UKWildcat Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 If/when the Portland set hits I could change my mind, but I have very little enthusiasm for the Sheepherders and the more I watch the less upset I get about what they became in the WWF. Before they turned into shitty comedy workers they were shitty brawlers. Tellingly the best 'herders match I've seen is against the Fantastics at Clash II and it's pretty much a straight tag and not a barbed wire juicefest. I thought the really telling thing with them was watching how the Commonwealth angle in Southwest played out. There was a short run in there where Luke was on his own, and he's actual a really exciting, violent brawler. And then Butch shows up...and he's not. At all. And they start teaming, and Luke starts working down to Butch's level. Really weird thing to find out about two guys I used to not be able to tell apart at all. As to the topic at hand..."really dislike" is probably too strong a term, but I was always very "meh" towards Bull Nakano. I honestly can't put my finger on why that is, but her work leaves me cold in ways that, say, Aja Kong's doesn't. You have to see the Sheepherders in Memphis. They were at their best there with Johnathan Boyd being really great. But wasn't that a completely different team? It wasn't Luke Williams and Butch Miller, it was Jonathan Boyd and Rip Morgan (and later Bigfoot ... I've seen some listings saying Bigfoot *was* Rip Morgan, but I distinctly remember Boyd saying he was a replacement for Rip. Can anyone get a definitive word on this?) Butch went back to New Zealand for a bit and Boyd stepped in. Boyd and Luke had a great run in Memphis in late 82/early 83 with some great, bloody battles with the Fabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 There's nobody I really can't stand that's not fairly typical. HHH Chyna Sid (particularly for the laziest match I have ever seen at an indy show. The likes of Torrie Wilson are Misawa and Flair combined compared to Sid's efforts that night) Stephanie Other people that annoy me Stevie Ray (as a wrestler) Scott Norton Bob Backlund (I go with Parv mildly on this) The Steiner Brothers (if they are either losing and sulking or abusing opponents) Brody That's about it to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Jeff Jarrett: I've seen some Memphis which was passable, but pretty much everything he ever did in WWF, WCW, or TNA was mind fuckingly excruciating to watch. Especially after becoming The Chosen One and being champion twenty times or whatever it was. I think it was Mike Graham (another case for this thread, but..) who said "Jeff Jarrett broke ten thousand guitars and never drew a dime." His Memphis work is awesome and he could have been one of my favorites of the 1990s if he was stuck in Memphis or Dallas the entire time. After Memphis, I agree with every single thing you said. Jarrett played the church youth pastor at the beginning of SPRING BREAKERS. He played it so perfectly according to my memory of Baptist youth pastors when I was a kid in Dallas that he gets a pass from me. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Oh, and I'm also on board with Johnny's dislike of post Mania III Roddy Piper. As much as I love the guy for his 70s-1987 work (as in top ten all-time for me), I can't stand his later stuff, especially his babyface commentary. Yes Piper came back a shell of himself in terms of Charisma and heat. He seemed to be go on cruise control and came off corny rather than edgy. Would you say that he had a taste of Hollywood and came back bitter that it never worked out for him? I wonder what changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaufman316 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Oh, and I'm also on board with Johnny's dislike of post Mania III Roddy Piper. As much as I love the guy for his 70s-1987 work (as in top ten all-time for me), I can't stand his later stuff, especially his babyface commentary. Yes Piper came back a shell of himself in terms of Charisma and heat. He seemed to be go on cruise control and came off corny rather than edgy. Would you say that he had a taste of Hollywood and came back bitter that it never worked out for him? I wonder what changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaufman316 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Maybe Piper losing his edge was (at least partly) due to being pigeonholed as a face for pretty much his whole career afterwards? I really liked his work with Bret but it was relatively slim pickings otherwise, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 How did I miss this thread until now? I'm going to lay down an unpopular opinion knowing this board, so take it easy on me. I hate blowjob babyface tag teams specifically The Fabs and The Fantastics. The only way they work for me is that I'm rooting for the Midnight Express or whoever to fuck them up. I've always been "meh" about the RnR Express. I liked the Rockers a lot. I liked The Thrillseekers. But in general I have always been a heel fan and I especially hate the beefcake blowjob tag teams I love Sabu. Terry Taylor never did anything for me. I didn't hate him, just found him boring. Same with Mike Rotundo. I like UWF Terry Taylor well enough, and I liked the IRS character.......but yeah, the times I liked them were few and far between I'm a pretty positive person who has respect for just about every pro-wrestler, even if they bore me, so trying to come up with guys I can't stand is tough. I don't care much for a guy like Tanahashi and I'd rather watch a Dino Bravo match from late 80's WWF.......so I'm definitely on my own planet when it comes to these things 3 of my all-time faves are Greg Valentine, Dick Slater and Ronnie Garvin.....so I at least have something in common with the general mindset of this place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victory Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I was binge watching early 90's WCW and I forgot how much I disliked Hayes and Garvin as a team. I can't believe the push they were still getting in 92. They just wanted to dance around and lip sync. At this point wrestling wise in their careers they were done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Having watched a lot of early 94 WWF recently, I've got to go for Mo from Men On A Mission. He's so shit! I mean, it makes sense that they wanted Mabel (young, enormous, agile) and that they wanted him in a tag team to cover his limitations while he improved, but Mo was so poor that Mabel had to be the workhorse of the team. I've seen Mo botching a small package before, and he exudes no star power: he's a squat portly lad with milky punches and zero charisma. Worse still, I watched the 94 Rumble over the weekend...and he's in it for over 20 minutes. Including a bit where all the other men in the Rumble gang up to eliminate Mabel, and Mo just stands