DMJ Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I recently read a report that the WWE's most recent show at Madison Square Garden sold 12,000 tickets. That is well under capacity (which I believe is 18k+). Is this typical for a summer show at MSG? If you live in the area, why did you or did you not attend? Is this very bad news, somewhat bad news, or "average" news? Was there another major event, sporting or otherwise, that might have played into the seemingly low attendance? I'm just curious about the relative weight of this type of attendance figure compared to prior years. From what I saw, this was definitely the "A" show, featuring Cena, Orton, Wyatt, and Jericho, as well as, I believe, Flair and Triple H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 The only major sport still going on is baseball, but the Yankees were either away or on the All Star break. The Mets might have been home. Other than that, I don't see any major sports competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I wonder if anyone will tweet Triple H (proud husband and father of 3 girls that he is) a link to the Deadspin story on Floyd Mayweather and ask why he associates with a serial abuser of women. Said link can be found here: http://deadspin.com/the-trouble-with-floyd-mayweather-1605217498 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I recently read a report that the WWE's most recent show at Madison Square Garden sold 12,000 tickets. That is well under capacity (which I believe is 18k+). Is this typical for a summer show at MSG? If you live in the area, why did you or did you not attend? Is this very bad news, somewhat bad news, or "average" news? Was there another major event, sporting or otherwise, that might have played into the seemingly low attendance? I'm just curious about the relative weight of this type of attendance figure compared to prior years. From what I saw, this was definitely the "A" show, featuring Cena, Orton, Wyatt, and Jericho, as well as, I believe, Flair and Triple H. It was a house show with an underwhelming card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 The attendance was considered normal for the venue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 OK, so I was getting some stuff ready for the PPV on Sunday and looked at the matches announced on the WWE website. Is Ambrose vs. Rollins cancelled or still on for Sunday? It is still on the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptCabana Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I don't think I've ever seen it being announced as canceled anywhere, I'm reasonably sure it's still a go. They desperately need that match for the show not to be just a COMPLETE placeholder for SummerSlam. I'd assume they do a basic match with a DQ finish Sunday to lead to a hardcore gimmick match at SSlam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 It is still going on....that was why we had the issues earlier which caused Loss to institute the new policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Daniel Bryan will not be featured on the WM special on NBC. They will show the Rock/Hogan/Austin segment, Taker/Brock and Cena/Wyatt. Wonder if that was NBC's call or WWE's That's bullshit. Bryan winning was the absolute best feel-good moment of the year so far and I doubt anything could top it. jesus christ that is dumb. That show was nothing without Bryan. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Daniel Bryan will not be featured on the WM special on NBC. They will show the Rock/Hogan/Austin segment, Taker/Brock and Cena/Wyatt. Wonder if that was NBC's call or WWE's That's bullshit. Bryan winning was the absolute best feel-good moment of the year so far and I doubt anything could top it. jesus christ that is dumb. That show was nothing without Bryan.Exactly.Maybe they don't want to give that away for free, save that for the DVD release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Daniel Bryan will not be featured on the WM special on NBC. They will show the Rock/Hogan/Austin segment, Taker/Brock and Cena/Wyatt. Wonder if that was NBC's call or WWE'sThat's bullshit. Bryan winning was the absolute best feel-good moment of the year so far and I doubt anything could top it. jesus christ that is dumb. That show was nothing without Bryan.Exactly. Maybe they don't want to give that away for free, save that for the DVD release. They've never left the most important part of the show out of the NBC special. It makes no sense. My guess is they thought they had put enough emphasis on Bryan after the Network special or something like that. Putting his angle on the tv special would have left out not only Cena but also Austin/Rock/Hogan. Still, nobody watches that special so it's not a big deal imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexstar Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Considering it seems like they have no idea if Bryan will ever wrestle again, I understand using the NBC slot to showcase people who are gonna be around in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Is his status really that bad? I mean, we really don't know anything and it's only been like 2 months for a neck injury. I think people are jumping the gun when talking about retirement this soon. If it's November-December and it still doesn't look promising, then I get the "hanging up the boots" talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 It's stemming from the number of surgeries he'll require. One exploratory already, but maybe two more needed. That's a lot for anyone, especially a pro wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 - Flair in