anarchistxx Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Don't see why they have to get the title of Lesnar before Wrestlemania. Brock is the top heel. The top heel generally jobs to the top face at Wrestlemania. Go figure. Makes zero sense running Cena vs Reigns now. If Reigns is the guy they want to coronate, it makes 100% sense that he would defeat the biggest monster in the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 There's nothing more WWE than having the reaction to record low Raw ratings be to Bring Back The Olds. Nothing helps the current guys grab that brass ring like bringing in guys from the past so everyone can fawn over the real stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Because you don't want the crowd to completely shit on the crowning moment of the person who beats him because everyone watching knows he's just doing a job on the way out. They should have more closely guarded the details of Brock's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 If he's champ going into Wrestlemania, I wonder if it would be worth it to sign him for one additional month just to put the WM outcome more in doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Also, is it really far fetched to think that John Cena, in front of the Wrestlemania crowd, will be the biggest heel in the company? He's like the top face and top heel at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Tribute to the Troops had Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury selling Hulk Hogan punches and pin ball bumping for him. That's it I've seen it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 So, after TTTT I want to see Bryan vs Rusev way more than Cena vs Rusev or Rock vs Rusev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 So, after TTTT I want to see Bryan vs Rusev way more than Cena vs Rusev or Rock vs Rusev. Who the heck wants to see Rock-Rusev? I only want to see that if it is a 6 minute squash, ala Vader-Inoki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I know I am asking this question about a company that seems to be oblivious to SO many things..... But they have to realize that if Daniel Bryan comes back before Wrestlemania, and they don't go with him, the crowd is going to shit on absolutely anything else they attempt to sell them......right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I know I am asking this question about a company that seems to be oblivious to SO many things..... But they have to realize that if Daniel Bryan comes back before Wrestlemania, and they don't go with him, the crowd is going to shit on absolutely anything else they attempt to sell them......right? I don't know, are we going to through this every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fando Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Not sure if it's the writing or just guys not being guided right or taking bad cues from Foley or HBK but watching Neville's opening promo on NXT... I would love for their to be a moratorium on wrestlers referring to their "performances" and "great matches." At least while on the show. He should be calling what they had a fight at the least. A battle, we went to war etc. No gravity behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 So, after TTTT I want to see Bryan vs Rusev way more than Cena vs Rusev or Rock vs Rusev. Who the heck wants to see Rock-Rusev? I only want to see that if it is a 6 minute squash, ala Vader-Inoki. I do. With Rusev going over & getting revenge for Rock clowning him & Lana in New York. Beating the Rock makes Rusev look better than beating anyone else does. Including Cena or Bryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Is there any basis behind this Rock/ Rusev idea besides fantasy booking based on one throw off RAW bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I thought Rock was booked for movies during Mania. Has that changed now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Is there any basis behind this Rock/ Rusev idea besides fantasy booking based on one throw off RAW bit? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I thought Rock was booked for movies during Mania. Has that changed now? No. Just the usual part timer speculation that comes up every year. See also Undertaker, Austin, Hogan, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 To clarify, I don't think they're doing Rock/Rusev at Mania. I just thought the American Underdog story they were hinting at with Bryan vs Rusev at TTTT was compelling in ways I hadn't quite been expecting. Bryan in that more patriotic role felt very out of place on the show, but at the same time, it added to my enjoyment of the segment. THAT said, I don't think we're seeing Bryan back in a ring anytime soon. The news is a little all over the place there, but my impression is that he's held off on surgery he probably should have had months ago in the hopes that he'd recover without it (be it due to holistic wonkery or mere hope) and that maybe that hasn't been going quite as well as it could have. I could certainly see Rock vs Rusev happening sometime in the next year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I could certainly see Rock vs Rusev happening sometime in the next year or two. No way! Rusev is dead the moment he challenges for the title and loses. He is the new Umaga, etc... Not what I would