goodhelmet Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Top boxers can make millions before stepping into the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Floyd Jr. got a guaranteed 22.5 mill for his fight with Shane Mosley and ended up getting close to 30 mill all together. Mosley ended up getting close to 10 mill and HBO got 78.4 mill in revenue off the fight and a 1.4 PPV buyrate. That's a whole other league than UFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 The thing with boxing is that if it's a fight without Floyd or Manny no one gives a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 oh man with WWE taking a shot at Lesnar tonight Dave probably has smoke coming out of his ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 oh man with WWE taking a shot at Lesnar tonight Dave probably has smoke coming out of his ears What did they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 they showed a clip of the Lesnar suplex on Big Show that broke the ring and Punk pretended not to know who Lesnar was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Todd Martin is probably going to flip in his RAW report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 I thought it was just a joke, with the implication being that everyone knows who Lesnar is. Punk was hilarious tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 I thought it was a joke too but I don't think Dave and company will take it that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 I thought it was just a joke, with the implication being that everyone knows who Lesnar is. Punk was hilarious tonight.Yeah, it was totally meant as a joke. Just like Punk saying he'd never throw a foe in a body of water when that was the highlight of his ECW fued with Chavo. But I'd guess they'll not understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Wouldn't 7 posts about it before Dave even mentions it be overreacting on this board's part? If it turns out that all Dave goes is "And they made a joke about Lesnar" will anyone make 7 more posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Dave is the one who'd I'd think would have realized that it was just a joke. I'm thinking Todd. And here ya go. Next up was an amazing, amazing segment. They played an old clip of the Rock. CM Punk and the Straight Edge Society came out. Punk said that he’s better than the Rock and the announcers had a hearty laugh at this notion. Punk took a shot at the Tooth Fairy and asked if fans miss the Rock. Well, duh. You see, the theme of this segment was “great things about Raw that are gone now.” Seriously. So Punk next brought up how Raw used to be edgy. He brought up DX’s catchphrase, DX invading Nitro and the Steve Austin beer bath of Vince McMahon. He mixed in some newer stuff that didn’t get over nearly as well like HHH destroying Randy Orton’s “home” and John Cena throwing Edge into water. Punk criticized Raw’s poor family values. This was the segue into a rant against Steve Austin. Punk ran down Austin’s character, when all of a sudden Steve Austin’s music played. The crowd went nuts of course. But Austin did not come out. Punk then laughed and pointed out that Steve Austin is gone and wasn’t there on Raw. So, having pointed out Rock is gone, Steve Austin is gone and the show is no longer edgy, what else from the past was there left to bring up? You guessed it! They aired a video clip of Brock Lesnar superplexing Big Show on Smackdown, the ring breaking, and the crowd going crazy. Punk said he didn’t know who the other guy in the ring with Show was. He then made fun of Show for being fat. Having teased Rock, Steve Austin and Brock Lesnar, we finally got the big run-in. Big Show came out. He started bringing up his own worst segments to make fun of himself. He then did an impression. Who was this impression of? Take three guesses, brother. Yes, Big Show did a Hulk Hogan impression on Raw. If fans had started chanting TNA, it would have worked on two levels. Punk responded, “That was boring. You’re not entertaining. And nobody likes you.” I broke out in laughter. That line was seriously the best comedy on Raw in ages. Anyway, Show was saddened by this and a fight broke out. Straight Edge Society left. Punk was great throughout this segment, by the way. So, to recap this segment. They pointed out Rock was great but left WWE to go do movies. They pointed out the show used to be edgy but now it’s PG. They brought up how Steve Austin was great and now is gone. They aired a great clip of UFC’s biggest star. And then they had one of their guys do an impression of a guy who works for TNA. Wow. I mean, this was entertaining as hell. But just, wow. Seriously, does he wear a tinfoil hat? The LAST thing people were thinking was that Rock or Lesnar were going to come out and confront Punk. A Hogan impression isn't a plug for TNA. Does he not get that this was a segment where the most hated heel in WWE is bashing things that are generally remembered fondly to get heat while they're doing a retrospective of "wild moments"? NO ONE, outside of him and a small, small, handful of people could have watched that and be left with "It reminded me of when it was great and they were putting over people who don't work there!