kjh Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 If the best TNA can get is Destination America, then I doubt Jeff Jarrett will have much luck finding a TV deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooley Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 If the best TNA can get is Destination America, then I doubt Jeff Jarrett will have much luck finding a TV deal. Would cable execs really even differentiate between the two though? To them, they're both just a non-WWF rasslin show. I don't think TNA's reputation would grant them much over a Jarrett start-up. Let's say they both walk in to pitch. Dixie: "We've been losing millions despite being on national TV for years". Jarrett: "I used to be a big star in the WWF and this is my friend Toby Keith". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 It's all rasslin' to TV execs. Not even WWE could get an offer from anyone when their deal was up. There's pretty much zero interest anywhere, ROH happened to get lucky to be bought by a TV company looking for low priced content for their stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Rewatching some WWE PPVs from early 2010. Cole, Lawler and Striker are brutal together. Noticed Lawler getting testy with Striker at times during Extreme Rules, then watched Punk v Rey at Over the Limit and... oh dear. Awkward! What's the story? Lawler just getting more and more annoyed having to listen to Striker's pontificating and then having unprofessional on-screen hissy fits? Actually felt embarrassed for Cole trying to hold things together. It's as bad as any Heenan-Schiavone bust ups on Nitro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pol Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Speaking of Striker, Lucha Underground was great again last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 In case anyone was wondering what Vampiro is up to these days: http://www.tbnewswatch.com/News/365024/Angels_en_route- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 He's been with the Guardian Angels for about 10 years now. Didn't Big Boss Man do work with them as well once upon a time or am I imagining that as part of storylines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 The story for me is more about him coming home to establish a chapter here. This is a pretty weird town so it'll be interesting to see if it's accepted, rejected, or if City Council decides to commission a million-dollar study to determine whether or not it's warranted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 If the best TNA can get is Destination America, then I doubt Jeff Jarrett will have much luck finding a TV deal. Would cable execs really even differentiate between the two though? To them, they're both just a non-WWF rasslin show. I don't think TNA's reputation would grant them much over a Jarrett start-up. Let's say they both walk in to pitch. Dixie: "We've been losing millions despite being on national TV for years". Jarrett: "I used to be a big star in the WWF and this is my friend Toby Keith". I disagree. TNA can point to nine years of drawing a 1.0 rating for Spike TV and having much bigger ex-WWE stars than Jeff Jarrett under contract. That track record counts for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 If the best TNA can get is Destination America, then I doubt Jeff Jarrett will have much luck finding a TV deal. Would cable execs really even differentiate between the two though? To them, they're both just a non-WWF rasslin show. I don't think TNA's reputation would grant them much over a Jarrett start-up. Let's say they both walk in to pitch. Dixie: "We've been losing millions despite being on national TV for years". Jarrett: "I used to be a big star in the WWF and this is my friend Toby Keith". I disagree. TNA can point to nine years of drawing a 1.0 rating for Spike TV and having much bigger ex-WWE stars than Jeff Jarrett under contract. That track record counts for something. That will certainly count for something. On the other hand, so will Spike walking away from that track record and the shenanigans that brought things to that point. Its up to each team of execs to determine how to weigh those factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooley Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 If the best TNA can get is Destination America, then I doubt Jeff Jarrett will have much luck finding a TV deal. Would cable execs really even differentiate between the two though? To them, they're both just a non-WWF rasslin show. I don't think TNA's reputation would grant them much over a Jarrett start-up. Let's say they both walk in to pitch. Dixie: "We've been losing millions despite being on national TV for years". Jarrett: "I used to be a big star in the WWF and this is my friend Toby Keith". I disagree. TNA can point to nine years of drawing a 1.0 rating for Spike TV and having much bigger ex-WWE stars than Jeff Jarrett under contract. That track record counts for something. It counts for absolutely nothing because Spike couldn't sell an ad on the show. That's not something you want as part of your pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pol Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 The Alberto el Patrón/Mesías vs. Perro Aguayo Jr./El Texano Jr. match from last month that aired on the latest Sin Límite was really very good, I thought. It's nice to see Alberto doing his thing in front of an audience that actually gives a shit - unsurprisingly, he seems a lot more motivated now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I was just thinking about trying to nominate Alberto Del Rio myself but wasn't sure if I would be able to make a strong enough claim to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Watched some stuff from Hawaii from the 80's. Kamalamala. Yep. Kamalamala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 I just found out that in the 60s there was a midget wrestler called Chico Santana. I'm now wondering if Jesse was obliquely referring to that midget wrestler all those years he called Tito "Chico". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 It would make sense, as Jesse grew up in Minnesota and it looks like Chico Santana wrestled for the AWA in the 60s. Interesting bit of trivia Here's Chico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I just found out that in the 60s there was a midget wrestler called Chico Santana. I'm now wondering if Jesse was obliquely referring to that midget wrestler all those years he called Tito "Chico". This is a Titans Extra scoop. This is better than your multiple Vince time travelling theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is better than your multiple Vince time travelling theory. I would LOVE to hear about this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think that Vince in 1985 or 1986 went back and dubbed over the orginal 1980 commentary to Bruno Sammartino vs. Larry Z -- when they released the "Best of WWF Vol. 1" (or whatever it was) VHS tape. This is because Vince calls that like "shouty mid-80s Vince", not like the calm sportscaster 70s Vince who was still calling matches like that in 1980. If you analyse the cadence of his voice, it's clearly the slightly older Vince. Also there are zero contemporary references during the match or callbacks to other parts of the feud. It just seems like a re-dub. Who knows why Vince felt it necessary to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think that Vince in 1985 or 1986 went back and dubbed over the orginal 1980 commentary to Bruno Sammartino vs. Larry Z -- when they released the "Best of WWF Vol. 1" (or whatever it was) VHS tape. This is because Vince calls that like "shouty mid-80s Vince", not like the calm sportscaster 70s Vince who was still calling matches like that in 1980. If you analyse the cadence of his voice, it's clearly the slightly older Vince. Also there are zero contemporary references during the match or callbacks to other parts of the feud. It just seems like a re-dub. Who knows why Vince felt it necessary to do this. There was no commentary done live for the Shea Stadium show and Coliseum tapes almost always overdubbed Philly commentary. So that covers a lot of the feud. If he overdubbed a MSG match, then, well, I dunno why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 It wasn't even the MSG match that Parv is referring to--it's the actual Poughkeepsie bout with the heel turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yeah, the way I remember it is that Parv thought the commentary by Vince during the match where Larry turned on Bruno from Best of Vol 1 was done by 1985 Vince. But it wasn't...clearly, to everyone one of us but him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 It so was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pol Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 So did anyone else watch the Delta/Fuego/Guerrero Maya Jr. vs. Hechicero/Hombre Sin Nombre/Virus match cubsfan just uploaded today yet? Because god DAMN what a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexstar Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Forgive my ignorance of 80s NWA here - is Darsow supposed to be an actual Russian in his Khruschev gimmick? I'm guessing no? But all I've got to go on is what's on WWE Network and Wiki so I'm not entirely clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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