El-P Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 I was thinking about listening to some of this, I had listened to his interviews with Chavo and Kia Stevens (Awesome Kong) back then during the G.L.O.W. days. I miss G.L.O.W. Never got the end of the story. Fuck you Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Hats 4.0 Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 Ahh, they even mentioned the Chavo talk in one of the clips, good catch. It's worth listening to all, but if you want to be selective, the MJF (in character) and Eddie (because of course) chats are the only true must-listens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 I had hit send on it but I guess it didn’t go through about the Marin podcasts. Really liked them. Max dropped the full kayfabe thing that he always keeps up, basically. Nothing groundbreaking but entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 What's with all these rumours on Wrestling Twitter about the Elite possibly not-resigning and going over to WWE? Any actual basis to such speculation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 That's the first I hear of this but I guess what does or doesn't happen with CM Punk this spring will tell us how factual this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 "Wrestling Twitter" is 99,99% bullshit (well, Twitter is 99,99% bullshit). Why even bother ? They are all under contract until January next year. Who knows what's happening until then. Of course there's always a possibility of anyone switching companies. They are still good friends with Cody too. Of course they could jump. Or not jump. (my best guess is random NPC making shit up because of CM Punk's latest cryptic Instagram stuff, relayed by clickbait sites) In other news, ROH "TV" begins March 2, one year after the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 I can’t see Kenny ever going to WWE. I know he was interested in one time, but he’s middling on the mic, has a ton of mileage on his body, and he won’t get the creative freedom he thrives on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 At this point, is anyone switching companies really a bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I didn’t get home from work in time to see the beginning of Dynamite- did the live crowd give a good reception to Jeff Jarrett after his father passed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I think some people with not enough to do with their free time are listening to Dave making multiple comment about Tony "needing to make a decision" about Punk in the sense it wasn't the done deal everyone seemed to think that he was gone, and assuming that means the Elite is gonna bolt. As mentioned before, I don't see Kenny ever wanting to go to WWE. I suppose he would get more creative freedom under Hunter than Vince, but I get the impression anything short of "do whatever you want" will make him happy. On the other hand, I could easily see the Bucks doing a "get a stupidly big WWE deal before you call it a career" at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 So apparently per Fightful, Thunder Rosa apologised to Britt and everyone in the women's division to clear things for her comeback. Would be interesting to know more details on this. Did the women demand that an apology be made? Cuz this sets a precedent for what Punk has to do to come back, and I absolutely do not see him making apologies to the locker room, that is just not who he is or has ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I don’t think Punk is coming back. The dude got two major injuries last year, there’s simply no reason to put the machinery of the company behind any story featuring him if you can’t trust that he’s gonna be able to see it out. Also, the fight is a broken fence that can be mended (assuming Tony is smart enough to see Jericho as doing self-aggrandizement in denigrating Punk), but you’ll never get the audience to see him the same way again. WWE could get something out of Punk, nobody over there gives a shit that he trashed the company they do not see as a serious competitor in the first place, but he’ll have Cody Rhodes go away heat with a considerable chunk of the AEW faithful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 13 hours ago, MoS said: So apparently per Fightful, Thunder Rosa apologised to Britt and everyone in the women's division to clear things for her comeback. Would be interesting to know more details on this. Did the women demand that an apology be made? Cuz this sets a precedent for what Punk has to do to come back, and I absolutely do not see him making apologies to the locker room, that is just not who he is or has ever been. Punk is much bigger star than Thunder Rosa. And Pro Wrestling is a star business. The criticisms of Thunder Rosa were valid and well founded. But only reached interpersonal, women's locker room levels. CM Punk jeopardised the company and made Tony look like a fool publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, rovert said: Punk is much bigger star than Thunder Rosa. And Pro Wrestling is a star business. The criticisms of Thunder Rosa were valid and well founded. But only reached interpersonal, women's locker room levels. CM Punk jeopardised the company and made Tony look like a fool publicly. He didn’t “jeopardize the company”. I don’t care what you have heard from any anonymous source or any dirt sheet reporting same; get real. If he *did*, AEW is not long for this world. He made Tony look bad, definitely, but Tony is the guy who marches his people in front of the press without a script and minimal experience in dealing with wrestler egos, not to mention his obviously poor media training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Embrodak said: He didn’t “jeopardize the company”. I don’t care what you have heard from any anonymous source or any dirt sheet reporting same; get real. If he *did*, AEW is not long for this world. He made Tony look bad, definitely, but Tony is the guy who marches his people in front of the press without a script and minimal experience in dealing with wrestler egos, not to mention his obviously poor media training. "AEW is not long for this world." Is this Twitter? Citation needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, rovert said: "AEW is not long for this world." Is this Twitter? Citation needed. You misread me. I said that *if* Punk saying the EVPs suck at managing and that Adam Page is an unaccomplished airhead “jeopardized