watching gormlessly. He's so terrible, I hate him nearly as much as I hate Ziggler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchReedMark Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Sir Mo was in the UKFF Top 50 Wrestlers of all time. A true legend of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Sir Mo was in the UKFF Top 50 Wrestlers of all time. A true legend of the game. This was an ironic list right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchReedMark Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 We let people have their vote. Someone really liked Sir Mo. Duane Gill made an appearance. Great Khali got in there too, but he had super cult status on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Sir Mo was in the UKFF Top 50 Wrestlers of all time. A true legend of the game. Ha, mentioning him as SIR Mo reminds me of his role in Survivor Series 1995, where he runs distraction to stop Taker getting his hands on King Mabel. As punishment, Taker chokeslams him, and Sir Mo rolls to the floor and runs off, totally no-selling the move. I remember thinking that was hilarious at the time. I might re-watch that tonight. Mo was still shit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I have never really liked Evan Bourne/Matt Sydal. He just reminds me too much of every pretty-boy jock I hated in school. Consequently, no amount of athleticism, not teaming with someone has ever made me like him. He is also so spot heavy to me most of the time, so I just don’t dislike his character I rarely care about his matches at all. I always hated Jeff Hardy since day one. I liked Matt for a while because he did all the work in the matches and then Jeff would jump off of something. Even when Jeff got a lot better (and weirder) I couldn’t stand him. He is turn off the TV bad to me. I was completely down on Styles until he went to NJPW last year. I thought he was so repetitive in the ring and more or less had like two good matches that he repeated over and over until they were outright boring. I hate his pele kick because it is overused and more often than not doesn’t look very good. His insistence on calling everyone “fagot” in the ring was not particularly appealing to me. Not that I am super sensitive about being PC in wrestling, but it just seemed unnecessary and boring. He really turned things around though and I quite enjoyed him over the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Have you seen Sydal in ROH recently? Cause his gimmick is now what he really is, a total hippie. He's actually the exact opposite of the whole jock thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jimmy Rave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchReedMark Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Going back to 3 posts ago, how is Matt Sydal a jock? He's tiny! As a former rugby playing school bully, he'd not get in my inner circle when I was 15 being that small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 He'd be too busy smoking weed and banging hot chicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I haven't seen anybody mention Kevin Steen/Owens. I hate him more than I hate Davey Richards. I hate him for all the same reasons that I hate Davey Richards. I don't see how you could enjoy Owens' matches and dislike Richards' matches, they suck for all the same reasons. Masahiro Chono. Not a fan. Everything after the neck injury in 91 kinda sucks. I mean I'm not even that wild about his matches that have been really hyped. Abdullah the Butcher. The only Abby matches I enjoy at all is the feud against the Funks in AJPW. Yoshinari Ogawa. Awful, just awful. Ian Rotten. Have no clue why some people around here hype him. I have a hard time suspending disbelief when the wrestler is this out of shape and unathletic. It becomes even harder when the wrestler tries to work a BattlArts type match. I'd like to see a thread for wrestlers we love but nobody else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I haven't seen Sydal in ROH recently, no. I haven't really seen him aside from the random match in the past 3-4 years. It wouldn't matter. When I did see him he just rubbed me the wrong way. His size isn't the issue. It is that he is all smiles and usually clean cut, more athletic and good looking than anyone has any business being. He reminded me of the jocks that were all manners and happy to be alive in front of authority figures but total dick bags the rest of the time. And even if he wasn't a jock and he was just a super nice guy, fuck him for being so handsome, nice, and athletic/hard working all at once. Isn't that the point, though? Of course the reasons say as much (or more) about me than they do about him. I'm not trying to make an accurate analysis of his persona nor am I really saying anything about his talent. I just don't like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I was going to post that Evan Bourne came across as a sleazy dickbag "player" on Total Divas, but that was actually Justin Gabriel. Can't tell these flippity-floppity guys apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I went to a show last year which had both Gabriel and Sydal on, and now they've both grown a beard and have lank, greasy hair, they look even more similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Yeah I saw Sydal's beard at Wrestlekingdom. Ugh... just makes me dislike Gabriel now too. Add him to my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I haven't seen Sydal in ROH recently, no. I haven't really seen him aside from the random match in the past 3-4 years. It wouldn't matter. When I did see him he just rubbed me the wrong way. His size isn't the issue. It is that he is all smiles and usually clean cut, more athletic and good looking than anyone has any business being. He reminded me of the jocks that were all manners and happy to be alive in front of authority figures but total dick bags the rest of the time. And even if he wasn't a jock and he was just a super nice guy, fuck him for being so handsome, nice, and athletic/hard working all at once. Isn't that the point, though? Of course the reasons say as much (or more) about me than they do about him. I'm not trying to make an accurate analysis of his persona nor am I really saying anything about his talent. I just don't like him. Nobody likes a hater. It's unbecoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Its wrestling. Everyone likes, dislikes, loves, hates, identifies or dis-identifies for random and weird reasons. I don't really hate the guy, except for in the spirit of the thread. I don't actually think "fuck Sydal" in any meaningful way; its fan bullshit. I was just never really drawn to him as a character or his work. Seeing him on a lineup doesn't get me excited about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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