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6 hours ago, joeg said:

Heads up, my firewall detected some sort of virus or malware on cagematch, dvdr, and sherdog for anybody here who frequents those sites.  

On cagematch, I got some sort of SSL certificate error (to be honest, I did not check in detail what, I just closed the tab, when I retried a couple of hours later, the error was gone), other sites did not show any issues.

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11 minutes ago, Flyin' Brian said:

Just watching Royal Rumble 2018 on the network. Final four was Cena, Reigns, Balor, and Nakamura. The crowd chanting ‘you both suck’ when Cena and Reigns faced off was hilarious. Crowd wanted Nakamura to win. 

It's amazing to see a fan base that cannot make it any more clear they were tired of the same old shit and wanted to cheer new stars, and a company that thought so little of said fan base that they think throwing them an occasional bone while continuing to serve up the same old shit was an effective strategy. 

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Yeah its crazy. I think the biggest problem with the booking is that their is no long term planning. I was just talking with a buddy about this today. They used to start building towards the main event of the major PPVs months to years in advance. The past 5 years everything has been fly by the seat of their pants. In that environment there's no getting anybody over or listening to the crowd to see who the crowd is responding to and making plans accordingly. Everything is just a knee jerk last minute reaction. Rumor on reddit/twitter is that they didn't even have a finish or a winner for the Royal Rumble as of three days ago. Wouldn't surprise me if they have go with an established star this year, wouldn't surprise me if they hot shot somebody who is ice old. 

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12 hours ago, Dav'oh said:

Isn't it quicker to type "lie", than search for and select a passive-aggressive emoji?
Also, there's a difference between "mistaken" and "lying". I don't consider Dave Meltzer to be a liar.

He's amid an angle but yeah. Just one of those Pro Wrestling things.

 

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Something I was thinking about while working today.  I have no interest in watching WrestleMania (really haven't in many years) but I do have a tradition of watching some kind of wrestling on the PPV nights especially on WrestleMania weekend.  I thought about putting together a mixtape of sorts by making a WrestleMania-like card with stars who are in WWE at the moment but using matches from the past and doesn't have to necessarily have to be from WWE.  For example:

With Daniel Bryan, I've been tossing around his matches against Roderick Strong (ROH), Kofi Kingston (WWE) or Triple H (WWE).  With AJ Styles, I could really thought the 3-way from TNA Unbreakable 2005 which also included Samoa Joe.  With Rey Mysterio and Ricochet, I would choose their match from Lucha Underground.

While making the list, I saw that the matches were almost a bit too "epic" heavy, so I'm trying to think of more fun matches or a spotfest match or so.

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16 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said:

Hopefully she's been able to jettison whatever toxic beliefs she held.

Doubtful. Being gay or trans doesn't magically mean someone isn't a radical Republican anymore. Just look at Caitlin Jenner. 

With that said, I wish Gabbi all the best.

Of course reaction on wrestling sites has been the typical ignorant and illiterate drivel you tend to see outside this board.

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No idea where to put this so I guess it goes in this thread. I just finished reading Magnetic Mountain by Stephen Kotkin, a book about the creating of the city of Magnitogorsk in the Soviet Union in the 1930's. They basically built the city from scratch to build a steel mill and mining operation as part of early Soviet hyperindustrialization, and the book is about how the average person lived and participated in that society. If you're into this kind of reading, I highly recommend it.

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As for the circus, it had a regular troupe and was visited by traveling groups, but performances of so-called French wrestling (scripted wrestling) were more likely to draw large audiences. One newspaper satire published in 1936 ruminated over the question, “Where to go in one’s spare time? To a film? A drama? A lecture on Abyssinia?” The answer came quickly: “to the circus to watch French wrestling, and argue if it’s real or not.”148 The paper made light of such facts but at the same time implicitly recognized that workers’ cooperation in the programs of cultural transformation had a limit. What to the proponents of kulturnost no doubt appeared as vulgar entertainment, however, was allowed to flourish.

A similar combination that did produce something of a clash was tried at the circus, whose performances could perhaps be made edifying but did not fit very easily into a socialist mold. The craze over French wrestling had been allowed to overshadow the circus’s original program—so much so that one correspondent complained in the city newspaper that for the regular act, even on weekends there were no queues to get in.153 Responding to this and other criticisms leveled in the press, the circus director, K. Chervotkin, advised that for the 1936–37 winter season there would be music during intermissions and a new dance hall, as well as an expanded cloak room, a café, kiosks selling flowers, an area set aside for chess, checkers, and billiards, plus “a really big program.”154 At the same time, there were also attempts to tie the expanded circus program to socialist construction and plan fulfillment. The newspaper remained silent on the results. John Scott wrote, however, that such efforts “tended to be ludicrous.”155 Nor were circus acts considered an entirely appropriate venue for the display of icons of the country’s leaders.

In the notes section at the end of book: 28 March 1936. During related events, such as fat-man wrestling, the circus was also said to be “full, indeed more than full.” MR, 18 February 1936. The circus had a capacity of 2,451 people. Stalinskaia stroika, p. 44

 

Unfortunately that's the extent of the wrestling references, and all the notes lead to Soviet newspapers of the time which I certainly can't access or read. 

So that's tremendously interesting to me - in the mid-1930's, there was a French wrestling troupe experienced and connected enough to travel the USSR and be sent to an extremely remote city (though nationally important), and draw packed houses. And of course it speaks to the somehow universal appeal of pro wrestling, when in contexts as varied as then and now it can still be popular.

 

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On 2/2/2021 at 2:42 PM, Mattsdmf said:

Something I was thinking about while working today.  I have no interest in watching WrestleMania (really haven't in many years) but I do have a tradition of watching some kind of wrestling on the PPV nights especially on WrestleMania weekend.  I thought about putting together a mixtape of sorts by making a WrestleMania-like card with stars who are in WWE at the moment but using matches from the past and doesn't have to necessarily have to be from WWE.  For example:

With Daniel Bryan, I've been tossing around his matches against Roderick Strong (ROH), Kofi Kingston (WWE) or Triple H (WWE).  With AJ Styles, I could really thought the 3-way from TNA Unbreakable 2005 which also included Samoa Joe.  With Rey Mysterio and Ricochet, I would choose their match from Lucha Underground.

While making the list, I saw that the matches were almost a bit too "epic" heavy, so I'm trying to think of more fun matches or a spotfest match or so.

Kevin Owens is a good pick for fun/spotfest palate cleansers, especially if you focus on his PWG work from 2010-2013. His run as PWG World champ during that period was filled with highly entertaining, but not technically great, brawls and bombfests. Love his tag w/ Super Dragon vs. the Young Bucks, love the title defenses against Willie Mack and Brian Cage (the latter featuring a legitimate psychological reason for biting as a primary attack strategy), and any time he's been paired off with Generico is, of course, worth every second of your time.

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