the company”, then AEW is not long for this world. But AEW is fine, and was fine, so it didn’t. Punk was pissed at a persistent rumor that had been dogging him in the locker room (that Tony seemingly had not addressed in any substantial way), and hurt, and he let’er rip in public. It might have ruined his relationship with the owner and terminally alienated the least interesting camps of the locker room, that remains to be seen, but if the company was any kind of healthy, it was always going to be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Embrodak said: You misread me. I said that *if* Punk saying the EVPs suck at managing and that Adam Page is an unaccomplished airhead “jeopardized the company”, then AEW is not long for this world. But AEW is fine, and was fine, so it didn’t. Punk was pissed at a persistent rumor that had been dogging him in the locker room (that Tony seemingly had not addressed in any substantial way), and hurt, and he let’er rip in public. It might have ruined his relationship with the owner and terminally alienated the least interesting camps of the locker room, that remains to be seen, but if the company was any kind of healthy, it was always going to be fine. Link to the Hangman Page statement (video - it exist) to prove you've ever heard it in context please? The most covered story of the last decade probably and you are still confused and stuck in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 10 hours ago, rovert said: Link to the Hangman Page statement (video - it exist) to prove you've ever heard it in context please? The most covered story of the last decade probably and you are still confused and stuck in September. Again, you misread me. I didn’t say The Elite and Page were the ones that leaked it to the dirtsheets. I don’t trust Meltzer or Sapp a lick, but it’s totally possible that they’re telling the truth that the Elite and Page had nothing to do with their reporting. But it’s entirely possible that they had something to do with the story starting or spreading, encouraged somebody to talk to the dirt sheets about it, or that they failed to stop its spread when they were in a position of authority and/or influence to do so, since it made them look good vis a vis this interloper. This is stuff it’s frankly impossible for anybody not in that locker room to actually know, no matter what they hear from those in it. Punk is actually *in* that locker room, which is something neither of us can actually say, and he had the interpretation of events that he had. Moreover, even if his perception was *totally* invalid, if the Elite camp had absolutely nothing to do with the rumor and were doing their jobs as EVPs in good faith and attempted to squash it when they heard it, misperceptions happen all the time in life. It fucking sucks that this one blew up so publicly, and Punk certainly needs to take ownership of that, but I frankly don’t respect anybody who can’t put that behind them for the good of the company. I’m not religious, but I can recognize that there’s a reason why grace and forgiveness are emphasized in many religions: humans are assholes and hold grudges even when it’s socially corrosive for them to do so. (For what it’s worth, I recognize that Punk is the grudge holdingest dude involved in all this, and that his unwillingness to mend fences and own up to his shitty behavior may be as or more limiting than the Elite or Jericho or whoever.) The only person who I think has a valid reason to want to keep Punk out is Tony Khan, who has an unimpeachable right to decide that he can’t trust Glass Phil to either hold up in the ring or to be given a live mic on live television. But all the “he’s so toxic” bullshit, when we have like ten people on record saying that Punk was incredibly generous with his time and attention - especially with the women’s division and with younger talent like Starks, Hobbes, and Darby - just doesn’t fly with me. It’s just backstage politicking bullshit, a tale as old as time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 There is no way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Yeah there's no way TK or WBD allow that. A world where the Briscoes were not allowed to be on AEW TV until one of them fucking died but where this piece of shit is allowed to be on TV is a world not worth living in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 I'm curious as to how Saraya is inarguably the least safe worker in the company. Who got hurt working her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Yo-Yo's Roomie said: I'm curious as to how Saraya is inarguably the least safe worker in the company. Who got hurt working her? Maybe it's in the sense that she is the one who's not safe. Broken neck and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 After listening to TK in the media scrum about how he books AEW and ROH, it confirmed a lot of what everyone has said about him for a long time. It seems the vast majority of what holds a feud together depends mostly on the wrestlers involved coming up with stuff and TK is mostly concerned about who he pairs up with who (how that might work for ratings/buys) and then letting shit sink or swim, didn't sound like he worries much about the hows and whys of an angle. Considering he's never getting booking help, I'm just gonna wait for cards to be announced before every show to see if I watch or not because expecting compelling TV that goes beyond matches will never happen in AEW (unless some wrestler(s) discovers a way to it by themselves). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 Wardlow's car got broken into and the TNT title got stolen. Maybe AEW needs to give everyone backpacks like Orange Cassidy and make them carry the title around at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 3:52 PM, Jmare007 said: After listening to TK in the media scrum about how he books AEW and ROH, it confirmed a lot of what everyone has said about him for a long time. It seems the vast majority of what holds a feud together depends mostly on the wrestlers involved coming up with stuff and TK is mostly concerned about who he pairs up with who (how that might work for ratings/buys) and then letting shit sink or swim, didn't sound like he worries much about the hows and whys of an angle. Completely not the case. He's very hands on. He's producing matches in the ring on his knees and hands regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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