pol Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Word from Dave is that the plan now is for a three way at Mania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 This is really making me take pause in actually buying tickets. Another 3-way sounds like a really bad thing to do at this point. The only thing that would make me go is the ability to see Brock/Bryan live but having Reigns anywhere near it would make me watch it from the couch instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 This is really making me take pause in actually buying tickets. Another 3-way sounds like a really bad thing to do at this point. The only thing that would make me go is the ability to see Brock/Bryan live but having Reigns anywhere near it would make me watch it from the couch instead. Â It does sound like it, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's a good idea. Basically, Brock doesn't have to lose, neither Bryan nor Reigns are in need of the rub or deserving of the rub respectively that comes with being the one to end Brock's undefeated reign of terror. I still think Reigns is winning the match, probably by pinning Bryan and if isn't via a heel turn, then Rollins is probably leaving Mania as champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Like I said on Twitter this is all appeasement to quiet the Bryan fans while still having Reigns going over Brock to get to their endgame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 With the crowd to come. tt's way better to have Bryan not in that match than to have him in the match and lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Didn't hear what Dave said but he is insinuating on twitter that Bryan being added is not set in stone. At least that is what I think he's doing. Saying its "complicated" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So, two years in a row the company rejects Bryan and the crowd tells them what they want and he is added in a three-way at Mania. How fucking stupid is this compnay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 At this point it's a mistake to put Bryan in the main event. What they should do is turn Reigns and Brock respectively, and move Bryan over to Rusev, with Rusev beating Cena clean and decisively at Fast Lane. Of course than the problem becomes what to do with Cena, but of all the parties in question he's the one that least needs a hot feud or opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The answer to Cena in that case is to team him with Sting vs HHH/Show, which is a super match the casuals would go for. Â Sting is the god damn skeleton key this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Cena vs Dolph or Dean or Luke Harper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 If reports of Vince"changing his mind" and putting Bryan into a triple threat with Brock and Roman are true ... Is there any chance this was all some weird twisted work for VKM to prove he does listen to the fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Really, what it means is that they're going to have this problem from now on until they blatantly go against what the fans want in the face of this for long enough to teach the fans, once again, that they're not in control. Â My gut says that they're making the monster work and Vince just doesn't get that there's no appeasement anymore. Â I don't know whether I want to make a "terrorists win" analogy or a Chamberlain reference. I'll just leave it for people to decide on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Once you've established the precedent that fans revolting can force you to change the direction of your booking, thinking that token half measures will appease them is sheer lunacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Like I said on Twitter this is all appeasement to quiet the Bryan fans while still having Reigns going over Brock to get to their endgame  I kinda see the logic of putting Bryan in the title match so fans can stop bitching, that way they can have a build up for Reigns without a very vocal part of the crowd completely shitting on it. BUT, making the main event a triple threat will not stop the boos once Reigns wins at WM so it's still kinda pointless. That hardcore crowd will be hostile to anything that ends up with Roman winning the belt.  There's not much to gain from making it a Triple Threat, fans will still bitch online because "it's obvious Reigns is winning anyway" and TV crowds will still give Roman mixed reactions (depending on where they are taping the show) regardless of Bryan being involved in the title match or not.   If they want to put Roman over, just make it a singles match and put him over DB at Fast Lane.  If they really changed plans and want Bryan to win the belt again, make it a singles match as it will be a better match, a more powerful moment and you can play with Reigns character after losing his Rumble title shot at FL.  If they reached and agreement with Brock and want him to keep the belt, make it a singles match and build from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Once you've established the precedent that fans revolting can force you to change the direction of your booking, thinking that token half measures will appease them is sheer lunacy. this is a ludicrous statement. This whole business for decades has been predicated on the idea that booking is directly influenced by fan response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So, two years in a row the company rejects Bryan and the crowd tells them what they want and he is added in a three-way at Mania. How fucking stupid is this compnay? A shade smarter than the people that keep giving them money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Â So, two years in a row the company rejects Bryan and the crowd tells them what they want and he is added in a three-way at Mania. How fucking stupid is this compnay? A shade smarter than the people that keep giving them money. Â Too bad it's a lot less money then they have got in the past. Don't try to delude yourself into thinking this company is doing good things, because they are profitable. Â They have a great business model and a loyal fanbase. The loyal fanbase just happens to be a lot lower than the fanbase they have had in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. David Rubio Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 At this point it's a mistake to put Bryan in the main event. What they should do is turn Reigns and Brock respectively, and move Bryan over to Rusev, with Rusev beating Cena clean and decisively at Fast Lane. Of course than the problem becomes what to do with Cena, but of all the parties in question he's the one that least needs a hot feud or opponent. I know quite a few people who's first live wrestling show will be Wrestlemania and no doubt that John Cena is the person they all want to see. The women, specifically, only really know the wrestlers from Total Divas and view John as THE superstar. I think a lot people who buy a ticket or purchase the show, hardcores notwithstanding, will want to see him in a big time match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So Vince Sr worrying about fans rioting at MSG at a Pedro loss was appeasement and lunacy? Vince seems a bit damned if he dies, damned if he don't here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The difference, very much, is that the traditional sheet fan has gone from a minority, to a vocal minority, to a vocal minority who can strongly influence a crowd, in part due to the product being forced to aim towards a more niche product and the big shows like the Rumble and Mania being bought up by a lot of people willing to spend cash and travel as the real diehards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapshot Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'm done making sense of this company, and Vince's booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 You know it's funny because I remember about a year ago making a similar point only to he told by various respected members of this board that Kayfabe was never really a thing and that fans haven't really changed. Kris Z was one of them. Remember that thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'm not sure my position has changed wildly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The problem is that Vince was so stupid that he didn't want to go with Bryan after what happened last year and had to cave again. Everybody knew Bryan was the right choice in the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 My guess is that they want to put Bryan and Reigns out there next to each other for several weeks in order to test whether fans REALLY want Bryan instead of Reigns. Which is honestly not the worst idea. Take a longer sample of fan reactions and see what you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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