Coffey Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I don't think it's hyperbole to say WWE creative has never been worse Signed. This is downright embarrassing at this point. I have no idea what they're doing. The 1-year anniversary announcement of the WWE Network was how RAW went off the air...hyping shit that you can watch at any time, whenever you want, at your leisure, on the Network... Do they even know how their own Network works? They also, on their App that they push the shit out of, confirmed Brock Lesnar to be on the show. Only for him to not be on the show. WWE are making dying days of WCW level mistakes at this point, in my mind. Better reform D-X again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Lol sending out Bryan and Heyman out there to make sure Reigns doesn't get booed. This company is rather sickening sometimes Heyman's promo was pure gold though. That was money, as they said in the gold old days. But yeah, the booking of Daniel Bryan is just pathetic at this point. But I guess mission accomplished, since he's not nearly as over as he used to be (yet still more over than about anyone else in the company at this point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapshot Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'd be happy for Bryan to simply work NXT at this point. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strand Peanut Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Reverse invasion angle anyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Reverse invasion angle anyone ? That's called a retreat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strand Peanut Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 But, no one will say "yes" if I sell it like that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I wonder if it's ever crossed their mind to make Bryan into Reign's cornerman at Mania? It's such a bad idea that I could see them at least thinking about it. Their logic being that Bryan will give Reigns his approval and he can siphon off the Yes! chants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 from the SD taping Bryan looks to be involved in the IC title program for Mania. LOL this company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Scramble match at Mania? Did that gimmick ever get passed that one PPV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I don't think it's hyperbole to say WWE creative has never been worse Signed. This is downright embarrassing at this point. I have no idea what they're doing. The 1-year anniversary announcement of the WWE Network was how RAW went off the air...hyping shit that you can watch at any time, whenever you want, at your leisure, on the Network... Do they even know how their own Network works? They also, on their App that they push the shit out of, confirmed Brock Lesnar to be on the show. Only for him to not be on the show. WWE are making dying days of WCW level mistakes at this point, in my mind. Better reform D-X again! The Lesnar thing was puzzling as I received that on my phone as well. What interests me about your post is the WCW mistakes thing. WWE is the only game in town, but I am sure if "Insert Name of Other Promotion" was kicking ass left-and-right, some of the bigger mistakes would have been more glaring. What are the top 10 WCW 2000 moves current WWE is doing? Taker losing at Mania doesn't count in my book and little shit like Paige not being able to wrestle for 30 minutes doesn't count either. I am talking about 10 things that would make WCW 2000 look like early 90's AJPW. Post 2010. Off-the-top-of-my-head...I cannot think of anything. I can think of a ton of stupid things and things that I didn't/don't agree with, but nothing that immediately smacks me in the face as making WCW 2000 look like The Second Coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 A ladder match would make the most sense with the stolen belt gimmick, which is what Rob McCarron suggested on his Monday Night Raw report for f4wonline.com. Really there are no good options for Bryan, as he's the odd man out this year. Better being inserted into a multi-man match that might be given time than being shoe-horned into an extra match that they don't have time for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I kind of foresee this weird scenario where Reigns is the champion but Cena is US champ and Bryan is IC champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Which would actually be tremendous if it leads to those titles mattering. Whoever then beats those guys would be immensely elevated. The titles are likewise elevated by being held by true stars. Bryan is so over that done right he could be the Nakamura who validates the IC titleholder as a close #2 or #1A champ. It's a little odd to have all three your top three babyfaces holding the top three titles, but it could be a lot of fun and open up a lot of fresh matches. While I'm sure some hardcore Bryan fans would resent it, the visual of Cena, Bryan and Reigns meeting in the ring to hoist three newly won titles is a pretty redemptive finale to a shaky WM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Which would actually be tremendous if it leads to those titles mattering. Whoever then beats those guys would be immensely elevated. The titles are likewise elevated by being held by true stars. Bryan is so over that done right he could be the Nakamura who validates the IC titleholder as a close #2 or #1A champ. It's a little odd to have all three your top three babyfaces holding the top three titles, but it could be a lot of fun and open up a lot of fresh matches. While I'm sure some hardcore Bryan fans would resent it, the visual of Cena, Bryan and Reigns meeting in the ring to hoist three newly won titles is a pretty redemptive finale to a shaky WM. If this is the direction I wholeheartedly support it and it's something I've advocated the company do with the IC and US belts for YEARS. If it's a multi-person ladder match for the IC title @ Mania with over guys like Ziggler, Ambrose & Barrett and a returning Sheamus