safe! The scuffle of King Tonga and Tonga John being escorted to the back breaks into the shot. Albano says a few words to his wrestlers and they stop fighting to get back to the ring. The assorted personnel wrestling the Tongans away from the ring warily back away before returning to whatever they were doing. Albano: Frank Valois will regret the day he decided to leave my terrors out of the tag tournament. I give to you, ladies and gentlemen, the future Canadian International Tag Team champs, the Tongan Terrors! You will be afraid of them, I can guarantee you that. These monsters are large, strong, agile, ANGRY men who want nothing more than what they deserve. They will get it. The camera cuts back to the ring after Albano and the newly named Tongan Terrors walk away. All three Rougeau brothers walk to the ring to massive cheers from the crowd. Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson and Richard Charland emerge as their opponents to boos. The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers & Armand Rougeau vs. Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson & Richard Charland The Rougeaus were able to dominate the early going much to the crowd's delight. Poisson used a handful of Armand Rougeau's hair off of a rope break to bludgeon the least experienced Rougeau with a few big forearms. The heels worked Armand over until he fired up and overcame Charland with rapid fire right hands. Raymond took the hot tag and cleaned house before getting in an intense brawl with Lefebvre. The Rugeaus looked ready to put the match away when the Tongan terrors again hit the ring, Albano pointing out Armand Rougeau and Charland as targets. This time they were driven back after the initial surprise as all six men in the ring banded together to clear them out. No Contest due to interference at 12:25 Commercial Break with Upcoming Show Advertisements July 9th at Paul Suave Arena, Montreal Quebec Gino Brito against King Tonga Phil Lafon, Jim Brunzell and Tony Parisi against Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson and Tonga John Armand Rougeau will be in action! July 12th at Gatineau, Quebec The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers & Armand Rougeau against The Midnight Express & Mad Dog Lefebvre Rene Goulet against Tonga John July 13th at Paul Suave Arena, Montreal, Quebec The Midnight Express and Dan Johnson against Gino Brito, Tony Parisi and Louis Laurence The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers against Phil Lafon and Jim Brunzell Armand Rougeau against Mad Dog Lefebvre (36:30 - 57:00) Albano and the Tongan Terrors are in the interview area in back when we return from break. Albano: You can't say I didn't warn you. I told you everyone was gonna pay and they have. I also told you that these guys are monsters and they are. Not only that, they are MY monsters. When I tell them to destroy someone, they do it. When I tell them to stop, they stop. That means you won't be seeing a whole lot out of anyone besides my monsters, because I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. You may as well get used to this fans, because I can guarantee you'll be seeing a lot of it. Jim Brunzell is not here tonight, but I can be patient when I need to be. Next week we get our hands on Brunzell and he pays very personally for what he did! Dennis Condrey comes to the ring greeted by heavy boos from the fans. Gino Brito gets a really big pop and the crowd is buzzing for the main event. Dennis Condrey vs. Gino Brito The match started out with Brito working over an arm and Condrey coming back with a mixture of brawling and headlocks and chinlocks. Brito started brawling as well, uncorking big right hands. Condrey came back with more brawling, but Brito will not to be denied. Brito gets a few nearfalls before Condrey ducks a right hand and hits a back elbow that staggers Brito into the corner. Right hands by Condrey leave Brito in bad shape and Condrey drapes him over the middle rope, bounces off the far ropes and sits down across his upper back. A clothesline in the center of the ring by Condrey sets him up for a big running leg drop that nearly put Brito away. The crowd give Brito and Condrey plenty of notice that the Tongan Terrors were coming and Condrey bailed. Brito iss waiting on the Tongans to attack when Condrey slides into the ring from behind and nails him with a few forearms to the back before hitting a full nelson facebuster. Condrey again bailed and left ringside as Albano signals to the Terrors it was time to attack. The Tongans go to work on Brito, which brings out his tag partner Tony Parisi. Parisi has some success, but it is short lived as King Tonga caught him with a savate kick while he was focused on Tonga John. The Tongans continue their assault while the fans throw garbage into the ring at them. The Rougeaus sprint down to ringside and chase the Tongans off to end the show. Gino Brito wins by DQ when the Tongan terrors interfere at 17:22 Dark Matches: pre-show Tony Ricco vs. Simon Dupree was a no contest when Tonga John & King Tonga attacked both. Louis Laurence vs. Dan Johnson was a no contest when Tonga John & King Tonga attacked both.

I doubt it would have much to do with Rusev and Lana understanding history as much as how perceptive they are. You can have super smart people who don't understand a bit when it comes to personal interactions and what they mean and the other way around.

Yeah I don't have that kind of problem. It's yet another fun little difference we will all have on our shows. Really the point of all of this is seeing how people present things and the differences between real life and what we do as well as the differences between the promotions in our timeline.

Here's an exercise for anyone who has access to a certain website. There is a tag match between the MVC and Kawada/Taue on 7/26/93. Then there is a six minutes out of the 8:30 6 man sprint from two days later immediately following that tag match. You tell me which is more entertaining. I know it's newly formed 1993 Kawada/Taue, but the fact that an eight minute six man is far easier to watch says a lot.