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Todd doesn't stand alone. From WOR: DM: To me, the whole segment, when the Big Show came out - no one cared about him! ... BA: He's the guy who's lame enough to actually be here. DM: This is the 900th show and the real stars [Austin and Rock] don't even come back for special shows! BA: They moved on. DM: That made me feel like I needed to move on. BA: [...] CM Punk showed Big Show suplexing Big Show. [..] He added "I don't know who the other guy was" DM: That was quite the knock, wasn't it? BA: They came off sooo lame. DM: They came off so insecure. To be fair, I thought it was meant as a knock as a well. In a "ha ha, only serious" kind of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Wouldn't 7 posts about it before Dave even mentions it be overreacting on this board's part? If it turns out that all Dave goes is "And they made a joke about Lesnar" will anyone make 7 more posts? Why are you here, again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Wouldn't 7 posts about it before Dave even mentions it be overreacting on this board's part? If it turns out that all Dave goes is "And they made a joke about Lesnar" will anyone make 7 more posts? If that ends up being the only reaction, I will happily post seven times in a row that we were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Wouldn't 7 posts about it before Dave even mentions it be overreacting on this board's part? If it turns out that all Dave goes is "And they made a joke about Lesnar" will anyone make 7 more posts? Why are you here, again? To read what all the cool kids are bitching about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Wouldn't 7 posts about it before Dave even mentions it be overreacting on this board's part? If it turns out that all Dave goes is "And they made a joke about Lesnar" will anyone make 7 more posts? If that ends up being the only reaction, I will happily post seven times in a row that we were wrong. What Dan posted is all that happened. One second on an audio show of Dave going that was lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 What Dan posted is all that happened. One second on an audio show of Dave going that was lame. After agreeing with Bryan making his point for him Seriously Beast cop yourself on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Weren't the items from Todd and Bryan & Dave in line with what the earlier posted in the thread jokingly predicted? I would have though Beast would have slinked off again for a few months before running in again. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Fuck, they put that Lesnar/ Big Show moment at the top of greatest Smackdown moments on the SD DVD that they put out last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Weren't the items from Todd and Bryan & Dave in line with what the earlier posted in the thread jokingly predicted? I would have though Beast would have slinked off again for a few months before running in again. John It was, but it was a brief, off-hand comment, so Beast seems to think he can spin it by changing the terms of the argument after the fact. The old "Moving the Goalposts" fallacy - he bets X won't do Y after everyone predicted they would, X does Y, but Beast decides it doesn't count because now X had to have done Y for Z length of time. Not that it's working, but that's Beast for ya. Wouldn't 7 posts about it before Dave even mentions it be overreacting on this board's part? If it turns out that all Dave goes is "And they made a joke about Lesnar" will anyone make 7 more posts? Why are you here, again? To read what all the cool kids are bitching about. And to bitch about the bitching in return, occasionally complaining about the lack of positivity on this board, despite the fact that you contribute little-to-no positive discussion yourself, and spend the bulk of your post bitching. "We accept you, one of us! Gooble Gobble!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 It's important to remember that Beast is dumber than dog shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I can't knock him too much since he works his ass of and is by far the best but Dave's daily updates on the Observer site have been complete shit now for going on a year or more. Either he's saving it for the Newsletter or not much is happening/lack of sources but they've been boring as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 There's quite a bit more in the newsletter, an from all the items people pull out of WO-Live, it looks like the show is a major outlet for his updates as well. There's very little "breaking" in wrestling like there was back in the late 90s and early 00s. There really isn't the need for Updates to drive attention to the product. If something semi major happens, he'll mention the news in an update. And he does live updates of the PPV of wrestling and MMA shows. But most of analysis of it goes to the show and the newsletter. Can't say that's a mistake given where wrestling is at the moment. But it also means that the front page really doesn't do anything to either well represent what Dave does or sell the WON strongly. Again, not really a mistake... John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Speaking about the Punk promo on Raw, one thing Dave, Bryan and Todd missed is Punk, a sanctimonious heel, criticising Raw's poor family values was likely a knock on Linda McMahon's political opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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