that's the best possible spot he's going to get at this point. If he wins it's a cool moment and instantly elevates the title to more important status than it's had in forever. He can cut a promo about how the IC title used to be the title that the best wrestlers wanted, and he's the best wrestler in the WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 also, he's never held the IC title, so this would make him a modern grand slam champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strand Peanut Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Which is more important.. the title for Bryan ? or the angles and matches ? Is the title only important because of the angles and matches that come with it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I'd be fine with an IC title run for Bryan as long as he isn't trading non-title wins with Barrett, Ambrose, etc. every week. Actually, just stick him in a title unification program with Cena for the US title that'll keep them both away from Reigns while he runs through Authority guys until the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 This is what I was talking about on Sunday night during the reaction show....Bryan needed to be phased down into this scene with solid workers and get the hell away from Big Show & Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 What would the WWE powers-that-be have done if Bryan walked in a few hours before Fast Lane started, dug his heels in, and said he'll walk out before he'll job to Reigns? Bryan sounds like the complete opposite of a person who would do something like that, but the way some of the powers-that-be at WWE, including Vince himself, talk about how they wish guys would "step up," I wonder if it might not have been the smart move long term. Not wanting to have a torpedoed main event during the free WWE Network month, the powers-that-be cave and put Bryan over Reigns. Reigns is pissed, but Bryan pitches it like this: If Bryan beats Brock at Mania, Reigns is set up for a nice run with Bryan after Mania using the "you swooped in and stole my title shot" angle. If Brock destroys Bryan, Reigns is still in good position to finally get his title shot at Brock at the next PPV. After initially being furious, Vince settles down in the following weeks and gains respect for Bryan finally "stepping up." As a gesture of goodwill, Bryan goes to a steak dinner w/ Vince and agrees to vote for the republican presidential candidate in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 What would the WWE powers-that-be have done if Bryan walked in a few hours before Fast Lane started, dug his heels in, and said he'll walk out before he'll job to Reigns? Bryan sounds like the complete opposite of a person who would do something like that, but the way some of the powers-that-be at WWE, including Vince himself, talk about how they wish guys would "step up," I wonder if it might not have been the smart move long term. Not wanting to have a torpedoed main event during the free WWE Network month, the powers-that-be cave and put Bryan over Reigns. Reigns is pissed, but Bryan pitches it like this: If Bryan beats Brock at Mania, Reigns is set up for a nice run with Bryan after Mania using the "you swooped in and stole my title shot" angle. If Brock destroys Bryan, Reigns is still in good position to finally get his title shot at Brock at the next PPV. After initially being furious, Vince settles down in the following weeks and gains respect for Bryan finally "stepping up." As a gesture of goodwill, Bryan goes to a steak dinner w/ Vince and agrees to vote for the republican presidential candidate in 2016. honestly i've had thoughts like this too. Bryan's humility is endearing, but I also find myself wishing he'd realize his value and stand up for himself in this situation. I mean they are actively limiting his ability to make money in the future and he's a fool if he thinks taking one for the team right now is going to somehow pay off later. WWE behind the scenes has always seemed like such a prison culture to me. People only respect strength in that environment. I mean look at Brock...he's the most demanding star they have and they bend over backwards to accommodate him. Granted he has more leverage than anyone, but Bryan has his own leverage and is kind of dumb for not using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Yeah, but now Vince owes him one. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pol Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Bryan seems like the kind of person who probably doesn't sweat the potential loss of a few 100k a year when he's already making a ton of money anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Bryan seems like the kind of person who probably doesn't sweat the potential loss of a few 100k a year when he's already making a ton of money anyway. plus i question whether he relishes being the top guy after his taste of it last year your character gets ruined bit by bit since WWF/E rarely ever books their ace as anything besides Smiling Happy-Go-Lucky Babyface, and the live crowds gradually turn on you because of that. that was absolutely happening to bryan with the kane feud, and i wonder if part of him isn't happier having more freedom in the "upper-midcarder who can credibly main event at any time" slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 if the IC title match is just first to pinfall or elimination Bryan has to win right? I mean if it's ladder I guess it doesn't matter because it's not a "real" job. someone at DVDVR pointed something out rather astutely about Bryan. Two of the three people he beat last year at mania are in higher profile matches this year while he's moved WAY down the card. Yeah Vinces owes him one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 but I doubt Vince feels that way. I'll bet he thinks Bryan was lucky to get that push last year and that he should just be happy to be an upper midcarder because of his size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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