I absolutely loved this match. Fuchi should be remembered as a superworker and this match is a part of that resume. 1991 to mid 1993 Fuchi was ridiculous kinds of good at being a cranky old bastard who tied the kids into knots. Honestly I think he should be required watching for any wrestler past the age of thirty. So simple, yet so effective. Kawada vs. Misawa was off the charts awesome and better than the 1995 match where Kawada chokes Misawa out and gets his due. This match being so unknown seems criminal.

I'd have it written but I can't copy and paste. I tend to work from a rough outline.

I happen to come down on the side of GOTNW here, but I feel like we need to tone the tempers down. It's an argument on an internet message board fellas. I have that criticism of a lot of modern wrestling really. There is a distinct lack of meaningful transitions and more emphasis on getting in as much big stuff as possible during the finishing stretch. I won't try to stop anyone from enjoying something like Owens/Balor, but it's not my cup of tea.

My TV taping is today but I'll do a full write-up on the 8th when it would air.

I am liking NXT less and less and I can see myself unsubscribing to the Network after I hit all the stuff I want to. If Mania next year has the lineup I expect instead of Reigns vs. Lesnar 2 and NXT continues to go downhill I'm not sure it takes a long, long time. I'd miss the Becky Lynch and Sasha stuff as well as the Vaudevillains, Itami when he returns and Breeze, but I am finding more and more that modern wrestling goes away from a lot of the things I value in wrestling. NWA Classics seems a lot more up my alley in terms of the wrestling they have available, especially if they start putting together full cards and footage from feuds that my not have been available before.

Same. From what little I've seen of both Rose and Condrey they are impressive.

The match where he teams with Shinzaki against the Holy Demon Army is pretty boss too. 'Busa's big spots and Shinzaki's rope-walking chop are made into monster spots by the build.

Hara in late 80s All Japan was a discovery and a half for me. I felt like he had some of the major aspects of what would become All Japan style long before anyone else did. Tenryu seemed to come alive once Hara started teaming with him.

No reason it has to happen exactly the same way that it did. And who's to say Flair won't lose the belt in a year or sooner? There are all kinds of possibilities.

This was cookie cutter veteran vs. rookie All Japan stuff, but executed in a way that made it incredible. I loved Akiyama working back to a dive after Kawada's baiting. Every transition was fought for. Kawada as a giant prick helped make this match what it was, but you can't take away Akiyama's side of things given he had been wrestling for less than 10 months at this point.

It wasn't something I cared much for, but I get what they did and why. It looked a lot like that faux 90s All Japan style that the U.S. indies and to a point modern New Japan like to employ. Lots of big moves with little to no consequence besides nearfalls and laying around.

Happy 32nd birthday sir.

Yeah, reading this I was wondering where the need for help was. Great stuff.

I think a lot of us feel that way. We all have a bunch of guys who weren't in the territory the month before that we need to fit into place.

I liked using established talent to introduce new guys and give an idea of where they belong on the card. Overall was a very good introductory show getting all the important new names out there.

I liked the TV writing. I think it's going to be interesting seeing different things like the match/promo/angle ratio everyone goes with and how they structure their shows.

Thanks, it's mostly low end setup so I wasn't overly ambitious. I'm in a position that involves the people I want to be my big names not being really over yet and a lot of the people who are over won't get any kind of name recognition from most. Just gonna have to push through that and be patient. July 5th, Saguenay, Quebec, (1,700) "the Farmer" Louis Laurence and Tony Ricco defeated Tim & Alex Gerrard Dave Kochen defeated Rudy Kay Rene Goulet defeated Gilles "the Fish" Poisson Gino Brito and Tony Parisi defeated Richard Charland and Dan Johnson The Fabulous Rougeau brothers and Armand Rougeau defeated the Midnight Express and Mad Dog Lefebvre

This week's NXT was middling at best. Seeing Dash & Dawson get a little time to work was fun. The Vaudevillains as faces may be more fun than they are as heels. I hope they get a tag title run. Emma getting one of her submissions back on Carmella was good booking, It's old school predictable so I would have never guessed it would happen on a WWE sponsored show. Not an awful match either. They got scared with Baron and shifted him back to squash format. Way to kill his chances to learn. The fans aren't going to like him in longer matches because he shouldn't be in them. But if the push is necessary so is some seasoning and working those matches with a hostile crowd is what he's gonna have to do if he wants to get any better. I'm intrigued as to who Sasha's partner will be and sad that Becky Lynch will be out for a while. I hope Sasha can get something out of Brooke as the de facto babyface. Strange booking switch there from the "Brooke hates Charlotte" angle. It's starting. WWE type booking is seeping in gradually, but mark my words it will take over the show. Main event was predictable, but not awful. Everyone held up their end and Rhyno didn't stink the joint up. They did a nice tease of the opposite of expected to set up the Balor win going into his loss this morning. Overall I think the injuries are really forcing some things to happen that would have waited a while. I don't understand the Sasha/EmmaBrooke/Charlotte booking yet, but I hope it's not what I think it is.

They were a real highlight during their run with the titles, but became an afterthought pretty much the instant they dropped them it seemed like. It seems unfair to say, but they are a victim of the WWE's OCD midcard booking. You give them a run like the Shield had with some of the midcard talent the WWE had in 2013/2014 and they are right up there with the Shield as a contender. I'd say they are a pretty big contributor to the Shield's case.