do, but this is their pattern. Build him up, challenge the champion, and lose. He may get a title shot at SummerSlam with Reigns or something, then slowly move down the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Rusev is way too good to be dead in the water after one loss. Big Show, Mark Henry & Kane are all in the twilight of their careers and WWE is going to need a big intimidating dude to fill that gatekeeper type role. It doesn't hurt that he's pretty damn good and already better than Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Rusev is way too good to be dead in the water after one loss. Big Show, Mark Henry & Kane are all in the twilight of their careers and WWE is going to need a big intimidating dude to fill that gatekeeper type role. It doesn't hurt that he's pretty damn good and already better than Kane. Umaga wasn't dead in the water either, but he certainly was never in a position to face a guy like The Rock after not winning the title. Rusev will be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 If Cena isn't main eventing Mania this year, and WWE is ballsy enough to execute a monster push on Rusev... Why not book Cena vs. Rusev for the United States (or European if they bring it back) title and have Rusev retain via referee stoppage? Basically, Cena refuses to tap or submit to The Accolade because "Cena never gives up", but the idea here is to continue to get the move over as much as Rusev, so Cena passes out in the hold and the ref stops the match.When Rusev's undefeated streak eventually ends, it needs to be to somebody who needs the rub, and not just an incidental loss so they can get the loss out of the way and get the title off Rusev at the same time, in order to transition him to main event feuds. Really, the opportunity exists to continue rebuilding the US title or get the new/old European title over (if it returns), and give somebody a boost. My initial gut instinct would be a face Cesaro.That also lays the seeds for a recurring feud down the line between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 At this point, I'm speculating Seth cashing in at the Rumble, thereby inserting himself into the Cena/Lesnar match and pinning Cena to take the title. I'd like this to have happened at Mania - with Seth cashing in and defeating Roman, but I think that ship has sailed. If Cena defeats Lesnar for the title, then who faces Cena at Mania? Reigns, in a face vs. face match, where Cena doesn't go over? They need to get the title of Brock, but they don't want anybody going over him....Yet. So, therefore, either: - Have to do some kind of screwy angle where the title is vacated, Brock and Cena cover each other, both men shoulders down, etc. - Randomly insert somebody else into the match unannounced at the last minute making it a triple threat (a'la Edge @ Suvivor Series 2008). - Have Rollins cash in during the match (thereby making it triple threat rules), where he pins Cena to take the title. They shouldnt have put the title on him in the first place. What was the point in booking it if we arent going to get another Championship match till january. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 If Cena isn't main eventing Mania this year, and WWE is ballsy enough to execute a monster push on Rusev... Why not book Cena vs. Rusev for the United States (or European if they bring it back) title and have Rusev retain via referee stoppage? Basically, Cena refuses to tap or submit to The Accolade because "Cena never gives up", but the idea here is to continue to get the move over as much as Rusev, so Cena passes out in the hold and the ref stops the match. When Rusev's undefeated streak eventually ends, it needs to be to somebody who needs the rub, and not just an incidental loss so they can get the loss out of the way and get the title off Rusev at the same time, in order to transition him to main event feuds. Really, the opportunity exists to continue rebuilding the US title or get the new/old European title over (if it returns), and give somebody a boost. My initial gut instinct would be a face Cesaro. That also lays the seeds for a recurring feud down the line between the two. I really think Rusev-Cena US Title with Rusev getting a decisive win is a great way to go. Keep Rusev as US Champ and have him start claiming its the most important title leading to him getting a WWE Title match at SummerSlam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 I said before that I only want them to bring the European title back if it's in tandem with the US title, and Rusev just has them both. Maybe you do a match with Jericho (as a former champion) where Rusev goes over to make it official. And then... he pursues my ultimate gimmick idea: a guy who has just decided to assemble his own version of the J-Crown. Even if you're building him towards a World title match, the idea of him squashing legends to claim their titles is awesome to me as just pure cheap heat, and nobody can deny the glorious image of Rusev carrying around every spare retired title belt that they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Survivor Series did 103,000 buys. People must have been interested in the Authority stip and the Sting rumors. Pretty shitty news for the Network though I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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