SmartMark15 Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Tetsujin said: I'm surprised how much love Okada/Omega IV have on this website, to be honest. To me it was one of the worst big matches I've ever seen. Am I alone on that? And, just to be clear, I'm a huge fan of their 2017 trilogy. From what I observed on the website, this 4th match was the most universally praised of their matches here outside of the 3rd. I saw enough people on here saying they didn't like the original trilogy and were surprised by the 4th one and its quality. Not to invalidate your opinion, of course, this is just what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Gargano/Almas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaeo_ Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 I don't know about "worst big match" but I didn't really like Okada-Omega IV either on first watch. I don't have any pointed criticisms of the work but I just didn't connect with it then. I remember liking the draw. I thought the way NJ dealt with Omega/Ibushi was too hokey so that might've soured me on the whole thing by the time Dominion happened. I plan to revisit it at some point but that may take a few years. On 11/15/2018 at 9:48 AM, joeg said: Toxin vs FlyStar mask match +1 this match was a banger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguakun Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 I like Okada-Omega (NJPW, 6/9). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Also Mustache Mountain vs Undisputed Era the first one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 hours ago, joeg said: Also Mustache Mountain vs Undisputed Era the first one That was a great one but I think I preferred the rematch at Takeover: Brooklyn 4. Thought the submission spot went on too long in the first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Here's our ongoing list, still a bunch more stuff I want to watch. More Japan, more CWF, more lucha, more Drew Gulak and Revival, more indies. Nice to see others still love Gargano/Almas 1/27 as much as I do. https://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2018/01/2018-moty-master-list.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciej Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 My running list (pretty loosely ordered outside of the top few) is in the signature below, but in addition to the Gargano/Almas, Darby/WALTER, and G1 Final matches already mentioned, my top tier includes the Ladder and Baszler/Moon matches from Takeover New Orleans, and the first big Park/Volador/Flyer vs. Los Ingobernables trios match from 5/25. That trios match just delivered on the danger of Park vs. Rush so much more than I expected a trios match at Arena Mexico to be able to, and more, I think, than the subsequent singles match did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrzfn Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 8:28 PM, Tetsujin said: I'm surprised how much love Okada/Omega IV have on this website, to be honest. To me it was one of the worst big matches I've ever seen. Am I alone on that? And, just to be clear, I'm a huge fan of their 2017 trilogy. I liked it so I couldn't say it was a really bad big match, but I wouldn't have it in my top 100 matches of the year personally. But I'm not really into the New Japan big match style so that wasn't unexpected for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 My top 5: Almas/Gargano (WWE NXT TakeOver: Philadelphia) Gargano/Ciampa (WWE NXT TakeOver: New Orleans) WALTER/Thatcher (PROGRESS Chapter 62) Ciampa/Gargano (WWE NXT TakeOver: Chicago) Riddle/Ospreay (WWN SuperShow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 I haven't made a MOTY list in years, let's give it a crack. No order but these are the matches I remember going apeshit for. Almas vs. Gargano - Takeover Philly Women's Royal Rumble Asuka vs. Nia Jax - Elimination Chamber Women's Elimination Chamber PCO vs. WALTER - Janela's Spring Break Clusterfuck - Janela's Spring Break Ladder Match - Takeover NOLA Ember vs. Shayna - Takeover NOLA Gargano vs. Ciampa - Takeover NOLA Charlotte Flair vs. Asuka - WM Ronda/Angle vs. Hunter/Steph - WM Dream vs. Ricochet - Takeover Chicago Gargano vs. Ciampa - Takeover Chicago Nia Jax vs. Ronda Rousey - MITB Shayna vs. Kairi Sane - Takeover Brooklyn IV AJ vs. Joe - Summerslam Buddy Murphy vs. Cedric Alexander - Super Show Down Shayna vs. Kairi Sane - Evolution Becky vs. Charlotte LMS - Evolution Ronda vs. Charlotte - Survivor Series Fuck if I can remember anything from TV. 2013 Stace is so mad at me right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 I only watch WWE/NXT (and old stuff) and will post my annual Top 10 Network Matches in December, but I did want to jump in and ask: "PWO ain't got no love for Daniel Bryan vs. The Miz at SummerSlam 2018?" I don't know. I really, really liked that match. Its not my number one MOTY, but I think it stood out most because it wasn't a borderline spotfest, false finish-loaded "epic" but rather an excellent match between two strong characters with plenty of history. Will definitely make my Top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted November 24, 2018 Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 16 hours ago, DMJ said: I only watch WWE/NXT (and old stuff) and will post my annual Top 10 Network Matches in December, but I did want to jump in and ask: "PWO ain't got no love for Daniel Bryan vs. The Miz at SummerSlam 2018?" I don't know. I really, really liked that