MITB at WM22 (Fake): Way above the head - Trish Stratus at Backlash '06 (Real): In front of face - Seth Rollins on Raw (Fake?): Just above the chest Back and to the left, back and to the left... Another fake was Finlay at No Mercy 2007, although WWE blew the swerve themselves by having a close up of Finlay taking a perfectly protected bump on the way down, and also showing him quickly looking around and then feigning unconciousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Oh yeah that was against Rey Jr, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Considering it seems like they have no idea if Bryan will ever wrestle again, I understand using the NBC slot to showcase people who are gonna be around in the future. Yeah, this, surprised by people getting so upset about it. Bryan was the star of WM.....but I'm working under the assumption right now that he may never wrestle again. WWE doesn't know....Bryan doesn't know....but it's going to be a while either way Austin/Rock/Hogan is the biggest casual hook and has to be on the special. Taker/Lesnar was the most talked about/most trending moment of the show and a historic moment. Has to be featured. Cena is Cena and I'm sure NBC demands Cena featured on their specials. Plus Cena and Wyatt are around still. And it's only a 1 hr special. I'd be disappointed if Bryan is ignored completely on it, but I don't have a problem with those being the 3 featured things. If we didn't have this huge uncertainty about Bryan right now it would be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexstar Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The 1 hr run time is a big aspect too - that HHH match and the Main had to be pushing an hour combined. Not sure how'd you cut that stuff up to fit. If they wanted to feature him, maybe they could just recut that "Monster" video to include the title win and give people the full Bryan v. Authority synopsis in one nice video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 If we are going to discuss WM30, let us forever immortalize this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 - Flair in MITB at WM22 (Fake): Way above the head - Trish Stratus at Backlash '06 (Real): In front of face - Seth Rollins on Raw (Fake?): Just above the chest Back and to the left, back and to the left... Another fake was Finlay at No Mercy 2007, although WWE blew the swerve themselves by having a close up of Finlay taking a perfectly protected bump on the way down, and also showing him quickly looking around and then feigning unconciousness. Just for the sake of reference, the "X" sign for Finley was above the head. (And wow, what a spectacular goof-up. I think that one's more on Finlay than the camera crew.) Also, while we're talking about No Mercy 2007, there was a PPV with three Triple H matches on it? And there's still any debate at all to whether he was over-exposed during this time period? EDIT: The "you can pretend to be invincible" line for Goldberg in that Triple H conquest video still stings. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Also, while we're talking about No Mercy 2007, there was a PPV with three Triple H matches on it? And there's still any debate at all to whether he was over-exposed during this time period? To be fair, that was last minute storyline improv. Cena was the champ, in a hot feud with Orton and they were about to have their blowoff match, then legit tore a pec the week before the PPV. The hook for the PPV became "there will be a new champ". Orton was awarded the belt, HHH challenged him on the spot and won the belt in the opening match. HHH then had to face his originally booked opponent, Umaga, which became a WWE title defense. HHH retained. Then McMahon booked him against Orton in a Last Man Standing for the main event (Orton v Cena LMS was the original main), and Orton won the belt It was total ad hoc hotshot booking, but understandable under the circumstances, and it got a lot of people talking pre and post PPV at the time And of course part man part machine Cena was back 3 months later as #30 in the Rumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 The 1 hr run time is a big aspect too - that HHH match and the Main had to be pushing an hour combined. Not sure how'd you cut that stuff up to fit. If they wanted to feature him, maybe they could just recut that "Monster" video to include the title win and give people the full Bryan v. Authority synopsis in one nice video. I know last year they showed the entire Rock-Cena match but don't they usually just mix up the highlights of some of the key matches into music videos like they used to do on Sunday Night Heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherspammer Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 The 1 hr run time is a big aspect too - that HHH match and the Main had to be pushing an hour combined. Not sure how'd you cut that stuff up to fit. If they wanted to feature him, maybe they could just recut that "Monster" video to include the title win and give people the full Bryan v. Authority synopsis in one nice video. I know last year they showed the entire Rock-Cena match but don't they usually just mix up the highlights of some of the key matches into music videos like they used to do on Sunday Night Heat? IIRC, they did that with one of Undertaker's matches, and set it to some Katy Perry song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 They had the entrances to Taker v. HHH set to ET by Katy Perry for 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Tremendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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