sek69 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I don't know if they're ever going to be best pals, but it seems like they buried the hatchet enough to be civil to each other at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Was just about to post that lol. I didn't see the match, but one thing I am very curious about is if Ric and Bret buried their animosities any. I hope so, Ric needs as much emotional support from his peers at this point in his life. They very, very much have actually. They buried the hatchet completely after Reid died. No more grumpy old men or "babyfacing" each other in person. They were very pally at NXT Arrival too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I like the Rollins turn just because I think this will bring about some good matches in the next few months, but... My biggest thought about his "motivation" is the one that, unfortunately, has the least likely possibility of happening, at least in terms of realistic expectations. Still, bear with me on this thought: Batista leaves the WWE because Triple H doesn't grant him a title shot. Why not? No real reason given except that he's pissed at Batista for losing at Mania, Extreme Rules, and Payback. Okay, fair enough. But, really, it IS what was promised him and, with dozens of television/special events down the line, I'm not really sure why Triple H would deny Batista's request, especially against an injured Bryan. Triple H's reason should've been that he already promised the first title shot to someone else - which would have been a good, simple question mark for the entire broadcast. Is it Orton? Triple H himself? Cut to the last segment. Rollins turns. It is obvious he has turned in exchange for a shot at Daniel Bryan. BUT...Daniel Bryan is injured. For god knows what reason, Kane is still in line for a title shot despite a clean loss at Extreme Rules and absolutely no heat. Plus, doesn't Orton still get a rematch sometime? Besides, Rollins is probably not getting a title match on PPV this year unless they're WAY higher than him than most think. All those reasons tell me that, even if my little scenario/storyline was suggested, it was quickly denied. But, I still think it's arguably the most sensible reason for why a member of The Shield would turn. The "personal gain" should be more than money, more than promises of a shot in a future MITB match, more than just "opportunity" - it should be a pretty much GUARANTEED World Title match and victory (which it would almost certainly be against a guy with a neck injury). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Okay, after seeing that video, I had to go back and check out Charlotte/Natalya and I was very pleasantly surprised. Dat chain wrestling! That spot at the end where they're trading figure four "reversals", however, was ill-conceived and probably would have short-circuited the match if they had not ended it as soon as they did. Also, the tone of the ending and the video linked above seems a bit weird to me - Charlotte says that she's "genetically superior" to Natalya, disrespects her throughout the match, but then they hug at the end and Charlotte gets an inspirational video? Maybe I'm just missing some of the subtlety to the storyline by starting off cold with the Takeover match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 They very, very much have actually. They buried the hatchet completely after Reid died. No more grumpy old men or "babyfacing" each other in person. They were very pally at NXT Arrival too. Awesome, just awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Dave is reporting that Bryan is losing feeling in his hands even more since the surgery. He thinks despite that Bryan will compete at the PPV in order to not lose his spot. The feud with Lesnar is still planned for Summerslam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Maybe it's me, but it seems these "minor neck surgeries" end up causing worse problems than they intend to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I think it's pretty clear the company is getting annoyed with him. And not in a meta trolling way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 more stuff from WON Flair has gone through the medical tests and if he passed he is scheduled to return as a full time TV character. Either the Raw GM or managing Miz (managing Dolph was turned down) despite the Wyatts recent push they are not scheduled to win the tag titles. Usos are scheduled to hold onto them until the Ascension is called up Cesaro Lesnar is scheduled for post Summerslam Sting is still negotiating with the company Tough Enough was slated to start filming in July but that may be delayed because they have not found the full cast yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Dave is reporting that Bryan is losing feeling in his hands even more since the surgery. He thinks despite that Bryan will compete at the PPV in order to not lose his spot. The feud with Lesnar is still planned for Summerslam Oh man, Bryan. Just take the time off, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 The Bryan deal is scary. I'd rather see him in the midcard for the rest of his tenure than come back early to protect his spot and suffer the kind of injury Edge narrowly avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I love how they basically shoot pressuring him to come back early from a severe neck injury. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 The Bryan deal is scary. I'd rather see him in the midcard for the rest of his tenure than come back early to protect his spot and suffer the kind of injury Edge narrowly avoided. If he goes back to doing the headbutt and the dropkick, then he's a frigging moron, no matter how they're pushing him. You're Brian fucking Danielson. You're one of the best wrestlers in the world. You've watched a shit ton of tape and wrestled everyone from KENTA to Kamala. You can figure out how to work a little smarter, to sub in some moves that aren't going to cripple you over time, and to probably be even MORE over because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 That Saturday Morning Slam match with Tyson Kidd(?) was great, and I'm sure he'd stay over working that way. I don't know if he'd want to work that safe, or be pressured into the more dangerous stuff, which is certainly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Genuine question; where are people getting it from that WWE are annoyed at Bryan? That wasn't indicated in the Observer at all. Regarding the Shield, I'm not as mad about it as some but I don't have high hopes either. I'm in "lets see how it plays out" mode which is, well, is never a great sign. On a more positive note Wyatts vs Goldust and Kofi from Main Event was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 The larger issue is the historically prevalent "out of sight, out of mind" paranoia every top star has encountered while injured in the WWE. It's shortened a lot of careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Was just about to post that lol. I didn't see the match, but one thing I am very curious about is if Ric and Bret buried their animosities any. I hope so, Ric needs as much emotional support from his peers at this point in his life. My understanding is that they patched things up a while back and are kinda working the animosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 The Bryan deal is scary. I'd rather see him in the midcard for the rest of his tenure than come back early to protect his spot and suffer the kind of injury Edge narrowly avoided. If he goes back to doing the headbutt and the dropkick, then he's a frigging moron, no matter how they're pushing him. You're Brian fucking Danielson. You're one of the best wrestlers in the world. You've watched a shit ton of tape and wrestled everyone from KENTA to Kamala. You can figure out how to work a little smarter, to sub in some moves that aren't going to cripple you over time, and to probably be even MORE over because of it. Yeah, and I've been saying this for a while when it comes to his work. I cringe when he does the suicide dive spots and etc. I remember one time on RAW I got so angry at how stupid he was being with that shit, it was infuriatingly dumb. I can't claim that those spots don't get him over, but I've been sick of seeing it for a while. Every once in a while, fine, but he does the shit in every match. There was a period where he was doing suicide dives into the dasher board barriers like 3-4 times in a row, often violently crashing and burning, plus doing the diving headbutt and all sorts of other nonsense...... Nobody should be surprised by his current situation. And the sad thing is......he's a smarter worker than that. He doesn't need to suicide dive every show. He can mat wrestle. He's a great technician. Yeah that shit pops the crowd and gets you over, but great mat wrestling and strikes get over too, and you're not risking long-term health working that way. I don't know if they kinda look the other way with Bryan, but it was a little surprising he was actually hired in the first place due to his history of concussions on the indys and the eye thing and the shoulder thing and all the injuries he had. And hired at a time where they were really putting everyone through all the tests and being very cautious. And he's had a few concussions since he's been on the WWE roster too..... I'm also kinda pissed at the Usos doing the wild crazy dive spots in every match, multiple times. There's this really weird thing in WWE now where guys are permitted to do all this insane shit dive and bump wise......but they can't bleed? They can't work an old school violent style to get over? It seems so backwards in terms of concern for long term health of the workers. It's something that's been bothering me for a while now and the most frustrating thing about it is that there a lot of smart people in the company who've been around for 30-40 years and should know better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSavage Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'd probably worry about Rollins killing himself before I'd stress over the Usos. Maybe that's just me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'm also kinda pissed at the Usos doing the wild crazy dive spots in every match, multiple times. There's this really weird thing in WWE now where guys are permitted to do all this insane shit dive and bump wise......but they can't bleed? They can't work an old school violent style to get over? It seems so backwards in terms of concern for long term health of the workers. It's something that's been bothering me for a while now and the most frustrating thing about it is that there a lot of smart people in the company who've been around for 30-40 years and should know better They're not going to lose their PG status if Luke Harper cripples himself superplexing Jimmy Uso onto the floor. They might if an uninjured Bray Wyatt blades after John Cena brains him with the ring steps from twenty feet away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Does it really matter if they do? They're not considered valuable TV one way or the other, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 It matters to a lot of their sponsorship deals and especially the deal with Mattel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollinger. Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Tough Enough was slated to start filming in July but that may be delayed because they have not found the full cast yet I can think of three visa situations they're probably waiting to get resolved. I'd say at least Steen for certain. Kind of the perfect way to introduce a dude like him. Doesn't really look like a wrestler, but busts his ass and has charisma out the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Not a lot going on with the 6/5 episode of Superstars: - Paige beats Cameron in an increasingly typical nothing WWE match for Paige. Paige's entire offense consists of a slap and a hair toss but, once she ducks out of the way of a dive, she magically cinches in the scorpion crosslock for the submission win. The level of attention and care for the Divas (ugh) in WWE, inside the ring and out, is like night and day versus the NXT Women's division right now. - Titus O'Neil gets a backstage interview! It's typical cocky heel stuff, but Titus delivers it well enough. - Big E beats Titus O'Neil in a decent little TV match. Ninth or tenth time's a charm for these two, I guess, though it doesn't hurt that they got more than five minutes to work here. Nothing spectacular, but some solid heeling from Titus: begging for a clean break from the corner after a dirty break earlier, lots of chatter and disrespect for Big E throughout. Sensible finish too - Titus tries to go back to his corner-to-corner clothesline/splash spot, which worked twice earlier in the match, but Big E cuts it off with a spear and transitions it into the Big Ending. I really wish WWE would figure out something more substantial for both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Has WWE really had a great top babyface diva on the main roster since Trish left? Mickie seemed to have the fans tolerance and maybe respect but they didn't love her. Candice seemed on the rise but injuries ended that fast and she never regained any momentum. Every other top face has done better as a heel. They've had heels seem to get a bit over, Beth, Michelle, Maryse and lately AJ but every face of the division face has fallen flat. Paige seems to be falling faster than most though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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