match. Its not my number one MOTY, but I think it stood out most because it wasn't a borderline spotfest, false finish-loaded "epic" but rather an excellent match between two strong characters with plenty of history. Will definitely make my Top 10. Not quite a MOTYC for me but definitely one of the best MR matches this year. Definitely felt like more of an old-school, blood feud match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Almas vs Gargano - Takeover Philly Nomura vs Abe - BJW Feb 2018 Nomura vs Suzuki - BJW 6/20/18 Togo vs Sekimoto - BJW April 2018 Suzuki vs Sekimoto - Ryogokutan 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Almas/Gargano still feels pretty untouchable to me. It's been top of my list all year and hasn't come close to moving. Special mention to Fred Yehi vs Cain Justice from the first Action Wrestling show. Just a beautifully worked match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richeyedwards Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 I would now add yoshiken Vs Akiyama and Sekimoto from the rwtl into 10th place, knocking la park Vs rush off the list. Akiyama is still really outstanding and has been in quite a few matches this year the match Vs marufuji being the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El McKell Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 10:36 AM, Jimmy Redman said: Clusterfuck - Janela's Spring Break Nia Jax vs. Ronda Rousey - MITB What the? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 I remember thinking, up until the Alexa Bliss interference, that Nia/Rousey was very good, pretty hard hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkix Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Jmare007 said: Togo vs Sekimoto - BJW April 2018 Whoa, I didn't know this match existed. I saw the Nomura/Togo match from earlier in the year, which was great. I need to check this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Globally, this had to have been the best year in the last 15 to 20 years for match quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB8 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 I watched that Rousey/Nia match the other day and thought it was a pretty awesome monster v underdog match with an incredible babyface performance from Rousey, particularly given that it was only her second match ever. I haven't watched much this year, but if I came up with a top 10 that would be in it. I still think the Rousey tag from Wrestlemania would be my #1 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 hours ago, superkix said: Whoa, I didn't know this match existed. I saw the Nomura/Togo match from earlier in the year, which was great. I need to check this out. Not sure you'll love it as much as I did but check your PM for the link. Here's what I wrote about it https://forums.prowrestlingonly.com/topic/47573-2018-04-22-bjw-dick-togo-vs-daisuke-sekimoto/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 14 hours ago, El McKell said: What the? What what the? The Clusterfuck is just something I massively enjoyed. Sure it was 2am in New Orleans and I hadn't slept in a week but I just loved it, all the randos coming out and I am a GIGANTIC mark for the Invisible Man, so all that nonsense popped me huge and yeah I just had a ball. That and PCO/WALTER made me super happy I made the trek out to the show even though I was half dead and running on whatever fuels the zombies. I am inordinately happy that I was actually in the crowd to (not) see the Invisible Man win a battle royal. Ronda vs. Nia, besides being 100% without question the best 'literally the first singles match I have ever had in my entire career' anyone has ever had in wrestling history, was fucking awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenese Sarwieh Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 12 hours ago, superkix said: Whoa, I didn't know this match existed. I saw the Nomura/Togo match from earlier in the year, which was great. I need to check this out. Never knew either, I have to watch this and Nomura/Togo asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El McKell Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Jimmy Redman said: What what the? The Clusterfuck is just something I massively enjoyed. Sure it was 2am in New Orleans and I hadn't slept in a week but I just loved it, all the randos coming out and I am a GIGANTIC mark for the Invisible Man, so all that nonsense popped me huge and yeah I just had a ball. That and PCO/WALTER made me super happy I made the trek out to the show even though I was half dead and running on whatever fuels the zombies. I am inordinately happy that I was actually in the crowd to (not) see the Invisible Man win a battle royal. Ronda vs. Nia, besides being 100% without question the best 'literally the first singles match I have ever had in my entire career' anyone has ever had in wrestling history, was fucking awesome. I can see getting more out of The Clusterfuck if you were in the building watching at home I felt it went way too long and the shenanigans got pretty old by the end. Ronda vs Nia was excellent for a first singles match and yeah I can't think of a better one. Doesn't mean I thought it was a great match, to me that MITB wasn't a special show, there was more than one match on it just as good or better than this so just struck me as a very unexpected thing to come up in a MOTY thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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