KawadaSmile Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 It seems it's moving lots of tickets. Slightly above 8k, making it one of (I guess it's THE) best selling events in the city! Hope they can all witness MJF getting his fucking head kicked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknWrestling Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 I'll be there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 I’ve been sour on recent AEW but Danielson going an hour is always essential viewing and I’m half expecting FTR to show back up after the tag match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 I can't remember the last time my interest heading into an AEW PPV was this low, and that's with my all time favorite wrestler in the main event and two matches I expect to be great (Mox/Page and Trios Titles). I'll watch it at some point this week but hardly stoked about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 No wrestling match is worth 60 minutes of someone's time, but I'm confident the world title match will make it clear that MJF is a legitimately great worker and a worthy champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 So, how many title changes are we expecting tomorrow night? I'm going for 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: No wrestling match is worth 60 minutes of someone's time, but I'm confident the world title match will make it clear that MJF is a legitimately great worker and a worthy champion. Bray Wyatt had a 4-4.5 star match with Danielson, matches featuring him are rarely proof of anything about the other guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Embrodak said: Bray Wyatt had a 4-4.5 star match with Danielson, matches featuring him are rarely proof of anything about the other guy. 4.5 stars for any of the Bray/Bryan matches strikes me as extremely generous. Regardless, it's a lot easier to hide someone's limitations in a standard wrestling match or a gimmick brawl. There's nowhere to hide in an Iron Man match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 But it doesn't have to be that way, tho. Like, if you want to have MJF succeeding, wouldn't hiding his weakness be the first thing you do? I remember a match against Jericho that he had in which he was in control and then he just proceeded to to an Asai Moonsault for no reason, something which even JR called out. It seems the booking in this reign is backwards - all his flaws are getting highlighted instead of his strenghts. What I'm saying is that there may be better ways of showing "yeah our World Champ can go in the ring" than a sixty minute ironman match, even if the opponent is Bryan Danielson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 Did dean malenko say something in the promo packages about Danielson competing in 4 iron man/60 minute matches? in aew, or throughout his career? That confused me… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: But it doesn't have to be that way, tho. Like, if you want to have MJF succeeding, wouldn't hiding his weakness be the first thing you do? I remember a match against Jericho that he had in which he was in control and then he just proceeded to to an Asai Moonsault for no reason, something which even JR called out. It seems the booking in this reign is backwards - all his flaws are getting highlighted instead of his strenghts. What I'm saying is that there may be better ways of showing "yeah our World Champ can go in the ring" than a sixty minute ironman match, even if the opponent is Bryan Danielson. MJF's technical wrestling matches with Jungle Boy and Darby Allin were excellent. What are you talking about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 I wasn’t a fan of those matches. Anyone can do that stuff in 2023. He’s much more interesting when he’s doing an abdominal stretch and holding onto the ropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: No wrestling match is worth 60 minutes of someone's time But a three-or-four-hour wrestling PPV is? I've seen that sentiment expressed elsewhere and it strikes me as odd. Like, six ten-minute matches are ok, but one sixty-minute match isn't? It's still an hour of wrestling. "But the winner is predictable". The winner's predictable in every match of a two-hour Dynamite or a one-hour Rampage/Dark/Elevation. People still watch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, NintendoLogic said: There's nowhere to hide in an Iron Man match. There are plenty of places to hide in an Iron Man, as long as they're willing to run up the fall count with countout and DQ shenanigans. Even Rock and HHH were able to have a solid Iron Man match in the middle of the Attitude era by exploring those possibilities. And, given that MJF has already said that he's willing to do anything to win, I've got to imagine they'll dig deep into that playbook. If we're taking over/under numbers on falls, I'm thinking we're looking at over a dozen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt D said: I wasn’t a fan of those matches. Anyone can do that stuff in 2023. He’s much more interesting when he’s doing an abdominal stretch and holding onto the ropes. "Anyone can do that stuff in 2023." Who? Where? When? With links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Matt D said: I wasn’t a fan of those matches. Anyone can do that stuff in 2023. He’s much more interesting when he’s doing an abdominal stretch and holding onto the ropes. I don't need links to get your point . When I saw MJF do the abdominal stretch rope spot, I popped. I'll probably end up getting this show, but right now I'm not so sure. Nothing is grabbing me. I just don't really care about most of the angles. I'm the biggest Joe fan alive and have bought shows just for him. But I don't care about Wardlow getting revenge for his haircut because they bungled the explanation that should have been pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, rovert said: MJF's technical wrestling matches with Jungle Boy and Darby Allin were excellent. What are you talking about it? The best thing about those matches are not even the technical parts, to be very honest. Again, the point is you don't need your top champ to be able to wrestle a sixty minute Ironman match so you can be able to say "yeah he's good!" Sometimes I think him wrestling more often would be enough. He was featured in 9 matches in 2022, two of them being angles (Casino ladder match and against 10 guy) and one being a squash (against Wardlow). Even his 2021 had him working seven singles matches, and one was a squash - most of his year was Pinnacle/Inner Circle heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 If I had to hazard a guess, it seems like they are trying to do like the 80s where you rarely saw the world champ wrestle on TV so when you did it was a special occasion. Of course back then the champ worked 300 days a year on houseshows and AEW doesn't do any (yet). I distinctly remember as a kid seeing Ric Flair team up with Tully and Arn against 3 jobbers on Saturday Night and thinking "wow, the champ in wrestling on TV". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 11 hours ago, The Man in Blak said: There are plenty of places to hide in an Iron Man, as long as they're willing to run up the fall count with countout and DQ shenanigans. Even Rock and HHH were able to have a solid Iron Man match in the middle of the Attitude era by exploring those possibilities. And, given that MJF has already said that he's willing to do anything to win, I've got to imagine they'll dig deep into that playbook. If we're taking over/under numbers on falls, I'm thinking we're looking at over a dozen. Rock and HHH were great workers in 2000, which is why they were able to have an Iron Man match of the caliber they did. If MJF does likewise, he'll show that he is as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 It's a whole promotion based around people who can do the Malenko/Guerrero stuff. It's nice to see MJF as something else and annoying when he does it as well to prove to the fans that he can wrestle, or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 30 minutes ago, Matt D said: It's a whole promotion based around people who can do the Malenko/Guerrero stuff. It's nice to see MJF as something else and annoying when he does it as well to prove to the fans that he can wrestle, or whatever. Idk, I pretty much always at a minimum enjoy MJF’s singles matches, and I usually think they’re quite worthwhile. While we’ve seen a higher-level shortcoming in his creative faculties the last few weeks, I don’t really see any reason to think he can’t find a bunch of entertaining heel stuff to do so it’s not an hour of “THIS IS WRESTLING/FIGHT FOREVER” stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 Danielson had an excellent 60 minute match with Hangman. Page, and MJF is way smarter in ring guy then Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 Just watched Danielson's promo from last Dynamite. He should 100% win the title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknWrestling Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 Although the build hasn't exactly been the greatest, it should be fun and I'm looking forward to being there live. I have no idea where our seats are, but hopefully they're decent. Maybe we'll get another chance parking lot interaction with Jim Ross or get hit by Tony Khan's car and sue him for millions! Stay tuned for notes whenever I have a chance to jot them down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 Bella Twins are backstage at the show per twitter. obviously just likely visiting Bryan so not a huge deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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